Post-Mortem: 2021-22 San Antonio Spurs

Blazing_royale · Post #41 » by **Blazing_royale** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:41 pm

Bornstellar wrote:
Blazing_royale wrote:Only guys i'm digging on this roster is Murry and Keldon, the rest can be traded.

I would definitely trade Keldon before either of Vassell, Primo, or Poeltl

What's the read on Primo? I've heard a lot of mix reviews about him being a reach. I haven't watched him much.

Bornstellar · Post #42 » by **Bornstellar** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:49 pm

Blazing_royale wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:
Blazing_royale wrote:Only guys i'm digging on this roster is Murry and Keldon, the rest can be traded.

I would definitely trade Keldon before either of Vassell, Primo, or Poeltl

What's the read on Primo? I've heard a lot of mix reviews about him being a reach. I haven't watched him much.

It's hard to say. He is literally the youngest player in the league so it's hard to get a read on him. On one end he looks pretty big and strong for his age, and may grow another inch or two. He has incredible feel and some ingrained instincts that are not teachable. He has also become a very stout defender by the end of the season. His shot is currently being reworked by Chip, so he started the season decent but his shot has fallen off a cliff while he reworks his form. He shows flashes of his talent here and there but he also struggles with the thing every new Spur does - trying to "fit into the system" and not do too much, which for the youngest player in the league is understandable

The kid oozes talent but he is raw as hell still, but the Spurs are slowly refining him and you can tell when he's interviewed that he's very smart and aware of his position and what he needs to do to get better. At this point it could go either way, but Spurs picks usually end up being players, so give the kid 2 more years and I think people will begin asking why he wasn't picked higher.

Blame Rasho · Post #43 » by **Blame Rasho** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:50 pm

I am of the opinion that the spurs overachieved given their talent. I honestly never thought that Murray would be a all star type player. Kledon really has overachieved and is playing out of position. I mean the guy has had a 20/20 game, that shouldn’t be possible.

The thing is that the spurs need overall talent in their front court. They have missed on some of their picks. I don’t think much of walker outside of his short burst after the white trade. Šamanić might have been the laziest player I have seen that the spurs drafted. They drafted Milutinov who never came over and could have drafted anyone or traded the pick.

I know with three picks in first round and one in 2nd, there is likely to be draft and stash, but they need to get one of the better 4s in the draft.

I personally want Becky hammon to have gotten the coach position when/if pop retires but I don’t see him leaving. I feel without basketball, his life would literally end. He has the all time record for wins in playoffs and regular season, 5 championships, there is nothing else to prove but if anyone has earned a liberty pass to go out on his own terms, it is him.

Post #44 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:46 pm

I like Vessel, Murray, and Poertl, but they're all really good complimentary pieces in my mind. They still needs that 1st option. Ideally, Murray runs the offense and serves as the second option. The just need to draft well and hope they hit.

Chinook · Post #45 » by **Chinook** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:46 am

This was a season with a number of great moments (Pop getting the record; Murray making the ASG, some of those game-winners over good teams), but especially at the beginning it was a slog of poor play and a lack of size. I think there are many opportunities to improve, which is why I labeled them a rising team. But I also think the team should try to not going to improve much organically. At best they have one star and one guy who looks like he could be a very good scorer with time. The rest are role-players until proven otherwise. Even Poeltl is a role-player, even if he's one of the top non-MVP centers.

The Spurs need to be aggressive in adding a star. They shouldn't tank, but they should try to move around the draft or use the picks to acquire a couple of stars, and they have the means to do it without going all in. That should be their goal rather than just internal improvement.

ElectricMayhem · Post #46 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:40 am

San Antonio feels like a treadmill sloped upwards to me. They are young and improving, but I don't see a high ceiling. Where are they going and will they get there before Pop enters the crypt? Popovich has definitely earned the right to decide when to call it quits. The front office is still getting some hits (Keldon Johnson at his draft position was a steal). I just wonder what the end game is here.

JujitsuFlip · Post #47 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:17 pm

I didn't know they had 3 first round picks. They have 9 before the draft lottery, then a coin flip for 20 or 21, and another coin flip for 24 or 25 or 26.

Pretty good place to be, a lottery pick and two others in the 20s.

CP War Hawks · Post #48 » by **CP War Hawks** » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:42 pm

How much cap space do they have and who are they favored to land. I'd package all those picks for Murray if possible.

Muggamills · Post #49 » by **Muggamills** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:45 pm

This forum is a joke and doesn’t have a clue

How can the youngest team in the league (or close to it)

Be considered a treadmill team when they have all their draft picks and other teams picks as well plus max cap space …

The overall iq on this board is trending down

ElectricMayhem · Post #50 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:34 pm

Muggamills wrote:This forum is a joke and doesn’t have a clue

How can the youngest team in the league (or close to it)

Be considered a treadmill team when they have all their draft picks and other teams picks as well plus max cap space …

The overall iq on this board is trending down

*11th

Blame Rasho · Post #51 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:57 pm

ElectricMayhem wrote:
Muggamills wrote:This forum is a joke and doesn’t have a clue

How can the youngest team in the league (or close to it)

Be considered a treadmill team when they have all their draft picks and other teams picks as well plus max cap space …

The overall iq on this board is trending down

*11th

If you want some homerism. You can go to spurstalk.

Electric Mayhem has done a great job on these boards and just putting a crap like that reflects on you more than then us.

Muggamills · Post #52 » by **Muggamills** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:24 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:
Muggamills wrote:This forum is a joke and doesn’t have a clue

How can the youngest team in the league (or close to it)

Be considered a treadmill team when they have all their draft picks and other teams picks as well plus max cap space …

The overall iq on this board is trending down

*11th

You remove Doug and J rich and I’m sure they enter the top 5

The teams core players are all young regradless

Muggamills · Post #53 » by **Muggamills** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:26 am

Blame Rasho wrote:
ElectricMayhem wrote:
Muggamills wrote:This forum is a joke and doesn’t have a clue

How can the youngest team in the league (or close to it)

Be considered a treadmill team when they have all their draft picks and other teams picks as well plus max cap space …

The overall iq on this board is trending down

*11th

If you want some homerism. You can go to spurstalk.

Electric Mayhem has done a great job on these boards and just putting a crap like that reflects on you more than then you.

Putting up crap ? :lol:

remove Doug and it becomes the youngest team or close to it right ? Foh nobody was looking for homerism .. This forum is a joke

Blame Rasho · Post #54 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:30 am

Muggamills wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:
ElectricMayhem wrote:
*11th

If you want some homerism. You can go to spurstalk.

Electric Mayhem has done a great job on these boards and just putting a crap like that reflects on you more than then you.

Putting up crap ? remove Doug and it becomes the youngest team or close to it right ? Foh nobody was looking for homerism .. This forum is a joke

Yeah it was a crap post, you don’t own it when you had a chance and now you are eating it when corrected. You are the one who is crying like their feelings are hurt and saying blah blah this forum is a joke. It is funny for me to see.

Muggamills · Post #55 » by **Muggamills** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:38 am

Blame Rasho wrote:
Muggamills wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:
If you want some homerism. You can go to spurstalk.

Electric Mayhem has done a great job on these boards and just putting a crap like that reflects on you more than then you.

Putting up crap ? remove Doug and it becomes the youngest team or close to it right ? Foh nobody was looking for homerism .. This forum is a joke

Yeah it was a crap post, you don’t own it when you had a chance and now you are eating it when corrected. You are the one who is crying like their feelings are hurt and saying blah blah this forum is a joke. It is funny for me to see.

If you remove Doug do they not become the youngest team or not? Hes not a core player my point still stands regradless your just on here dick riding

Muggamills · Post #56 » by **Muggamills** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:40 am

Blame Rasho wrote:
Muggamills wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:
If you want some homerism. You can go to spurstalk.

Electric Mayhem has done a great job on these boards and just putting a crap like that reflects on you more than then you.

Putting up crap ? remove Doug and it becomes the youngest team or close to it right ? Foh nobody was looking for homerism .. This forum is a joke

Yeah it was a crap post, you don’t own it when you had a chance and now you are eating it when corrected. You are the one who is crying like their feelings are hurt and saying blah blah this forum is a joke. It is funny for me to see.

And answer this how are you a treadmill team when your core players are young and you have mutiple first round picks and max cap space? Exactly

Tempe · Post #57 » by **Tempe** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:48 am

Muggamills wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:
Muggamills wrote:
Putting up crap ? remove Doug and it becomes the youngest team or close to it right ? Foh nobody was looking for homerism .. This forum is a joke

Yeah it was a crap post, you don’t own it when you had a chance and now you are eating it when corrected. You are the one who is crying like their feelings are hurt and saying blah blah this forum is a joke. It is funny for me to see.

And answer this how are you a treadmill team when your core players are young and you have mutiple first round picks and max cap space? Exactly

Because they are too good to bottom out, the draft picks are middling and unlikely to result in a star caliber player. No free agent of note is going to sign in San Antonio regardless of their max cap space. They would be better served acquiring bad contracts for picks.

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Blame Rasho · Post #58 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:58 am

I just said what I needed to say in my summary post previously. They need a top pick and top end talent. You can’t read that or get that to marinate in your head? Having various picks and salary cap doesn’t mean anything, if you don’t get star players. You know what they did with all of their cap space previously, absolutely nothing. If you want to have a circle jerk fest about the spurs right now, have at it. As of right now they are a treadmill team.

ElectricMayhem · Post #59 » by **ElectricMayhem** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:30 am

Blame Rasho wrote:I just said what I needed to say in my summary post previously. They need a top pick and top end talent. You can’t read that or get that to marinate in your head? Having various picks and salary cap doesn’t mean anything, if you don’t get star players. You know what they did with all of their cap space previously, absolutely nothing. If you want to have a circle jerk fest about the spurs right now, have at it. As of right now they are a treadmill team.

Thank you very much for the kind words. I actually did select rising team for San Antonio because the core they have will continue to improve. As you mentioned, though, it will only improve to a point without an unexpected jump from someone on the team or an infusion of a high-tier player. Either description seems to make sense for this team. I'm a bit surprised you haven't seen stars head to San Antonio post-Duncan. Everyone knows Pop can win with talent. I'd guess the biggest worry about free agents taking multi-year contracts is not knowing what a post-Pop Spurs operation would look like.