Let Danny Ainge Rot

baldur · Post #41 » by **baldur** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:55 pm

kawhi leonard cost one first rounder. I don't understand the NBA dynamics.

TwitterFingers · Post #42 » by **TwitterFingers** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:57 pm

Dez wrote:Randle isn't a positive asset.

You think there’s no team out there willing to give up a second for him? I think his value isn’t high, but I do think there are teams willing to trade us assets for him, which would make him an asset.

TwitterFingers · Post #43 » by **TwitterFingers** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 am

Dick Tate wrote:
OrangeBlueSkies wrote:He won’t budge on his ask of SIX first round picks? No problem, let Mitchell ruin your tank and just have yourself a disgruntled superstar. We have all the assets and therefore we, the Knicks, can dictate how this goes down.

Don’t wanna trade us D Mitchell? Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

We have 8 firsts at our disposal, don’t mess this up, and like I been saying since this regime took over, I’ve got faith in them not messing this up.

Even four firsts is a lot of picks, but if we can do fournier, Reddish, 4 firsts, I’m into it. If not let Danny [and unfortunately, Donovan] rot.

The less we give up in a Mitchell deal the more we have for a follow up deal to pair another star next to RJ:Brunson:Mitchell.

Yes, Randle and 3 or 4 firsts can get you something in this market.

Would you classify this post as logical, emotional, or a combination?
Seems to me a disgruntled superstar could actually help a tank. I don't think Ainge is as desperate to trade Mitchell as you think he is.

I think Ainge want to trade him so he can rebuild/tank…but…Ainge doesn’t like to do win wins. Remember we’re talking about a man who hoarded all those picks for years, never cashing in. He could have had Myles Turner for free and didn’t want that. Ainge is a tough guy to bargain with.

danvato · Post #44 » by **danvato** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:02 am

OrangeBlueSkies wrote:He won’t budge on his ask of SIX first round picks? No problem, let Mitchell ruin your tank and just have yourself a disgruntled superstar. We have all the assets and therefore we, the Knicks, can dictate how this goes down.

Don’t wanna trade us D Mitchell? Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

We have 8 firsts at our disposal, don’t mess this up, and like I been saying since this regime took over, I’ve got faith in them not messing this up.

Even four firsts is a lot of picks, but if we can do fournier, Reddish, 4 firsts, I’m into it. If not let Danny [and unfortunately, Donovan] rot.

The less we give up in a Mitchell deal the more we have for a follow up deal to pair another star next to RJ:Brunson:Mitchell.

Yes, Randle and 3 or 4 firsts can get you something in this market.

i'm sorry, is this meant as a troll post. I can never tell with penn station nix fans. Or should I just throw up instead.

TwitterFingers · Post #45 » by **TwitterFingers** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:29 am

beantownski wrote:knicks have no leverage in the situation. ainge will win the trade, and if the knicks get mitchell.....good luck with your 6'1" no defense backcourt.

I wouldn’t be so confident that Ainge will win the trade. This is a new knick front office

RoyceDa59 · Post #46 » by **RoyceDa59** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:31 am

Knicks should play the long game. I think they have the slight upper hand.

shangrila · Post #47 » by **shangrila** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:39 am

omerome wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
OrangeBlueSkies wrote:He won’t budge on his ask of SIX first round picks? No problem, let Mitchell ruin your tank and just have yourself a disgruntled superstar. We have all the assets and therefore we, the Knicks, can dictate how this goes down.

Don’t wanna trade us D Mitchell? Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

We have 8 firsts at our disposal, don’t mess this up, and like I been saying since this regime took over, I’ve got faith in them not messing this up.

Even four firsts is a lot of picks, but if we can do fournier, Reddish, 4 firsts, I’m into it. If not let Danny [and unfortunately, Donovan] rot.

The less we give up in a Mitchell deal the more we have for a follow up deal to pair another star next to RJ:Brunson:Mitchell.

Yes, Randle and 3 or 4 firsts can get you something in this market.

how Knicks' fan thinks their assets look.

how Knicks assets really look.

Har har har.

If these assets weren't so valuable, why is Ainge so adamant about grabbing as many as he can?

Quantity > quality

Dez · Post #48 » by **Dez** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:47 am

TwitterFingers wrote:
Dez wrote:Randle isn't a positive asset.

You think there’s no team out there willing to give up a second for him? I think his value isn’t high, but I do think there are teams willing to trade us assets for him, which would make him an asset.

He's making 23 million next season, so two things.

1) Who can trade for him with a second round pick?

2) Why would they?

RHODEY · Post #49 » by **RHODEY** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:55 am

Dez wrote:Randle isn't a positive asset.

Compared to Westbrook he is.

facothomas22 · Post #50 » by **facothomas22** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:55 am

The Knicks should wait this one out. The Jazz will be forced to trade Donovan Mitchell at some point. No reason to give them 6 1st round picks when they can get him for only 2-3 1st round picks later down the road when the Jazz finally accept that teams will not give away 4-6 draft picks just for a top 30 player in the NBA.

Dez · Post #51 » by **Dez** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:57 am

RHODEY wrote:
Dez wrote:Randle isn't a positive asset.

Compared to Westbrook he is.

Westbrook is at least expiring so no he isn't.

RHODEY · Post #52 » by **RHODEY** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:59 am

beantownski wrote:knicks have no leverage in the situation. ainge will win the trade, and if the knicks get mitchell.....good luck with your 6'1" no defense backcourt.

You still mad?

Spoiler:

Myth · Post #53 » by **Myth** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:59 am

whatisacenter wrote:
OrangeBlueSkies wrote:He won’t budge on his ask of SIX first round picks? No problem, let Mitchell ruin your tank and just have yourself a disgruntled superstar. We have all the assets and therefore we, the Knicks, can dictate how this goes down.

Don’t wanna trade us D Mitchell? Hey Brooklyn, how’s Randle, 4 firsts, and D Rose for KD?

We have 8 firsts at our disposal, don’t mess this up, and like I been saying since this regime took over, I’ve got faith in them not messing this up.

Even four firsts is a lot of picks, but if we can do fournier, Reddish, 4 firsts, I’m into it. If not let Danny [and unfortunately, Donovan] rot.

The less we give up in a Mitchell deal the more we have for a follow up deal to pair another star next to RJ:Brunson:Mitchell.

Yes, Randle and 3 or 4 firsts can get you something in this market.

how Knicks' fan thinks their assets look.

how Knicks assets really look.

Reminds me of this (start at 2:15):

Watch on YouTube

Quattro · Post #54 » by **Quattro** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:10 am

Randle, Rose and a bunch of heavily protected FRPs for Durant? Sure. Brooklyn will be tripping over themselves to make that deal.

TwitterFingers · Post #55 » by **TwitterFingers** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:10 am

Dez wrote:
TwitterFingers wrote:
Dez wrote:Randle isn't a positive asset.

You think there’s no team out there willing to give up a second for him? I think his value isn’t high, but I do think there are teams willing to trade us assets for him, which would make him an asset.

He's making 23 million next season, so two things.

1) Who can trade for him with a second round pick?

2) Why would they?

Sacramento was rumored to be interested in him at the deadline, so that’s one team. There are probably more teams. I’m not a big Randle fan, but I think he’s a upgrade at starting power forward for a bunch of teams. I think the Knicks can get something for him. The idea that a team is interested in him would be maybe he can regain his 2020 form. If he did that or got close to it, then the contract would be a bargain.

OrangeBlueSkies · Post #56 » by **OrangeBlueSkies** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:29 am

Dez wrote:Randle isn't a positive asset.

That’s why I included picks in my idea?

vital_signs · Post #57 » by **vital_signs** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:13 am

I look forward to the Knicks nabbing Mitchell and still sucking.

RHODEY · Post #58 » by **RHODEY** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:14 am

Quattro wrote:Randle, Rose and a bunch of heavily protected FRPs for Durant? Sure. Brooklyn will be tripping over themselves to make that deal.

Why is there MSG real estate in your head? It shouldn't matter to you since we all know KD doesn't want to play with your squad. With or without Mitchell or KD the KNICKS>Raptors. :nod:

KodiakBear · Post #59 » by **KodiakBear** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:34 am

dautjazz wrote:Durant wouldn't want to play with a Knicks team that only has RJ and Brunson lol, and I doubt the Nets are interested in Randle.

According a Jazz radio host, a trade has already been agreed on, not sure what is the hold up, maybe there multiple teams. A few other sports people in Utah have confirmed they received the txt messages related to the trade.

Patrick kinahan said that. He is literally the dumbest and most annoying sports media figure in the country. His show is filled with bad jokes and even worse sports takes. I hate how it is trendy for people to call everything cringe now, but Patrick kinahan is the definition of cringe.

KodiakBear · Post #60 » by **KodiakBear** » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:36 am

The knicks arent getting durant. If he is trying to force his way off a team with 2 all stars he isnt going to be happy on the knicks