Jimmy Butler all time ranking?

[threethehardway]

When you look at all time players, you have to take into account their whole career. The question isn’t about peaks.

Being a great player for 10-12 years > being one for 6 years.

i rank all time players based on the odds they give me to win a championship.

I don't care about career totals as much as I care about peak production and whether that production led to legitimate chances to win rings. There's plenty of players with career totals that they racked up with no chance of a winning a championship like Carmelo. There's players with career totals that don't even come close to being some all time great number like Kawhi who has multiple championships.

So yeah, I rate a player like Jimmy Butler who, has had the Heat in the championship hunt as the only multi All NBA player on his team, (Kyle Lowry was All NBA in 2016) highly.

Jimmy has proven he can lead a team as the guy with a bunch of undrafted players, cast-offs, and a couple of young guys.

[AussieCeltic]

When you look at all time players, you have to take into account their whole career. The question isn’t about peaks.

Being a great player for 10-12 years > being one for 6 years.

i rank all time players based on the odds they give me to win a championship.

I don't care about career totals as much as I care about peak production and whether that production led to legitimate chances to win rings. There's plenty of players with career totals that they racked up with no chance of a winning a championship like Carmelo. There's players with career totals that don't even come close to being some all time great number like Kawhi who has multiple championships.

So yeah, I rate a player like Jimmy Butler who, has had the Heat in the championship hunt as the only multi All NBA player on his team, (Kyle Lowry was All NBA in 2016) highly.

Jimmy has proven he can lead a team as the guy with a bunch of undrafted players, cast-offs, and a couple of young guys.

So.. where was he last year. In his prime? Getting swept while averaging 14ppg and negative in every advanced stat available.

[perempe20]

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/most-40-point-games-in-a-postseason

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Alright I’m done, I just see the horrible outlandish takes on the GB all the time so I figured I’d join in on the fun. I’m just messing with you all outside of Jimmy easily being the best player in this series and in these playoffs.

Giannis, Jokic & Luka all were better than Jimmy. Nice try tho

No they weren’t lol. They’ll all be watching his game tomorrow too

[DonaldSanders]

Kobe played through more injuries than anyone I've ever seen and I never rooted for the guy. He also averaged 8 seasons with more PPG for the playoffs than Jimmy is doing this season.

Jimmy has great peak games, but he also poops the bed sometimes.

I think AI had more or was really close.

Ah that's fair, I wish I had watched more of AI's playoff games.

[threethehardway]

So.. where was he last year. In his prime? Getting swept while averaging 14ppg and negative in every advanced stat available.

Jimmy Butler got closer to winning it all as the number one guy than Ray Allen or Paul Pierce ever did. He's closer than they ever did again this year.

That's all that really matters to me.

And he's performed better in the playoffs than Ray Allen.

And let's not act like Paul Pierce was Prime Lebron out there, Jimmy got a case of being better than Paul Pierce in the playoffs too.

[Pennebaker]

He’s the 3rd best player in Heat history. All time he’s in the Kobe Magic Bird tier tbh.

Kobe, Magic and Bird combined for 13 championships, 7 MVPs and 7 Finals MVPs. Jimmy Butler has 0s in all of those categories.

Butler is closer to Paul Pierce than Larry Bird.

[Speedlot]

If he brings his team to the finals? Damn it's pretty impressive.

Definitely respect him for what he's doing here.

[Roronoa]

He’s the 3rd best player in Heat history. All time he’s in the Kobe Magic Bird tier tbh.

I love Butler, but chill

If he wins a title this year I'm putting him in the top 75. Probably 70-75 range.

[Tim Kempton]

When you look at all time players, you have to take into account their whole career. The question isn’t about peaks.

Being a great player for 10-12 years > being one for 6 years.

i rank all time players based on the odds they give me to win a championship.

I don't care about career totals as much as I care about peak production and whether that production led to legitimate chances to win rings. There's plenty of players with career totals that they racked up with no chance of a winning a championship like Carmelo. There's players with career totals that don't even come close to being some all time great number like Kawhi who has multiple championships.

So yeah, I rate a player like Jimmy Butler who, has had the Heat in the championship hunt as the only multi All NBA player on his team, (Kyle Lowry was All NBA in 2016) highly.

Jimmy has proven he can lead a team as the guy with a bunch of undrafted players, cast-offs, and a couple of young guys.

So.. where was he last year. In his prime? Getting swept while averaging 14ppg and negative in every advanced stat available.

Not saying he's right, but you're opening up a can of worms here. Pierce missed the playoffs 3 times in a weak Eastern Conference during his prime from 2000-2007.

[SpreeS]

This is career vs prime battle. I am leaning to prime over career. Prime years is the most important for top players. If Butler would win second ECF, for me he is in Pierce/Allen group. He is like Kawhi/Reed career type player, who give you max possibilities to win in short period. Its like compare Curry to Stockton, who the f…k cares about 1500 games or 15000 career ast then you have never was a real team elavator to win it all.

[a8bil]

Where's Klay Thompson? One position below.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Where do you view him compared to Melo?

[threethehardway]

Where do you view him compared to Melo?

He's obviously better than Melo.

[Kaykoose]

Damn, Jimmy is overrated here

[BoatsNZones]

He’s the 3rd best player in Heat history. All time he’s in the Kobe Magic Bird tier tbh.

No. He has to win rings for that.

........ And MVP's. Hell let's start with his first All NBA 2nd Team lol.

But back to reality. Top 125? That is underrating him at his best, but he is rarely at his best.

[BoatsNZones]

Where's Klay Thompson? One position below.

Interesting comment actually given the discussion of Klay being snubbed for top 75 and the fact that Jimmy is a clearly better individual talent.

Rankings are tough.

[rate_]

If he leads Heat to championship while maintaining a 30 PER | .300 WS/48 | 12 BPM, then to me he's TOP 50 unquestionably. He's on the verge of an ATG playoff run. He'll get the Kawhi treatment.

[meekrab]

Alright I’m done, I just see the horrible outlandish takes on the GB all the time so I figured I’d join in on the fun. I’m just messing with you all outside of Jimmy easily being the best player in this series and in these playoffs.

Giannis, Jokic & Luka all were better than Jimmy. Nice try tho

No they weren’t lol. They’ll all be watching his game tomorrow too

Everything a team accomplishes is 100% due to their best player.

[hoosierdaddy34]

Probably top 150 to 200 of all time. He’s probably on a similar tier to Paul Pierce.