LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight

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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#41 » by meekrab » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:14 am

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I mean lets be honest there's like maybe 3 PG in the league who are gonna make that pass to LeBum in the corner work considering the whole defense is in the way. :roll: Sure, he's getting paid 40 million, he "should" be one of them, but his salary isn't his fault, NBA GMs are stupid.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#42 » by art_tatum » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:38 am

donnieme wrote:
art_tatum wrote:So over the Westbrook scapegoating. Ive never been high on him but this is the same Westbrook, with a even better efg, than the one last season who led the wizards along with Beal to the playoffs.

He is what he is. So the real question is why can't LeBron and AD can't contribute enough to winning more than Beal?

You mean besides the fact they already won a title without? What kind of game is that? Almost presupposes their comparable sample size of impact starts only after Westbrook joins.

Edit It's also horrifying for Lakers to note but I don't think there is a star who has exceeded or even matched their playoff round high after joining westbrook. Now Lakers are almost guaranteed this fate. Once he joins a team perennial underachieving is added to the menu.


Their chip 2 yes ago doesn't have much meaning to how they are playing now.
So the question is why aren't LeBron and AD like 2019-2020 LeBron and AD? Beal made the playoffs with westy.

Fans have to face that answer since Westbrook is almost the same player as last season.

Imo for LeBron it's age- his impact to winning has deminished. AD has no excuse. Maybe injury but he is supposed to be in his prime but his play and efficiency is down this season.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#43 » by LesGrossman » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:46 am

Most of all, i'm impressed the word "spectacular" is in his vocabulary.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#44 » by SpreeS » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:11 am

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donnieme wrote:
art_tatum wrote:So over the Westbrook scapegoating. Ive never been high on him but this is the same Westbrook, with a even better efg, than the one last season who led the wizards along with Beal to the playoffs.

He is what he is. So the real question is why can't LeBron and AD can't contribute enough to winning more than Beal?

You mean besides the fact they already won a title without? What kind of game is that? Almost presupposes their comparable sample size of impact starts only after Westbrook joins.

Edit It's also horrifying for Lakers to note but I don't think there is a star who has exceeded or even matched their playoff round high after joining westbrook. Now Lakers are almost guaranteed this fate. Once he joins a team perennial underachieving is added to the menu.


Their chip 2 yes ago doesn't have much meaning to how they are playing now.
So the question is why aren't LeBron and AD like 2019-2020 LeBron and AD? Beal made the playoffs with westy.

Fans have to face that answer since Westbrook is almost the same player as last season.

Imo for LeBron it's age- his impact to winning has deminished. AD has no excuse. Maybe injury but he is supposed to be in his prime but his play and efficiency is down this season.


Its more about team structure than anything else. Lebron/Davis/Westbrook/THT TOP min players are shooting 0.288 together from 3P line. If we add Jordan/Howard/Rondo into the mix , we get non spacing units.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#45 » by johanliebert » Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:27 pm

You have one of the best playmakers in NBA history on one end and some neck beard named max wildstein but this board thinks the latter is the expert.

Personally these basketball philosophers need to stop speaking like they’ve played organized basketball on any level. What happened to analyzing games what we have here is two cherry picked clips just to be critical.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#46 » by johanliebert » Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:32 pm

poultryfan wrote:Savvy move not publicly throwing his teammate under the bus.

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He’s done it before. In those cases the narrative would be Lebron can’t take any responsibility for the loss!

All he did here was tell the truth.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#47 » by PistolPeteJR » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:07 pm

righterwriter wrote:
Masai4PM wrote:And if he said the opposite the masses would call for his head being a bad teammate, there is no winning.


He could've said "The result of any outcome is more than just one player's performance. We win as a team and lose as a team. We'll come together next game and try to do better."

In other words, give a non-answer.

That's a lot better than lying about Westbrook playing good, which just makes Lebron look stupid and/or disingenuous.


You should get into PR.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#48 » by The411 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:26 pm

johanliebert wrote:You have one of the best playmakers in NBA history on one end and some neck beard named max wildstein but this board thinks the latter is the expert.

Personally these basketball philosophers need to stop speaking like they’ve played organized basketball on any level. What happened to analyzing games what we have here is two cherry picked clips just to be critical.


Nice appeal to authority fallacy. Basketball isn’t some mystical language that only experts can decipher it’s fairly simple to understand and you do not need to be a NBA veteran to understand.

It’s not a big secret that Russ has problematic decision making on both ends of the court.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#49 » by Lockdown504090 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:30 pm

meekrab wrote:
SUPERVILLAIN wrote:
Read on Twitter
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I mean lets be honest there's like maybe 3 PG in the league who are gonna make that pass to LeBum in the corner work considering the whole defense is in the way. :roll: Sure, he's getting paid 40 million, he "should" be one of them, but his salary isn't his fault, NBA GMs are stupid.

this isnt a lapse in attention he was going for the steal on the dumpoff pass to brown. The issue is that its a bad gamble because the most coveted shot on this possession would be mills in the corner, which is a higher ppp shot than a contested bruce brown floater. Russ made a dumb play, but certainly didnt lose track of mills. This is bad defense, just adding some context to how these things happen. he has been shooting poorly so he wanted to try to get a steal and make a big play, this gamble was based of off emotion and a lack of confidence in his ability to score without transition. that dunk attempt comes from the same place. him trying to make up for his poor play. westbrook is a snowball of either good or bad plays leading to worse ones because he has to prove himself
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#50 » by trickshot » Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:32 pm

art_tatum wrote:
donnieme wrote:
art_tatum wrote:So over the Westbrook scapegoating. Ive never been high on him but this is the same Westbrook, with a even better efg, than the one last season who led the wizards along with Beal to the playoffs.

He is what he is. So the real question is why can't LeBron and AD can't contribute enough to winning more than Beal?

You mean besides the fact they already won a title without? What kind of game is that? Almost presupposes their comparable sample size of impact starts only after Westbrook joins.

Edit It's also horrifying for Lakers to note but I don't think there is a star who has exceeded or even matched their playoff round high after joining westbrook. Now Lakers are almost guaranteed this fate. Once he joins a team perennial underachieving is added to the menu.


Their chip 2 yes ago doesn't have much meaning to how they are playing now.
So the question is why aren't LeBron and AD like 2019-2020 LeBron and AD? Beal made the playoffs with westy.

Fans have to face that answer since Westbrook is almost the same player as last season.

Imo for LeBron it's age- his impact to winning has deminished. AD has no excuse. Maybe injury but he is supposed to be in his prime but his play and efficiency is down this season.

Hey, you want to hear something funny? Wizards were also 0-5 in december 2020.

Granted the season started in december but it's also not a like for like thing anyway. We're just juxtaposing different textures of sh*t
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#51 » by homecourtloss » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:08 pm

The4thHorseman wrote:LeBron talks good on a teammate, but gets ridiculed and accused of lying.

If he said that Russ had a bad game or needs to play better, then it's him throwing his teammate under the bus.

Just another example of a no win situation with LeBron.


This thread would be 30 pages long if he trashed Westbrook, similar to the cigar thread or the Taco Tuesday LeBron threads. LeBron could build a school for underprivileged kids to get a chance at college and still get trashed for it. Actually, I’m sure that’s already happened.
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#52 » by JN61 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:38 pm

Since midway of November Westbrook have had 8/20 games with bellow 45% FG, 4 times bellow 40%. Lebron himself is 4/16 on bellow 45%. Durant 4/13. Harden 7/13. Curry 10/18. Young 8/15. Derozan 5/14. Tatum 11/20.

You just sometimes have worse shooting nights. Lebron is right for once. Westbrook had rough shooting night so he replaced his production with playmaking. Could you have had passed some of looks he did? I don't think he should have passed them. He just missed some easy layups so it was just rough shooting night with good shot selection. He has 3rd highest EFG% of his career so he is having just fine scoring year for way smaller volume than usually (lowest since his sophomore season).
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#53 » by Ballerhogger » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:39 pm

I mean kinda not wrong it is it lol. But his passes somtimes are bit wtf !!! Somehow we are 7th spot
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Re: LeBron: I think Westbrook's decision-making was SPECTACULAR tonight 

Post#54 » by PistolPeteJR » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:53 pm

JN61 wrote:Since midway of November Westbrook have had 8/20 games with bellow 45% FG, 4 times bellow 40%. Lebron himself is 4/16 on bellow 45%. Durant 4/13. Harden 7/13. Curry 10/18. Young 8/15. Derozan 5/14. Tatum 11/20.

You just sometimes have worse shooting nights. Lebron is right for once. Westbrook had rough shooting night so he replaced his production with playmaking. Could you have had passed some of looks he did? I don't think he should have passed them. He just missed some easy layups so it was just rough shooting night with good shot selection. He has 3rd highest EFG% of his career so he is having just fine scoring year for way smaller volume than usually (lowest since his sophomore season).


Even your compliments toward the guy have to contain some form of negative criticism LOL.

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