Bam is soft

[cupcakesnake]

He really reminds of an Amar’e Stoudemire-level player. Like that tier of star

You're either way overrating Bam or way underrating Amar'e.

Peak Amar'e put up 30/11 in the playoffs, including 37/10 on 55% shooting against one of the GOAT defenders at the PF/C position.

Amar'e was extremely dependent on Nash offensively while being a complete liability on defense. Bam can create for himself off the dribble while DPOY level defense. Also can be used to run offense as point occasionally. They aren't comparable at all.

Amar'e was a bigger scoring threat than Bam. He put a ton of pressure on the rim, and the combination of his first step and pull up jumper was an unfair offensive weapon.

But I agree that Bam is better at everything else. Better rebounder, ball handler, backline defender, switch defender etc.

[miamiballer]

Mvp no but perennial all star, all defense and I’m running of defensive player of year, yes

He should have been an all star but isn’t only because of injuries this year

[Eagle4]

Stats aren't exactly super eye-popping but his impact on winning has been tremendous (a lot on the defensive end) and now being far more aggressive. He's looking like a lesser Giannis out there.

His ability to switch on guards and recover is truly phenomenal. Spo described it perfectly, Bam plays like he's in the matrix. One minute he's on the perimeter sticking a guard and within a second he's able to recover and still protect the rim (just showcased this tonight blocking Vuc).

https://youtube.com/shorts/aUJnzOS4kxU?feature=share

He's already a perennial DPOY candidate but hes finally realized that he's bigger, stronger, quicker and more athletic than 98% and is now dominating offensively as of late.
24/25 with a possibility of adding 3pt range is a scary player.

Im not positive you know the meaning of "Perennial" my guy

Lasting or existing for a long time. Bam age 24 and frontrunner for current DPOY.

Does it need to be broken down further or do you not know how to read properly?
..and not your guy pal.

[Cubbies2120]

He really reminds of an Amar’e Stoudemire-level player. Like that tier of star

You're either way overrating Bam or way underrating Amar'e.

Peak Amar'e put up 30/11 in the playoffs, including 37/10 on 55% shooting against one of the GOAT defenders at the PF/C position.

Amar'e was extremely dependent on Nash offensively while being a complete liability on defense. Bam can create for himself off the dribble while DPOY level defense. Also can be used to run offense as point occasionally. They aren't comparable at all.

Interesting that you say that.

Bam scored 60% of his points this year as assisted points: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/adebaba01/shooting/2022

Peak Amar'e who was extremely reliant on Nash scored 56% of his points in the playoffs assisted (59% in regular season): https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stoudam01/shooting/2005

[CreekShow]

Stats aren't exactly super eye-popping but his impact on winning has been tremendous (a lot on the defensive end) and now being far more aggressive. He's looking like a lesser Giannis out there.

His ability to switch on guards and recover is truly phenomenal. Spo described it perfectly, Bam plays like he's in the matrix. One minute he's on the perimeter sticking a guard and within a second he's able to recover and still protect the rim (just showcased this tonight blocking Vuc).

https://youtube.com/shorts/aUJnzOS4kxU?feature=share

He's already a perennial DPOY candidate but hes finally realized that he's bigger, stronger, quicker and more athletic than 98% and is now dominating offensively as of late.
24/25 with a possibility of adding 3pt range is a scary player.

Im not positive you know the meaning of "Perennial" my guy

Lasting or existing for a long time. Bam age 24 and frontrunner for current DPOY.

Does it need to be broken down further or do you not know how to read properly?
..and not your guy pal.

Okay so youre just delusional. Understood. That makes MUCH more sense now!

[Cubbies2120]

Im not positive you know the meaning of "Perennial" my guy

Lasting or existing for a long time. Bam age 24 and frontrunner for current DPOY.

Does it need to be broken down further or do you not know how to read properly?
..and not your guy pal.

Okay so youre just delusional. Understood. That makes MUCH more sense now!

Frontrunner for DPOY?

Here are the current odds for DPOY:
1. Gobert (-160) - You gotta bet $160 to win $100
2. Giannis (+425) - Bet $100 to win $425
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8. Bam (+4000) - Bet $100 to win $4,000


Not sure how much of a frontrunner that is.

[celticfan42487]

It's impossible to be an MVP guy unless you're the person the team puts the ball in their hands to create the offense. Either as the PG in Jokic or as the designated flopper for a play in Embiid.

If you don't have that role you'll never be the MVP.

That said Bam is still extremely valuable, Bam today is what OKC thought they were getting from Serge Ibaka when they picked him over James Harden all those years ago. And if they were right in that assumption people wouldn't know if it was the right or wrong call instead of an all time F up.

[Madhouse]

Stats aren't exactly super eye-popping but his impact on winning has been tremendous (a lot on the defensive end) and now being far more aggressive. He's looking like a lesser Giannis out there.

His ability to switch on guards and recover is truly phenomenal. Spo described it perfectly, Bam plays like he's in the matrix. One minute he's on the perimeter sticking a guard and within a second he's able to recover and still protect the rim (just showcased this tonight blocking Vuc).

https://youtube.com/shorts/aUJnzOS4kxU?feature=share

He's already a perennial DPOY candidate but hes finally realized that he's bigger, stronger, quicker and more athletic than 98% and is now dominating offensively as of late.
24/25 with a possibility of adding 3pt range is a scary player.

No, you are right he is a DPOY caliber player but not MVP.

26th in overall Raptor
31st in EPM

He probably isn't even All NBA worthy.

[Madhouse]

Stats aren't exactly super eye-popping but his impact on winning has been tremendous (a lot on the defensive end) and now being far more aggressive. He's looking like a lesser Giannis out there.

His ability to switch on guards and recover is truly phenomenal. Spo described it perfectly, Bam plays like he's in the matrix. One minute he's on the perimeter sticking a guard and within a second he's able to recover and still protect the rim (just showcased this tonight blocking Vuc).

https://youtube.com/shorts/aUJnzOS4kxU?feature=share

He's already a perennial DPOY candidate but hes finally realized that he's bigger, stronger, quicker and more athletic than 98% and is now dominating offensively as of late.
24/25 with a possibility of adding 3pt range is a scary player.

Im not positive you know the meaning of "Perennial" my guy

Lasting or existing for a long time. Bam age 24 and frontrunner for current DPOY.

Does it need to be broken down further or do you not know how to read properly?
..and not your guy pal.

The frontrunner for DPOY is clearly Gobert.

what world do you live in?

[Paz]

Only knock on Bam is that he misses a ton of games every year. Some don’t like the fact that he doesn’t shoot 3’s, and is more of an old school center on offense, but defensively he’s out guarding the perimeter, often on the opposing team’s best player.

?? He's only missed games recently due to a surgery he needed.

Regular Season:
17-18: GP: 69 (nice)
18-19: GP: 82
19-20: GP 72
20-21: GP: 64
21-22: GP: 37 (Surgery)

[yosemiteben]

[HardenToSixers]

Only knock on Bam is that he misses a ton of games every year. Some don’t like the fact that he doesn’t shoot 3’s, and is more of an old school center on offense, but defensively he’s out guarding the perimeter, often on the opposing team’s best player.

He's more of a PF with his face-up game in the triple threat position. Actually, PF is his natural position, he just plays out of the position on the Heat.

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why would you want him to play next to a center who likely won't shoot well given he doesn't space the floor well either? doesn't seem very logical

[Kobe187]

Lol no where near MVP level but he’s developing into a star, rounding out his game nicely instead of being just a 1-dimensional elite defender.

[shangrila]

Why can't players just have a really good run and be great without "MVP" being thrown around? MVP is a three horse race right now. All it does is make people discredit Bam. Just make a thread saying how awesome he is.

All good, people already discredit the Heat, there's not much a Bam MVP thread can do to change the average NBA fan's perspective on anything Heat related.

Exhibit 19 for every single team being victimised on the General board, apparently.

[heatwillbeback]

I think he would be a legitimate DPOY if he didn’t miss time earlier. And yea, I know Gobert exists and is excellent.

[LewisnotMiller]

Stats aren't exactly super eye-popping but his impact on winning has been tremendous (a lot on the defensive end) and now being far more aggressive. He's looking like a lesser Giannis out there.

His ability to switch on guards and recover is truly phenomenal. Spo described it perfectly, Bam plays like he's in the matrix. One minute he's on the perimeter sticking a guard and within a second he's able to recover and still protect the rim (just showcased this tonight blocking Vuc).

https://youtube.com/shorts/aUJnzOS4kxU?feature=share

He's already a perennial DPOY candidate but hes finally realized that he's bigger, stronger, quicker and more athletic than 98% and is now dominating offensively as of late.
24/25 with a possibility of adding 3pt range is a scary player.

If he's looking like a 'lesser Giannis' I'm not sure how he gets in the MVP conversation over 'actual Giannis'.

But, he's a stud. One of my favourite players.
Just not an MVP.

[Aventador]

nope.

[northoakland510]

Naw bro

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[BBallFreak]

Just no. He's not MVP caliber. He's great. Can't he just be great?

[Colbinii]

Just no. He's not MVP caliber. He's great. Can't he just be great?

He can be great--hella great.

It's like the NBA community looks down on players who are top 20, 30, 50 ect instead of simply appreciating the players for what they are.