If you were Jaylen Brown..

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Re: If you were Jaylen Brown.. 

Post#41 » by Bill Bradley » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:08 pm

To be honest, since he’s been in Boston he’s kind of been treated like a stepchild, getting crapped on from Smart early on, struggling to get minutes, taking a while to be put in the starting line up, and always being second fiddle to Tatum the golden child. I don’t think Brad views him as highly as he deserves. And even in this post, those bagging on him the most are Celtics fans. If I were Jaylen, while I would want to maximize my earnings, I would also consider other options when the time comes.
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Post#42 » by FrodoFraggins » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:16 pm

rapluva wrote:This is a what are you thinking if you were Jaylen Brown situation..

You just showed the world that when Tatum got shut down in the finals, how you carried the Celtics in all those games, and now the franchise is thinking of trading you for a Kevin Durant.

How do you react, no matter how much of a pro you can pretend to be, you are still human and this would sting a bit. How do you think you will perform if the trade does not go through. As a Raptor fan I know what this feels like a bit, we had Tracy and Vince in their prime and TMac thought he could get out of VCs shadow and do his own thing and yes he was right..But..Raptor fans still think back to and wonder what if..TMac signed back with the Raptors..could they have won it all.. I think this is exactly what Brown and Tatum will go through soon. Jaylen may want to do his own thing buy never win a championship while doing so. What would you do, how would you perform knowing the franchise is thinking of trading him?


They are key pieces of information that makes it impossible to accurately judge. What if the C's brass has spoken with JB and/or his agent and they've stated he 100% wants to test free agency in two years? And that he can not make a commitment to the team. Does that change the situation for both sides?
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Post#43 » by sam_I_am » Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:04 pm

I have no idea how JB feels personally and how he will feel in 2 years if he is a free agent. He may silently feel disrespected and then just leave for a place he would rather live.

From a business standpoint, he does not want to be traded and he wants to stay in Boston right now and try to earn at least 3rd team all NBA. In that way he can get maximum money possible. I’m sure professionally he wants to stay and win a title too. After that, he can try to force his way out like Simmons and KD if he wants (assuming it’s still possible).
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#44 » by ForeverTFC » Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:59 pm

pipfan wrote:If I were JB, I would feel VERY fortunate that I get paid $30 million to play basketball. Also, I would be working on my handles.

But, they are human beings who have feelings, and many of these athletes have been so pampered throughout life that they don't have a normal sense of self-awareness. Of course, he might feel "hurt" that his name has come up, but MANY HoF players have been traded and almost every player has had their name in the rumors, so it's part of the job.


This idea that athletes are pampered and privileged is so stupid. Becoming a professional athlete and climbing the ranks is all based on merit. They’ve earned what they have. They still get to be human being despite what they earn.
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Post#45 » by Ballerhogger » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:13 pm

Imagine he will do his best to get supermax deal from boston or anywhere he wants to go.
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Post#46 » by Synciere » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:48 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Ainge gave him an extension that's close to a rookie max when Jaylen was coming off a 13-4-1.4 season as a bench player. At that point, Jaylen wasn't just a below average 3 point shooter. He was shooting 60 something from the free throw line as a guard. 4/107 was a gamble on Ainge's part.


No he didn't.

His max was near 5/170, and his more likely max was closer to 4/130, so no, he didn't. At Ainge started at 4/80 and severely lowballed him to the point people were discussing whether he should take the QO\. And consensus was 4/80 was stupid low.

And anyone that thought 4/107 wasn't low was wrong too.

But keep defending Danny Ainge for god knows what reason.

A 3rd overall pick averaging 13-4-1.4 with .658 FT% and .344 3P% in his 3rd season is closer to being a bust than a max player.
Below average efficiency, below average free throw rate, and 1 to 1 assist to turnover ratio. Jaylen in his 3rd season couldn't beat out Marcus Morris and Smart to get a starting gig.
4/107 was a bold move by Ainge that worked out, and Jaylen not being dumb took the extension instead of "betting on himself" given the results in his first three seasons.
Marvin Bagley's production in his 3rd season was 11-7-1. You tell me if Jaylen's 13-4-1.4 was a max-level production.


Damn. Feel like I’m staring into RJ Barrett’s future negotiations. Hopefully he makes the same leap Jaylen did.

To answer the OP’s question though, being mentioned in a trade for KD is not some form of disrespect. I wouldn’t feel any sort of way except if the organization has previously said I’m off the table in ANY situation. I don’t see that as a likely occurrence, so it’s just business. Now if they were talking about trading me for (insert scrub player here), that’d be different.
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Re: If you were Jaylen Brown.. 

Post#47 » by BK_2020 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:40 pm

Synciere wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
No he didn't.

His max was near 5/170, and his more likely max was closer to 4/130, so no, he didn't. At Ainge started at 4/80 and severely lowballed him to the point people were discussing whether he should take the QO\. And consensus was 4/80 was stupid low.

And anyone that thought 4/107 wasn't low was wrong too.

But keep defending Danny Ainge for god knows what reason.

A 3rd overall pick averaging 13-4-1.4 with .658 FT% and .344 3P% in his 3rd season is closer to being a bust than a max player.
Below average efficiency, below average free throw rate, and 1 to 1 assist to turnover ratio. Jaylen in his 3rd season couldn't beat out Marcus Morris and Smart to get a starting gig.
4/107 was a bold move by Ainge that worked out, and Jaylen not being dumb took the extension instead of "betting on himself" given the results in his first three seasons.
Marvin Bagley's production in his 3rd season was 11-7-1. You tell me if Jaylen's 13-4-1.4 was a max-level production.


Damn. Feel like I’m staring into RJ Barrett’s future negotiations.

RJ Barrett is 22 years and 61 days old and is coming off a 20-5-3 season. His situation is not similar to Jaylen's 4th season at all.
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Post#48 » by BK_2020 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:41 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:Imagine he will do his best to get supermax deal from boston or anywhere he wants to go.

Supermax not available to players that change teams.
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Post#49 » by JB2 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:57 pm

I'd be annoyed but gladly to return as a Celtic knowing this is a part of the business and they can get to the finals again.. but I'd also be happy to go to BK and have my own team. That $30M+ is a nice way to not feel too down.
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Post#50 » by BK_2020 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:58 pm

JB2 wrote:I'd be annoyed but gladly to return as a Celtic knowing this is a part of the business and they can get to the finals again.. but I'd also be happy to go to BK and have my own team. That $30M+ is a nice way to not feel too down.

How the heck is Jaylen Brown going to have his "own team" in Brooklyn lmao. You think Kyrie will step aside for a 23 ppg scorer on average efficiency who can't dribble?
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Post#51 » by JB2 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:05 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
JB2 wrote:I'd be annoyed but gladly to return as a Celtic knowing this is a part of the business and they can get to the finals again.. but I'd also be happy to go to BK and have my own team. That $30M+ is a nice way to not feel too down.

How the heck is Jaylen Brown going to have his "own team" in Brooklyn lmao. You think Kyrie will step aside for a 23 ppg scorer on average efficiency who can't dribble?


I don't think Kyrie is there if KD isn't so the premise of your post isn't relative.
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Post#52 » by BK_2020 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:09 pm

JB2 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
JB2 wrote:I'd be annoyed but gladly to return as a Celtic knowing this is a part of the business and they can get to the finals again.. but I'd also be happy to go to BK and have my own team. That $30M+ is a nice way to not feel too down.

How the heck is Jaylen Brown going to have his "own team" in Brooklyn lmao. You think Kyrie will step aside for a 23 ppg scorer on average efficiency who can't dribble?


I don't think Kyrie is there if KD isn't so the premise of your post isn't relative.

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Post#53 » by holdenwait » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:38 pm

if I was him I'd challenge Tatum's A1 status and push him to the edge while tryin to also win games so not go selfish to the degree of self destruct.
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Post#54 » by Ruma85 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:41 pm

rapluva wrote:This is a what are you thinking if you were Jaylen Brown situation..

You just showed the world that when Tatum got shut down in the finals, how you carried the Celtics in all those games, and now the franchise is thinking of trading you for a Kevin Durant.

How do you react, no matter how much of a pro you can pretend to be, you are still human and this would sting a bit. How do you think you will perform if the trade does not go through. As a Raptor fan I know what this feels like a bit, we had Tracy and Vince in their prime and TMac thought he could get out of VCs shadow and do his own thing and yes he was right..But..Raptor fans still think back to and wonder what if..TMac signed back with the Raptors..could they have won it all.. I think this is exactly what Brown and Tatum will go through soon. Jaylen may want to do his own thing buy never win a championship while doing so. What would you do, how would you perform knowing the franchise is thinking of trading him?


If I were Jaylen Brown it wouldn’t affect me, if you want to trade me for one of the best players in the world, that’s just good business. Feelings tend to get affect over small things like this.
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Post#55 » by BK_2020 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:44 pm

holdenwait wrote:if I was him I'd challenge Tatum's A1 status and push him to the edge while tryin to also win games so not go selfish to the degree of self destruct.

Jaylen doesn't even take over games while Tatum takes a rest. Smart or White runs the offense. Jaylen's beta as ****, unless he's got a mismatch.
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Post#56 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:48 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
itrsteve wrote:I’m glad the consensus on JB on the GB has changed. When he signed his contract he was viewed as an overpaid Buddy Heild


Just no.

By one guy, a banned Nets fan. :roll:


Everdiso said he’s a role player who should be coming off the bench…..so there’s two at least.
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Post#57 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:52 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:Ainge gave him an extension that's close to a rookie max when Jaylen was coming off a 13-4-1.4 season as a bench player. At that point, Jaylen wasn't just a below average 3 point shooter. He was shooting 60 something from the free throw line as a guard. 4/107 was a gamble on Ainge's part.


No he didn't.

His max was near 5/170, and his more likely max was closer to 4/130, so no, he didn't. At Ainge started at 4/80 and severely lowballed him to the point people were discussing whether he should take the QO\. And consensus was 4/80 was stupid low.

And anyone that thought 4/107 wasn't low was wrong too.

But keep defending Danny Ainge for god knows what reason.

A 3rd overall pick averaging 13-4-1.4 with .658 FT% and .344 3P% in his 3rd season is closer to being a bust than a max player.
Below average efficiency, below average free throw rate, and 1 to 1 assist to turnover ratio. Jaylen in his 3rd season couldn't beat out Marcus Morris and Smart to get a starting gig.
4/107 was a bold move by Ainge that worked out, and Jaylen not being dumb took the extension instead of "betting on himself" given the results in his first three seasons.
Marvin Bagley's production in his 3rd season was 11-7-1. You tell me if Jaylen's 13-4-1.4 was a max-level production.


Thats unfair, everyone knew coming out he was extremely raw and was blocked for minutes. Everyone knew he’d be a starter halfway through year two though, people had more questions about Smart. Morris was also mostly a four at that point.
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Post#58 » by Woodsanity » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:54 pm

BK_2020 wrote:I would learn to dribble a basketball and play some defense.

Perfect textbook example of how Brown is treated by Celtics fans.

Tatum is vastly overrated by Celtics fans and Brown underrated. People act like Tatum is a superstar while Brown is barely an all star.

Sorry the gap isn't that big and Tatum isn't that guy and probably never will be.
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Post#59 » by BK_2020 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:56 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
No he didn't.

His max was near 5/170, and his more likely max was closer to 4/130, so no, he didn't. At Ainge started at 4/80 and severely lowballed him to the point people were discussing whether he should take the QO\. And consensus was 4/80 was stupid low.

And anyone that thought 4/107 wasn't low was wrong too.

But keep defending Danny Ainge for god knows what reason.

A 3rd overall pick averaging 13-4-1.4 with .658 FT% and .344 3P% in his 3rd season is closer to being a bust than a max player.
Below average efficiency, below average free throw rate, and 1 to 1 assist to turnover ratio. Jaylen in his 3rd season couldn't beat out Marcus Morris and Smart to get a starting gig.
4/107 was a bold move by Ainge that worked out, and Jaylen not being dumb took the extension instead of "betting on himself" given the results in his first three seasons.
Marvin Bagley's production in his 3rd season was 11-7-1. You tell me if Jaylen's 13-4-1.4 was a max-level production.


Thats unfair, everyone knew coming out he was extremely raw and was blocked for minutes. Everyone knew he’d be a starter halfway through year two though, people had more questions about Smart. Morris was also mostly a four at that point.

How was he blocked? He started all 70 games his second season. Brad sat him back down on the bench because he sucked.
Extending him was the right move and I thought so at the time, but people need to stop saying Jaylen got done wrong because the Celtics handed him a $100 mil. with 3 years of draft bust track record.
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Re: If you were Jaylen Brown.. 

Post#60 » by Darth Celtic » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:02 pm

Woodsanity wrote:
BK_2020 wrote:I would learn to dribble a basketball and play some defense.

Perfect textbook example of how Brown is treated by Celtics fans.

Tatum is vastly overrated by Celtics fans and Brown underrated. People act like Tatum is a superstar while Brown is barely an all star.

Sorry the gap isn't that big and Tatum isn't that guy and probably never will be.


Yeah, because Tatum, a year younger didn't just make FIRST team all NBA while brown didn't even make the all star game as injury replacement. Ok
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