Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant?

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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#41 » by Hoppy1 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:24 pm

Send any player crying about a trade to Siberia/Sacramento. That will always be my response. But in reality where Durant wants to go is secondary to where the team can get the best deal. Team should look for team just as KD did in signing a huge contract looking out for KD.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#42 » by Crives » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:24 pm

jokeboy86 wrote:I keep telling people but don't be surprised if Kyrie/KD/Ben and the Nets actually look good and Kyrie and KD say they'll "look at or analyze things once the season is over". If they're clicking and high in the standings I think this comes to a grinding halt temporarily.


KD doesn’t trust Kyrie or Ben…. A good start to the season won’t change that.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#43 » by NYPiston » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:25 pm

baldur wrote:Phoenix or miami. I don't see any other destination that makes sense as much as these two teams. With Kevin durant you will have a short championship window, these teams have been in the finals, and conference finals very recently and their windows are already short with Chris Paul and Jimmy butler respectively, durant should be able elevate these teams to a better and truet contender.


What does Phoenix even have to offer? I don't see a package centering around Mikhail Bridges and some very late 1sts being even remotely close to getting it done.
For that matter, what does Miami have to offer? Tyler Herro plus some late 1sts? (assuming that Bam is untouchable). Neither team has the young assets or the draft picks to put together much of a trade package.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#44 » by drchaos » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:33 pm

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jokeboy86 wrote:I keep telling people but don't be surprised if Kyrie/KD/Ben and the Nets actually look good and Kyrie and KD say they'll "look at or analyze things once the season is over". If they're clicking and high in the standings I think this comes to a grinding halt temporarily.


KD doesn’t trust Kyrie or Ben…. A good start to the season won’t change that.


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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#45 » by HeatIn5 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:45 pm

KhalilS wrote: LBJ/Anthony Davis to BKN,



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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#46 » by RoyceDa59 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:52 pm

It’s quite a strange scenario.

Makes no sense for any team to include their star players because it defeats the purpose of trading for win-now Durant.

But Nets don’t own any of their own draft picks, so sucking isn’t an option. Nets need star talent and high end 1st round picks, neither of which they’ll get in a Durant trade.

So I honestly think the market of total pursuers for Durant(34) is much less than that of Mitchell(25), Gobert(30).

And the market for Kyrie (no showed on his Drew league game yesterday) is even less. Lakers w LeBron are the only team willing to touch this with a 10 foot pole.

So the Nets will “wait” and it’ll be just super annoying for fans to be in limbo for months on this.

What a mess.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#47 » by NZB2323 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:05 pm

The Brooklyn Nets should go all-in on Kevin Durant. They can keep him without having to give anything up, and they have him under contract for the rest of his prime.

Let’s see how Durant, Irving, and Simmons work together. Simmons doesn’t want to shoot but he won’t have to playing next to Durant and Irving. Also, maybe Irving and Durant are playing 4-D chess by creating distractions so all the attention and pressure isn’t on Simmons.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#48 » by SK21209 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:08 pm

Personally I think the Raptors should. I wouldn't include Barnes, but I would include OG, Siakam and 2 or 3 picks for KD/O'Neal. FVV/GTJ/Barnes/KD/Boucher with O'Neal, Porter and Precious off the bench is rock-solid super versatile.
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Post#49 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:30 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
SUPERVILLAIN wrote:I believe 76ers should go all-in.

Tobias Harris, Matisse Thybulle, Tyrese Maxey plus picks and swaps for Kevin Durant.

It works in the trade machine. 76ers time is now. The Process is over.


If they aren't asking for picks on top of that...76ers should consider that. If they want picks the 76ers should run. That said, I'm not sure that's wise either. You just can't gut your roster and depth. The 76ers have to hope Harden comes back to at least 3rd team all nba form and if he does. I'd rather have him and Embiid with depth than to top load a team with 2 guys in their mid 30's and Embiid.


Does Harden still count as a star? 3 picks plus Harden for Durant :lol:
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#50 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:34 pm

NZB2323 wrote:The Brooklyn Nets should go all-in on Kevin Durant. They can keep him without having to give anything up, and they have him under contract for the rest of his prime.

Let’s see how Durant, Irving, and Simmons work together. Simmons doesn’t want to shoot but he won’t have to playing next to Durant and Irving. Also, maybe Irving and Durant are playing 4-D chess by creating distractions so all the attention and pressure isn’t on Simmons.


The combination of Durant/Kyrie/Simmons has a lot of potential with less skills overlap than Durant/Kyrie/Harden, so if they took a shot at the latter they should do the same with the former. Durant’s numbers have held up well despite age and injury, this core could have 2-3 peak years left.

Best case scenario is it works well enough to convince both their FO and Kyrie that they should all stick together (though it seems more likely that Kyrie will bolt next offseason.)
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Post#51 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:06 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
SUPERVILLAIN wrote:I believe 76ers should go all-in.

Tobias Harris, Matisse Thybulle, Tyrese Maxey plus picks and swaps for Kevin Durant.

It works in the trade machine. 76ers time is now. The Process is over.


If they aren't asking for picks on top of that...76ers should consider that. If they want picks the 76ers should run. That said, I'm not sure that's wise either. You just can't gut your roster and depth. The 76ers have to hope Harden comes back to at least 3rd team all nba form and if he does. I'd rather have him and Embiid with depth than to top load a team with 2 guys in their mid 30's and Embiid.


Does Harden still count as a star? 3 picks plus Harden for Durant :lol:


He was an allstar level player last year. Healthy, and fully recovered we'll see where he is next year. The 76ers would know better than us since he's in camp early and seems to be really pushing himself this off season. But sure if it's KD for Harden and some picks, yeah go for it. I can't see the nets wanting that though. Simmons and Harden aren't a good fit.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#52 » by AlexanderRight » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:20 pm

Portland should go all in and give up the house outside of Lillard. KD has a legitimate Washington/North Cali connection and will be embraced by a fan base that will never turn on him. Having KD and Dame in Portland for 3-4 contending years will be a success for the organization and area even if they don’t win it all and leave after.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#53 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:23 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
If they aren't asking for picks on top of that...76ers should consider that. If they want picks the 76ers should run. That said, I'm not sure that's wise either. You just can't gut your roster and depth. The 76ers have to hope Harden comes back to at least 3rd team all nba form and if he does. I'd rather have him and Embiid with depth than to top load a team with 2 guys in their mid 30's and Embiid.


Does Harden still count as a star? 3 picks plus Harden for Durant :lol:


He was an allstar level player last year. Healthy, and fully recovered we'll see where he is next year. The 76ers would know better than us since he's in camp early and seems to be really pushing himself this off season. But sure if it's KD for Harden and some picks, yeah go for it. I can't see the nets wanting that though. Simmons and Harden aren't a good fit.


I agree with you on all counts- I just thought it would be funny for BKN to trade KD and end up with Harden back.

I think Harden could have a bounce back season.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#54 » by righterwriter » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:23 pm

Middleton and some picks.

Giannis and KD.
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Post#55 » by wegotthabeet » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:34 pm

jokeboy86 wrote:I keep telling people but don't be surprised if Kyrie/KD/Ben and the Nets actually look good and Kyrie and KD say they'll "look at or analyze things once the season is over". If they're clicking and high in the standings I think this comes to a grinding halt temporarily.


are they getting off to a better start than last season?

they were 23-10 and 1st in the East on December 31st, 2021 just for reference.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#56 » by JayMKE » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:38 pm

Nets, this is this best option and should make the best of it.
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Post#57 » by dc » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:46 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:It’s quite a strange scenario.

Makes no sense for any team to include their star players because it defeats the purpose of trading for win-now Durant.

But Nets don’t own any of their own draft picks, so sucking isn’t an option. Nets need star talent and high end 1st round picks, neither of which they’ll get in a Durant trade.

So I honestly think the market of total pursuers for Durant(34) is much less than that of Mitchell(25), Gobert(30).

And the market for Kyrie (no showed on his Drew league game yesterday) is even less. Lakers w LeBron are the only team willing to touch this with a 10 foot pole.

So the Nets will “wait” and it’ll be just super annoying for fans to be in limbo for months on this.

What a mess.


I agree. Trading for Harden, Kyrie refusing the vax and then Harden subsequently wanting out really screwed them.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#58 » by Dan Z » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:51 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:Nobody because it’s not worth paying the price for him.

He’s on the downside of his career, had a full Achilles rupture, just decided that he didn’t feel like playing for the nets anymore 1 year into an extension, and has wanted out on every team he’s played for.

There’s a certain point no matter how good the player is, the extra stuff isn’t worth it.

Despite all that I'd still pay for him, if he could prove that he can get past a team like the Celtics. But he didn't.

When the Bucks played them I thought he was the best offensive player in the world, but after watching the Celtics series I'm starting to think that the Bucks simply defended him the wrong way.


If they want two all-stars plus a ton of picks then the asking price is too high. Even if a team can give them that it guts their team (and the team's future) so they'd have to be sure that it makes them a serious contender.

IMO Durant's best move is staying in Brooklyn and see what he can do with Kyrie, Simmons and the rest of the roster.
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#59 » by JShuttlesworth » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:54 pm

Brooklyn should keep him. They don't need to honour his trade request, he needs to honour his contract
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Re: Who should go all-in on Kevin Durant? 

Post#60 » by Dan Z » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:54 pm

righterwriter wrote:Middleton and some picks.

Giannis and KD.


The earliest first round pick Milwaukee can trade is 2029. Would the Nets want to wait that long? Doubtful.

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