Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason?

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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#41 » by Lalouie » Sun Dec 5, 2021 9:08 pm

Arlo wrote:
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wfiles wrote:Howard, McGee, Drummond, Whiteside was available. It's clear their biggest weakness is the Center position. They will get abused by Ayton, Jokic, Gobert, AD in the playoffs. Are they really going to rely on James Bustman and Kevon Looney?


before the season started gsw was pretty much picked to be in the middle of the pack fighting for a play-in spot

no one expected this season to go wacko for the whole league. so here we are with gsw with a roster that bears no resemblance to a ring team,,,,with a record of a ring team

Three multi ring starters and they bear no resemblance to a ring team?


before the season started everyone thought gsw was a carry over from last year, you remember last year don't you. so yeah based on that everyone figured middle of the pack. you're just looking at their record NOW. you gonna sit there and me this is no surprise to you?????
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#42 » by Papi_swav » Sun Dec 5, 2021 9:09 pm

Because they have Gary Payton II
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#43 » by Warriorfan » Sun Dec 5, 2021 9:30 pm

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Warriorfan wrote:Looney is a solid playoff tested starting C. Green is a the championship tested closing C. Wiseman is a young talented developing C. Kuminga may grow into a young talented C.

C position has been an area of less importance


James Wiseman is Hassan Whiteside 2.0. He should be a solid pro and have a good career, but was a terrible pick at number 2. It could be worse though and he could be the next Hasheem Thabeet. The Warriors love to say how they are light years ahead of everyone yet passed on a star in the making in LaMelo Ball. :lol:


Probably one of the worst takes ive seen lately. Have you watched Wiseman play a single game?

The main concerns people have about Wiseman are 1) Ability to fit into a motion offense 2) His positional defense ability and switchability.

The guy has loads of talent, and if developed right can be a star in this league. Just wait until you see him this year when hes not surrounded by a g-league team.

Warriors need him to be Ayton 2.0 or Javale McGee, but his skillset is that of Chris Bosh/Giannis.


IMO Wiseman is the equivalent of a prep to pro with only 3 college games no pre season and an injury.

Players to compare are the others like Jermaine I Neil etc
Feel free to look up how the warriors have drafted in the lottery over the last 12yrs since Lacob took over Udoh the biggest miss was part of Bogut trade.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#44 » by DaPessimist » Sun Dec 5, 2021 9:43 pm

We have a cheap good Center, his name is Kevon Looney. We just need Wiseman to turn into a cheap good backup Center by the playoffs.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#45 » by MindState » Sun Dec 5, 2021 9:51 pm

DaPessimist wrote:We have a cheap good Center, his name is Kevon Looney. We just need Wiseman to turn into a cheap good backup Center by the playoffs.


I think Wiseman needs to become a starter honestly. I dont think Looney will hold up health wise through a full season as a starter. Hes never done it.

Looney has already been breaking down over the past week, averaging only 45 minutes, 9 points, 15 rebounds and 9 fouls total over the past 3 games.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#46 » by Lockdown504090 » Sun Dec 5, 2021 10:07 pm

MindState wrote:
DaPessimist wrote:We have a cheap good Center, his name is Kevon Looney. We just need Wiseman to turn into a cheap good backup Center by the playoffs.


I think Wiseman needs to become a starter honestly. I dont think Looney will hold up health wise through a full season as a starter. Hes never done it.

Looney has already been breaking down over the past week, averaging only 45 minutes, 9 points, 15 rebounds and 9 fouls total over the past 3 games.

Looney just straight up too little for the west. AD, jokic, ayton, KAT, Gobert, even JV. this isnt like 2016 where centers were just setting screens and running to the rim.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#47 » by TheLand13 » Sun Dec 5, 2021 10:20 pm

MindState wrote:
dkb965 wrote:
Warriorfan wrote:Looney is a solid playoff tested starting C. Green is a the championship tested closing C. Wiseman is a young talented developing C. Kuminga may grow into a young talented C.

C position has been an area of less importance


James Wiseman is Hassan Whiteside 2.0. He should be a solid pro and have a good career, but was a terrible pick at number 2. It could be worse though and he could be the next Hasheem Thabeet. The Warriors love to say how they are light years ahead of everyone yet passed on a star in the making in LaMelo Ball. :lol:


Probably one of the worst takes ive seen lately. Have you watched Wiseman play a single game?

The main concerns people have about Wiseman are 1) Ability to fit into a motion offense 2) His positional defense ability and switchability.

The guy has loads of talent, and if developed right can be a star in this league. Just wait until you see him this year when hes not surrounded by a g-league team.

Warriors need him to be Ayton 2.0 or Javale McGee, but his skillset is that of Chris Bosh/Giannis.


Realistically, the Warriors are just an Andrew Bogut away from being a historically great team again. They need someone who can be that elite rim protecting center who you can rely on the guard the rim until Warriors go small ball.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#48 » by DaPessimist » Sun Dec 5, 2021 10:33 pm

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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#49 » by gabri3l3 » Sun Dec 5, 2021 10:41 pm

DaPessimist wrote:Make it happen, Bob.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y42brb8r


awful trade. tj warren is injured, jeremy lamb rides the pine in indy, wiggins is playing his best basketball of his career next to steph and you're also sending away two young players for a marginal upgrade at center
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#50 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Dec 5, 2021 10:50 pm

draftnightsuit wrote:It’s not like Wiseman was trash when he played. He had an OK rookie season.

Wait we talking about the same Wiseman? Haha
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#51 » by Arlo » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:59 am

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before the season started gsw was pretty much picked to be in the middle of the pack fighting for a play-in spot

no one expected this season to go wacko for the whole league. so here we are with gsw with a roster that bears no resemblance to a ring team,,,,with a record of a ring team

Three multi ring starters and they bear no resemblance to a ring team?


before the season started everyone thought gsw was a carry over from last year, you remember last year don't you. so yeah based on that everyone figured middle of the pack. you're just looking at their record NOW. you gonna sit there and me this is no surprise to you?????

Well...I didn't ask everyone...

All I'm saying is when 3/5 starters have multiple rings, is it really that surprising to see them do well? Yeah...I'm gonna sit here and say that...
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#52 » by jehosafats » Mon Dec 6, 2021 5:31 am

miamiheat319 wrote:Looney has worked out pretty well for them in the past

Yeah, when he was coming off the bench. Between Bogut, McGee, West, Zaza, etc., Looney could do a quick double dutch without gumming up the works. That's not to say he's bad for them. Just that now, he's all they got. The Heatles proved you have to play at a very high level to win this small.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#53 » by DroseReturnChi » Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:05 am

DaPessimist wrote:We have a cheap good Center, his name is Kevon Looney. We just need Wiseman to turn into a cheap good backup Center by the playoffs.


if the warriors had same thought as you they would have picked ball instead of wiseman. wiseman was drafted to be a starter not a backup. him, kuminga cant play 10mpg gleague level for now. is kerr really going to let them play 30 minutes together and cost a ring?
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#54 » by michaelm » Mon Dec 6, 2021 8:34 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
DaPessimist wrote:We have a cheap good Center, his name is Kevon Looney. We just need Wiseman to turn into a cheap good backup Center by the playoffs.


if the warriors had same thought as you they would have picked ball instead of wiseman. wiseman was drafted to be a starter not a backup. him, kuminga cant play 10mpg gleague level for now. is kerr really going to let them play 30 minutes together and cost a ring?

So you think Looney is the main detriment to GSW winning another ring ?. Rather at odds with most of your other posts which in any way concern GSW or GSW players other than Looney.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#55 » by hauntedcomputer » Mon Dec 6, 2021 1:09 pm

Nobody on the planet thought Lamelo would be this good except Lavar. He was a gamble that paid off by landing in the right place and was far from a consensus top pick. Wiseman made plenty of sense at the time because height always has upside. As for what GSW should do, sometimes less is more. I'd rather roll with what I have instead of trying to trade for a rental that's leaking oil and getting four miles to the gallon.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#56 » by turnmeup88 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 1:15 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:they think wiseman is that guy but they dont know he is a bad player. kuminga is a 10mpg player too.



Gotta love opinions on a guy who has 3 college games and 39 nba games...
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#57 » by Lalouie » Mon Dec 6, 2021 1:40 pm

Arlo wrote:
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Arlo wrote:Three multi ring starters and they bear no resemblance to a ring team?


before the season started everyone thought gsw was a carry over from last year, you remember last year don't you. so yeah based on that everyone figured middle of the pack. you're just looking at their record NOW. you gonna sit there and me this is no surprise to you?????

Well...I didn't ask everyone...

All I'm saying is when 3/5 starters have multiple rings, is it really that surprising to see them do well? Yeah...I'm gonna sit here and say that...


no expectations for gsw this season was perfectly logical.
the roster is nearly the same as last year's with the exception of a couple of rookies, and last year they were 9th - THAT'S WHY. and nobody expected the west to implode.

this season is easily about the deterioration at the top more than the improvement at the bottom

you can talk about the "intangibles" iggy brings but he's not putting up numbers
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#58 » by yesh » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:32 pm

W's make a lot of centres unplayable, especially in the playoffs. Gobert will be run off the floor against GS, for example. Have a feeling they would make Jokic do a lot of things he doesn't normally and wouldn't want to do, either. Ayton is a bit different, but I'd fancy Dray being able to minimise him offensively over a series (although this one remains to be seen...).
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#59 » by Warriorfan » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:45 pm

Lalouie wrote:
Arlo wrote:
Lalouie wrote:
before the season started everyone thought gsw was a carry over from last year, you remember last year don't you. so yeah based on that everyone figured middle of the pack. you're just looking at their record NOW. you gonna sit there and me this is no surprise to you?????

Well...I didn't ask everyone...

All I'm saying is when 3/5 starters have multiple rings, is it really that surprising to see them do well? Yeah...I'm gonna sit here and say that...


no expectations for gsw this season was perfectly logical.
the roster is nearly the same as last year's with the exception of a couple of rookies, and last year they were 9th - THAT'S WHY. and nobody expected the west to implode.

this season is easily about the deterioration at the top more than the improvement at the bottom

you can talk about the "intangibles" iggy brings but he's not putting up numbers


Warriors finished 3 games out of 5th spot.
They added 3 vets Iggy, Belly, and Porter. Healthy Klay and Wiseman hopefully. 2 lottery picks and Poole and GP2 improvement.
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Re: Why did the Warriors not pick up a cheap good Center in the offseason? 

Post#60 » by HabsAndDubs » Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:25 pm

Who’s spot do you give up to acquire a veteran C? Especially considering that the team does believe that Wiseman will be a contributing player at C, whose roster spot, especially considering how well the bench has played so far, would you give up to sign a Howard or Drummond or McGee? That’s ignoring the fact that GSW are still statistically the best team in the league at this point with a few players coming back from injury.

Last year they gave up spots for trusted vets and those trusted vets turned out to be Wanamaker and Bazemore. I think they learned their lesson.

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