Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat

Exp0sed · Post #41 » by **Exp0sed** » Mon May 30, 2022 4:45 am

BK_2020 wrote:Is Herro really worse than Oladipo? And Duncan Robinson worse than Strus? They should blow this team up.

Herro's defense is Jordan Poole level..Dipo is a good defender
Robinson as well, and I have even less optimism about Duncan's defense improving
Herro should be traded, i still think he can fetch something..as for Robinson he's as playable as bertans and on the same contract basically..so Heat are stuck with that one, it's untradeble without adding significant assest\s

Miami_Lux · Post #42 » by **Miami_Lux** » Mon May 30, 2022 4:47 am

BK_2020 wrote:Is Herro really worse than Oladipo? And Duncan Robinson worse than Strus? They should blow this team up.

First question. No he is not worse but has failed to deliver in the playoffs. He might actually still have some trade value and I wouldn t mined trading Herro in a trade package for a Lillard/Mitchell type player

To your second question. Yes, yes, absolutely yes. And not only is Duncan worse than Strus but he gets paid 8 times the salary

Pachinko_ · Post #43 » by **Pachinko_** » Mon May 30, 2022 4:53 am

I think this was a very successful year for Miami and it's silly to think that it wasn't because of how a couple of shots went in the end of game 7 in the ECF. This could've easily been a Finals team and if they can have another go with exactly the same performance, they should. They're right there with the best of them, you don't just throw that away.

threethehardway · Post #44 » by **threethehardway** » Mon May 30, 2022 4:54 am

The Heat need to stop trying to rely on aging stars, has-beens and undrafted players to win championships.

This model can win playoff games but it can't win a ring.

Either get top 10 players in free agency or stand pat.

What was the point of getting Lowry? He's old ass hell and wasn't that good of a player in his prime anyway, so isn't like there was any residual talent left anyway.

What was the point of giving a freaking shooter that can't guard anybody 90 million freaking dollars?

Lol it's like when the Heat shelled out dough for James Johnson, Dion Waiters and Goran Dragic.

Their entire model of building a team is just cheapness.

They don't wanna lose to get draft to get good young players with potential. They rather pay cast aways and old guys. They like to show out in free agency but then when they don't get their guy, they panic and blow their wad.

Only move I can see them take is trading Herro for Dame or Beal.

Lol or watch they trade Lowry and Robinson for Westbrook.

Post #45 » by **jbk1234** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:07 am

Tor_Raps wrote:Seems like the Heat are going to struggle just bringing back the same roster, let alone get better. Struss/Vincent/Tucker/Herro/Oladipo will all be free agents and be looking for better deals. That Robinson contract is going to screw them hard.

Are we sure Tucker's opting out? The Celtics ran him off the floor tonight. If you can't keep up with Horford and Grant Williams, that doesn't bode well for your future.

Kurtz · Post #46 » by **Kurtz** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:18 am

I don't think they need a big change - just need a bit more playable size and secondary scoring. Something around Duncan Robinson+Herro for Julius Randle might be a win-win. He'd fit their physical style and adds a little bit of secondary playmaking. Oladipo can take over the Herro role, as he'll likely look better next year.

Kobe187 · Post #47 » by **Kobe187** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:19 am

jbk1234 wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Seems like the Heat are going to struggle just bringing back the same roster, let alone get better. Struss/Vincent/Tucker/Herro/Oladipo will all be free agents and be looking for better deals. That Robinson contract is going to screw them hard.

Are we sure Tucker's opting out? The Celtics ran him off the floor tonight. If you can't keep up with Horford and Grant Williams, that doesn't bode well for your future.

I’d sign someone like Harrel instead, Tucker is good defensively but the Heat could use someone that’s a bit better offensively.

Post #48 » by **jbk1234** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:21 am

Kobe187 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Seems like the Heat are going to struggle just bringing back the same roster, let alone get better. Struss/Vincent/Tucker/Herro/Oladipo will all be free agents and be looking for better deals. That Robinson contract is going to screw them hard.

Are we sure Tucker's opting out? The Celtics ran him off the floor tonight. If you can't keep up with Horford and Grant Williams, that doesn't bode well for your future.

I’d sign someone like Harrel instead, Tucker is good defensively but the Heat could use someone that’s a bit better offensively.

He wasn't good defensively tonight. He was old.

Kobe187 · Post #49 » by **Kobe187** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:23 am

The offence from the Heat backcourt was terrible. They need a solid guard that can create and score against tough teams. Could also use a 3&D wing role player. Give Jimmy & Bam some damn help lol.

Pachinko_ · Post #50 » by **Pachinko_** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:49 am

Kobe187 wrote:The offence from the Heat backcourt was terrible. They need a solid guard that can create and score against tough teams. Could also use a 3&D wing role player. Give Jimmy & Bam some damn help lol.

I mean that was supposed to be Herro, they never meant to play Strus 35 minutes a game

Kobe187 · Post #51 » by **Kobe187** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:53 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
Kobe187 wrote:The offence from the Heat backcourt was terrible. They need a solid guard that can create and score against tough teams. Could also use a 3&D wing role player. Give Jimmy & Bam some damn help lol.

I mean that was supposed to be Herro, they never meant to play Strus 35 minutes a game

Herro can’t score against tough defensive matchups and is terrible defensively, was actually a liability whenever the Heat tried to play him.

meh · Post #52 » by **meh** » Mon May 30, 2022 6:07 am

Heat need to make some serious moves. Butler, Adebayo, and Herro are the core, need better support.

Miami_Lux · Post #53 » by **Miami_Lux** » Mon May 30, 2022 6:14 am

Kurtz wrote:I don't think they need a big change - just need a bit more playable size and secondary scoring. Something around Duncan Robinson+Herro for Julius Randle might be a win-win. He'd fit their physical style and adds a little bit of secondary playmaking. Oladipo can take over the Herro role, as he'll likely look better next year.

Julius Randle?? HEEEEELLLL NOOOOO

Post #54 » by **KingDavid** » Mon May 30, 2022 6:34 am

Kurtz wrote:I don't think they need a big change - just need a bit more playable size and secondary scoring. Something around Duncan Robinson+Herro for Julius Randle might be a win-win. He'd fit their physical style and adds a little bit of secondary playmaking. Oladipo can take over the Herro role, as he'll likely look better next year.

**** no to Julius Randle lmao

Post #55 » by **KingDavid** » Mon May 30, 2022 6:37 am

Kobe187 wrote:The offence from the Heat backcourt was terrible. They need a solid guard that can create and score against tough teams. Could also use a 3&D wing role player. Give Jimmy & Bam some damn help lol.

We need a scoring pg next to Jimmy and a center next to Bam so he can play pf. $90 million in Duncan's garbage ass on the bench. Whatever the **** Lowry costs, eating his way to hamstring injuries, Tyler isn't ready for the big stage when defenders key in on him. So we got some problems to handle in order to upgrade.

Miami_Lux · Post #56 » by **Miami_Lux** » Mon May 30, 2022 6:37 am

KingDavid wrote:
Kurtz wrote:I don't think they need a big change - just need a bit more playable size and secondary scoring. Something around Duncan Robinson+Herro for Julius Randle might be a win-win. He'd fit their physical style and adds a little bit of secondary playmaking. Oladipo can take over the Herro role, as he'll likely look better next year.

**** no to Julius Randle lmao

I would rather keep Duncan than trade for Randle lollll

Miami_Lux · Post #57 » by **Miami_Lux** » Mon May 30, 2022 6:38 am

KingDavid wrote:
Kobe187 wrote:The offence from the Heat backcourt was terrible. They need a solid guard that can create and score against tough teams. Could also use a 3&D wing role player. Give Jimmy & Bam some damn help lol.

We need a scoring pg next to Jimmy and a center next to Bam so he can play pf. $90 million in Duncan's garbage ass on the bench. Whatever the **** Lowry costs, eating his way to hamstring injuries, Tyler isn't ready for the big stage when defenders key in on him. So we got some problems to handle in order to upgrade.

It s Dame time ya ll. Make it happen.

Post #58 » by **KingDavid** » Mon May 30, 2022 6:43 am

Miami_Lux wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
Kurtz wrote:I don't think they need a big change - just need a bit more playable size and secondary scoring. Something around Duncan Robinson+Herro for Julius Randle might be a win-win. He'd fit their physical style and adds a little bit of secondary playmaking. Oladipo can take over the Herro role, as he'll likely look better next year.

**** no to Julius Randle lmao

I would rather keep Duncan than trade for Randle lollll

I'd trade Duncan for Julius. That's the best I've got. Not giving up Herro for him.

GrindCityHustle · Post #59 » by **GrindCityHustle** » Mon May 30, 2022 7:01 am

People underestimate what Riley has up his sleeve this off-season.

baldur · Post #60 » by **baldur** » Mon May 30, 2022 7:04 am

the problem is your starter and your 6th man, (actually and literally the 6th man of the year) became unplayable at the playoffs. so for a better chemistry might as well play whoever you gonna play in the playoffs, during the regular season.

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