Woj: Play-In Tournament Set to Become Permanent Fixture for Future NBA Seasons

[Ein Sof]

Because it's unfair that the 39-35 Warriors missed out on the 8 seed to the (checks notes) 40-34 Grizzlies after losing to them at home? Maybe you're the one that needs to work on your critical thinking.

The Grizzlies had 40 wins?

Yes, it's unfair the Warriors lost the 8th seed they fought for all season, brain genius.

When the playoffs started they did. The Warriors should have gotten the 8 seed for having a better record after 72 games even though they didn't after 74 games? That's a miscarriage of justice somehow?

The Grizzlies should have gotten the 8th seed in 72 games. Why did they need extra?

Frauds.

[turnaroundJ]

I don’t think it’s necessary anymore. There should be a provision that gives a maximum gap between wins so that 7th seeds who are way better than the 9th or 10th don’t get shafted.

But then again, back in the 60s almost everyone made the playoffs due to how few the number of teams was.

[Dutchball97]

I really don't mind the play-in but what is the use if you're not also going to shorten the season? The quality of the product is nosediving as games don't mean nearly enough for teams to actually try in the regular season anymore.

[SOUL]

Gotta be honest, I'm shocked to see "no" winning this poll. I feel like the play-in tournament has been an unmitigated success. It's made the regular season more meaningful, it's added exciting games at the beginning of the postseason, I don't know what else you could want. In the past I thought the people being critical were just a vocal minority of haters. I can't believe so many fans genuinely dislike it.

People are not receptive to change in general. You will always see people complain about things and then complain about the things they were complaining about being changed when it inevitably changes again.

[rapstarter]

Substantially cut down on tanking and made the last 20 30 games of the season actually mean something to most teams.

Keep it

This isn't substantially cutting down on tanking. 10th seed so they can get blown out in 4 straight games isn't a great goal.

[Tukkerwolf]

I freaking loved it. Even though as a Wolves fan it was tough that our hard fought 7th seed was on the line, it was so intense and fun.

[MagicFan12345]

I do not like it, look at the Pelicans, they had a losing record and made the play in tournament and won but teams with losing records should not be making the play in tournament or playoffs

[perempe20]

Voted no for tradition.

[Dzon Dilindzer]

nba and owners want play-in tournament, cause of the ratings and also cause it gives some teams bigger chance of getting into the playoffs, so it all comes down to revenue, but it definitely isnt fair to the 7th and 8th seeds, as they risk to lose in two games (where anything can happen) everything they fought for in 82 games, it just isnt fair

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Hate it but if they are going to keep it the should have 9 play 10 and the winner takes on 8. Leave 1-7 out of it.

I would actually look for a way to drag 4 and 5 into it. And maybe a bye to 1.
You want to kill load management? Making every win valuable is the first step

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[Appostis]

Substantially cut down on tanking and made the last 20 30 games of the season actually mean something to most teams.

Keep it

This isn't substantially cutting down on tanking. 10th seed so they can get blown out in 4 straight games isn't a great goal.

Someone hasn't been paying attention.. *shrug*

[Lunartic]

"I love it b/c it makes the Regular season games worth more!"

Except for you know , those 82 games the teams are required to play leading up to the play-in.
The team with the most wins in the conference through 82 games should be in the playoffs over a team with less. No RS games should be worth more in terms of playoff entry than others.

How does this help the league? Adding arbitrary rules/values to the last few games of the season to increase "excitement" is so shortsighted and immature.

Since the first time this junk was implemented we missed out of Curry/Warriors being in the playoffs despite them having 1 more win and 1 less loss than the Grizz. The Grizz went on to get 4-1'd by the Utah Jazz.

Most normal fans can agree Curry is far more fun to watch than the Jazz kids and would have likely made it a more competitive series against Utah. But I'm sure glad we got the oh soo "exciting" play-in tournament game! That surely makes up for a worse team getting nearly swept by the #1 seed.

All RS games should be equal. 1 win is 1 win. The team with more wins/less losses should be in the playoffs.

[Mikistan]

A tournament is clearly an option for higher stakes games and should be legit to get more players trting/prideful to win for bragging rights

I like this addition

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Someday, an underdog, scrappy team will barely make the play in tournament, win the play in tournament, get into the playoffs, fight their way to the NBA Finals, and cap off a cinderella run with the most unlikely championship of all time.


That's gonna be fun to watch when it happens someday.

[the sea duck]

I like it, but only for the 8th seed.

[sp6r=underrated]

Yup, the real issue is the NBA added way too many playoff spots years ago. Heck the NBA had 16 teams in the playoffs when the NBA only had 23 clubs. The result of it is fans don't care that much about making playoffs.

The only way to keep fan interest going is to make the RS more important. Now being top 6 actually matters. So fans care more. The play-in tournament was an improvement over the old system

It would never happen but I'd love for the NBA to adopt the NFL model. In the NFL, 7 teams makes the playoffs with top seed getting a bye. Adopt that in the NBA with a 4 team play-in tournament for the final spot.

Now teams will be gunning for the top seed since it means a week off and teams at the bottom end will be gunning for the 6 seed to avoid the play-in

[sp6r=underrated]

"I love it b/c it makes the Regular season games worth more!"

Except for you know , those 82 games the teams are required to play leading up to the play-in.
The team with the most wins in the conference through 82 games should be in the playoffs over a team with less. No RS games should be worth more in terms of playoff entry than others.

How does this help the league? Adding arbitrary rules/values to the last few games of the season to increase "excitement" is so shortsighted and immature.

Since the first time this junk was implemented we missed out of Curry/Warriors being in the playoffs despite them having 1 more win and 1 less loss than the Grizz. The Grizz went on to get 4-1'd by the Utah Jazz.

Most normal fans can agree Curry is far more fun to watch than the Jazz kids and would have likely made it a more competitive series against Utah. But I'm sure glad we got the oh soo "exciting" play-in tournament game! That surely makes up for a worse team getting nearly swept by the #1 seed.

All RS games should be equal. 1 win is 1 win. The team with more wins/less losses should be in the playoffs.

Silver's trying to fix the problem of fans not caring about the RS. The play-in tournament makes getting a top 6 spot valuable. If you don't like this change, what do you propose to do to keep interest up in the RS.

[sp6r=underrated]

nba and owners want play-in tournament, cause of the ratings and also cause it gives some teams bigger chance of getting into the playoffs, so it all comes down to revenue, but it definitely isnt fair to the 7th and 8th seeds, as they risk to lose in two games (where anything can happen) everything they fought for in 82 games, it just isnt fair

It is perfectly fair. Every team knows the rules going into the season. If you're aren't top 6 you aren't a guaranteed a playoff spot.

Is it unfair that the NFL gives a bye to the top seed in the Wild Card round?

[durden_tyler]

Nice! Thank you for making this permanent.

[Lunartic]

"I love it b/c it makes the Regular season games worth more!"

Except for you know , those 82 games the teams are required to play leading up to the play-in.
The team with the most wins in the conference through 82 games should be in the playoffs over a team with less. No RS games should be worth more in terms of playoff entry than others.

How does this help the league? Adding arbitrary rules/values to the last few games of the season to increase "excitement" is so shortsighted and immature.

Since the first time this junk was implemented we missed out of Curry/Warriors being in the playoffs despite them having 1 more win and 1 less loss than the Grizz. The Grizz went on to get 4-1'd by the Utah Jazz.

Most normal fans can agree Curry is far more fun to watch than the Jazz kids and would have likely made it a more competitive series against Utah. But I'm sure glad we got the oh soo "exciting" play-in tournament game! That surely makes up for a worse team getting nearly swept by the #1 seed.

All RS games should be equal. 1 win is 1 win. The team with more wins/less losses should be in the playoffs.

Silver's trying to fix the problem of fans not caring about the RS. The play-in tournament makes getting a top 6 spot valuable. If you don't like this change, what do you propose to do to keep interest up in the RS.

I propose actually improving the game by cracking down on flopping/flailing/lack of defense allowed

Early last season, my interest and noticeably the interest from realgmers was up due to the rule changes concerning drawing contact. They shifted from that around the all-star break and went back to giving weak calls to stars. Interest goes up when players are allowed to shine on both sides of the ball.

I hardly see how adding in some random "tournament" at the very end of the season will increase interest during the other 70+ games. I doubt anyone is tuning to games in Feb with the tournament in mind. The tournament games are fun to watch but so would a 1v1 tournament between star players, doesn't mean it's worth doing.