Ime Udoka is coaching the **** out of Boston

[Ckay]

First head coach of color for the Celtics!

you sure?

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What?

[kanersen]

Mad props to Ime Udoka.
Let's leave color out of this, the man is a great coach regardless of his ethnicity.
He made the Celtics play for each other and hold themselves accountable - which was a culture I didn't think could be changed given the personnel that team has had the last 5 years.

[Kvothe22]

Again Americans find a way to talk about person color.

Obsessed with human color like always, fascinating.

[Slacktard]

Mad props to Ime Udoka.
Let's leave color out of this, the man is a great coach regardless of his ethnicity.
He made the Celtics play for each other and hold themselves accountable - which was a culture I didn't think could be changed given the personnel that team has had the last 5 years.

I think it's worth pointing out because 'narratives' still exist to belittle black head coaches. Many are looked at as 'player coaches' and very often do not get anywhere near the respect for their ability to game-plan and its viewed as a "they can communicate" with the other "black players" better because they're black.

Dude is straight-up a super intelligent guy who knows the game extremely well. It's not about his attitude, his persona, his relationships with players. He's a very intelligent and capable basketball guy period.

[kanersen]

Mad props to Ime Udoka.
Let's leave color out of this, the man is a great coach regardless of his ethnicity.
He made the Celtics play for each other and hold themselves accountable - which was a culture I didn't think could be changed given the personnel that team has had the last 5 years.

I think it's worth pointing out because 'narratives' still exist to belittle black head coaches. Many are looked at as 'player coaches' and very often do not get anywhere near the respect for their ability to game-plan and its viewed as a "they can communicate" with the other "black players" better because they're black.

Dude is straight-up a super intelligent guy who knows the game extremely well. It's not about his attitude, his persona, his relationships with players. He's a very intelligent and capable basketball guy period.

They can communicate better because last time I checked most black coaches have had previous NBA experience and can communicate with current players better on that level. If you've recently done the same job as people you are now managing and instructing on how to do their job, you are going to have better communication. This is regardless of what industry you're in. This is a strength, not a weakness, and should not be interpreted as one. A person that has relevant experience is much more likely to make sense to an individual filling that role currently and gaining that respect. it's a reason why in the IT sector, a lot of coding shops have dysfunction when they stick a manager with "managing experience" and no coding experience to manage a room full of coders.

All of the positive adjectives you used to describe Udoka are in large part because he's played the game. It just so happens that the majority of NBA players that play the game are black AND Udoka being a former player; has used his experience and insight to help build himself into a great coach. It has NOTHING to do with color, it has to do with experience of the current dynamic of the NBA and relatability to the current group of NBA players. We need to stop making everything about color. Sports should unite people not the other way around.

Ime Udoka is a helluva coach. Period.

[soloxylo]

Absolutely. Brad Stevens was the most overrated coach of his (relatively brief) era, and by the time he left, the level of underperformance and lack of cohesion was through the roof. It’s so impressive how Ime has cleaned up the mess he was left and finally harnessed Boston’s talent. They are as in it as any team.

I will not tolerate any Brad Stevens slander.

Brad was a brilliant coach, but he never got to coach a team with no exploitable players on defense...Ainge always gave him an undersized lead guard like IT, Kyrie, and Kemba, who were all bad defenders who could be targeted in the playoffs. The benches he had to work with were really uninspiring too, with very limited players who he managed to squeeze maximum production out of. Now that he's an executive, he went out and created a team he would've loved to coach.

But I'm really happy with Ime. What an absolute slam dunk hire by Brad. He's also lucky he caught the Jays at the right time, when they're ready to take the next step. Brad knew they platueaed under him, so stepping down was one of his best moves.

Honestly, it takes a lot of selflessness and self-awareness to step aside the way he did. Just about every coach in that position would've been ego driven to see it through on his own terms. It baffled me when the news broke, but now I'm seeing the vision he had. I have a ton of respect for Brad, for passing the baton to Udoka how he did in order to see the vision through.

[DaFan334]

I always like him as a player and he has the type of team that fits his style very well. With Tatum really stepping into the Superstar role, this team has as good of any to come out of the East.

[Fencer reregistered]

First head coach of color for the Celtics!

5 of the Celtics' 17 championships have been won with Black head coaches.

That includes 5 of the 7 cases where the coach was a former NBA player, and 0 of the 10 cases where he was not.

Red Auerbach 9
Bill Russell 2
Tom Heinsohn 2
Bill Fitch 1
KC Jones 2
Doc Rivers 1

[Fencer reregistered]

Why are we talking about his skin colour in this thread?
Got anything to do with his success with the celtics?

Yes. It probably does. It was known that Celtics players wanted a Black ex-NBA player.

Tatum wanted a coach who would be tough on guys. He presumably didn't care what the guy looked like (he loves Coach K from Duke). But perhaps some of the others didn't want to be yelled at by a White guy. (I'd specifically guess Jaylen for being one such.)

If you want to raise political objections, raise them against the Celtics players who actively wanted a Black guy. But given their preferences, it made perfect sense to accommodate their wishes in that respect.

[Ckay]

First head coach of color for the Celtics!

5 of the Celtics' 17 championships have been won with Black head coaches.

That includes 5 of the 7 cases where the coach was a former NBA player, and 0 of the 10 cases where he was not.

Red Auerbach 9
Bill Russell 2
Tom Heinsohn 2
Bill Fitch 1
KC Jones 2
Doc Rivers 1

Oh yea?

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[Fencer reregistered]

I said it on the Knicks board, I love this new generation of coaches with Udoka, Jenkins, Monty, Lue and a couple others.

They're much more flexible, pragmatic and bold than the previous generation of coaches, besides Spo and to a lesser extent Kerr.

Nick Nurse should be in there.

[Chanel Bomber]

I said it on the Knicks board, I love this new generation of coaches with Udoka, Jenkins, Monty, Lue and a couple others.

They're much more flexible, pragmatic and bold than the previous generation of coaches, besides Spo and to a lesser extent Kerr.

Nick Nurse should be in there.

Forgot to mention him. You're right.

[Mephariel]

you have biased, fixed mind about me already. your mind is set. I am not going to bother attempting to repair your "woke, political correct, social justice warrior" mindset. I wish you good luck.

Ok cool, go back to your cave snowflake.

[bisme37]

Bloody hell you guys, Udoka deserves a thread about his great coaching. Not the mess this thread has become.

I know the reference to race was only mentioned to tease Jay Williams for his stupid tweet, but at this point the thread is fully derailed and on the verge of getting locked.

Everyone get off the race debate and personal insults and get the thread back on track, please.

[Mephariel]

Mad props to Ime Udoka.
Let's leave color out of this, the man is a great coach regardless of his ethnicity.
He made the Celtics play for each other and hold themselves accountable - which was a culture I didn't think could be changed given the personnel that team has had the last 5 years.

I think it's worth pointing out because 'narratives' still exist to belittle black head coaches. Many are looked at as 'player coaches' and very often do not get anywhere near the respect for their ability to game-plan and its viewed as a "they can communicate" with the other "black players" better because they're black.

Dude is straight-up a super intelligent guy who knows the game extremely well. It's not about his attitude, his persona, his relationships with players. He's a very intelligent and capable basketball guy period.

They can communicate better because last time I checked most black coaches have had previous NBA experience and can communicate with current players better on that level. If you've recently done the same job as people you are now managing and instructing on how to do their job, you are going to have better communication. This is regardless of what industry you're in. This is a strength, not a weakness, and should not be interpreted as one. A person that has relevant experience is much more likely to make sense to an individual filling that role currently and gaining that respect. it's a reason why in the IT sector, a lot of coding shops have dysfunction when they stick a manager with "managing experience" and no coding experience to manage a room full of coders.

All of the positive adjectives you used to describe Udoka are in large part because he's played the game. It just so happens that the majority of NBA players that play the game are black AND Udoka being a former player; has used his experience and insight to help build himself into a great coach. It has NOTHING to do with color, it has to do with experience of the current dynamic of the NBA and relatability to the current group of NBA players. We need to stop making everything about color. Sports should unite people not the other way around.

Ime Udoka is a helluva coach. Period.

Not everything is about color. That is absolutely true. But color is a part of life. And it is a factor in professional life. Just like gender, looks, age, height, everything. There is nothing wrong with discussing how any of those things can affect a coach. And it is more than just he "played the game." It also could be that he shared more of the same experiences outside of the court with some of the players. Not necessarily saying this applies to you, but I just found it amusing that the people who cry "political correctness" are the same people who consistently want others to "stop talking."

[prejt]

Again Americans find a way to talk about person color.

Obsessed with human color like always, fascinating.

Not all of us. Just most of the left and right.

[bisme37]

* Taps mic *

Is this thing on?

[KIRAG]

While everyone's piling on KD/Nash/Kyrie/etc., and deservedly so, I have to give some props to Ime Udoka for the job he's doing coaching this Celtics team.

He's made them tougher, physically and mentally, throughout the season, and its showed during this series. They respond to every big shot, they play physical as hell, they contest everything, and they don't let you have anything easy.

His defensive gameplan on Durant has him looking like a local YMCA recruit, and the way the team rotates and helps on defense is amazing.

So impressed with the mentality he's implemented in this team, the way they execute on defense, and their "f-you" attitude.

[alevirfe]

Again Americans find a way to talk about person color.

Obsessed with human color like always, fascinating.

Mad props to Ime Udoka.
Let's leave color out of this, the man is a great coach regardless of his ethnicity.
He made the Celtics play for each other and hold themselves accountable - which was a culture I didn't think could be changed given the personnel that team has had the last 5 years.

once again, NO ONE in this thread is bringing up color EXCEPT for the people complaining about people bringing it up. you guys are hilarious. read the damn thread before you complain

[alevirfe]

Bloody hell you guys, Udoka deserves a thread about his great coaching. Not the mess this thread has become.

I know the reference to race was only mentioned to tease Jay Williams for his stupid tweet, but at this point the thread is fully derailed and on the verge of getting locked.

Everyone get off the race debate and personal insults and get the thread back on track, please.

the only posters bringing it up are literally the ones complaining about it. it's so typical.

people just love to be offended at nothing. they react to something that hasn't happened and literally derail the thread