The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp.

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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#41 » by Ruma85 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:27 am

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Pacers would be making a horrible trade. Horrible.


Why is that??


Only a Lakers fan would think Myles Turner is worth a first round pick in 2027. Ridiculous.


How much is he worth, Because they have been trying to trade him for years.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#42 » by whatisacenter » Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:41 am

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Why any team would take Westbrook is beyond me.


It's real simple, cap relief. :crazy:


what team is looking for cap relief right now? usually a team that is making cap room is doing it for a big FA and nobody is doing that right now. Is there a team sitting on a bad contract for a player that would help the Lakers? I guess you could go with Mike Conley in Utah maybe but he makes less over two years than Westbrook does next season. I still think it will take a FRP from the Lakers to move him.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#43 » by Johnny Bball » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:25 am

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Why any team would take Westbrook is beyond me.


It's real simple, cap relief. :crazy:


what team is looking for cap relief right now? usually a team that is making cap room is doing it for a big FA and nobody is doing that right now. Is there a team sitting on a bad contract for a player that would help the Lakers? I guess you could go with Mike Conley in Utah maybe but he makes less over two years than Westbrook does next season. I still think it will take a FRP from the Lakers to move him.


Lei just gave them to you. Indy, orl, Utah, Charlotte and more will appear by the deadline. Knicks with randle. All have multi year deals they want out of, where as the Lakers will overpay these players and be better off for it.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#44 » by LAL1947 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:03 am

Lost Angel wrote:if the Lakers can convince the Pacers to take only 1 first round pick for Hield/Turner then they’re going to have a nice squad.

Turner/Bryant/Jones
Davis/Jones/Gabriel
LeBron/Reaves
Hield/Walker
Beverly/Nunn

That’s not bad at all

Or... the Lakers could swap Westbrook and picks for SGA. OKC gets to reunite with Westbrook, MR. OKC... and we know they love picks. LAL gets a proper young star that is worth giving up picks for, and who can take over once Lebron is done. :D
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#45 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:08 am

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Pacers would be making a horrible trade. Horrible.


Why is that??


Because Turner by himself is worth 1-2 firsts with the current overpay market. Better ones than the Lakers have, without taking on 45 million per year with Russ.


The Pacers have been trying to trade him for the last 18 months. Every season he plays less games than the year before. Down 48 games 2 years ago and 42 games last year.

If they would have gotten an offer of multiple firsts for him, he would have long been traded by now. But that’s not remotely his value in the market.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#46 » by Slava » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:53 am

Could have got Pat Bev a month before and Russ might have opted out. Thanks Pelinka!
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#47 » by basketballRob » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:57 am

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Ruma85 wrote:
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Pacers would be making a horrible trade. Horrible.


Why is that??


Because Turner by himself is worth 1-2 firsts with the current overpay market. Better ones than the Lakers have, without taking on 45 million per year with Russ.
They'd also be taking Heild's contract which is due $19M next season. They're probably motivated to move him to make room for Mathurin and Haliburton.

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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#48 » by basketballRob » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:00 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Ruma85 wrote:
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Pacers would be making a horrible trade. Horrible.


Why is that??


Only a Lakers fan would think Myles Turner is worth a first round pick in 2027. Ridiculous.
You don't think Turner is worth a #1 pick?

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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#49 » by basketballRob » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:05 am

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It's real simple, cap relief. :crazy:


what team is looking for cap relief right now? usually a team that is making cap room is doing it for a big FA and nobody is doing that right now. Is there a team sitting on a bad contract for a player that would help the Lakers? I guess you could go with Mike Conley in Utah maybe but he makes less over two years than Westbrook does next season. I still think it will take a FRP from the Lakers to move him.


Lei just gave them to you. Indy, orl, Utah, Charlotte and more will appear by the deadline. Knicks with randle. All have multi year deals they want out of, where as the Lakers will overpay these players and be better off for it.
Orlando won't be trading for Westbrook. I could see a team like Charlotte that has a couple of bad contracts in Rozier and Hayward but would the Lakers sacrifice their 2023 cap space for them?

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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#50 » by JN61 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:14 am

The blind media is desperate to push Westbrook off the team in their desperate attempt to shut out outside noise of the real facts. Lakers haven't been good on LeBron era or before it. With LeBron they have missed playoffs twice and first round exit once.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#51 » by Stalwart » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:18 am

Its really unfortunate what Lebrons fans and the media will do to someone's reputation. They turned Westbrook into a pariah. They're slowly doing it to AD as well if you notice.

Its really kinda sickening to watch.
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Post#52 » by Goomba3666 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:21 am

I don't think Westbrook is a good fit with the Lakers, but he's definitely not the reason for their failures. Neither was Vogel.

I personally think he should try to escape for the sake of his career. Media has been doing whatever it can to prematurely end it via their scapegoating campaign.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#53 » by Goomba3666 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:23 am

Stalwart wrote:Its really unfortunate what Lebrons fans and the media will do to someone's reputation. They turned Westbrook into a pariah. They're slowly doing it to AD as well if you notice.

Its really kinda sickening to watch.


A few media shows are already laying the groundwork to do the same thing to Kyrie. Already calling him "less toxic" than Westbrook and underhanded compliments like that. Media will eviscerate Kyrie worse than Westbrook.

There's NO WAY Kyrie doesn't see this along with other players in the league.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#54 » by JN61 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:24 am

Stalwart wrote:Its really unfortunate what Lebrons fans and the media will do to someone's reputation. They turned Westbrook into a pariah. They're slowly doing it to AD as well if you notice.

Its really kinda sickening to watch.

Lebron might be the only player in NBA history where media and his fans are viciously blaming everyone around him and never point the leader and supposedly the best player on the team. He is never wrong or never in fault. It's the supposedly 3rd wheel who makes Lakers unable to compete at all to the point that waving him would make Lakers championship contenders per these people.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#55 » by michaelm » Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:47 am

marson wrote:It's really gonna be awkward between him and Russ. The animosity is too much on what happened between them over the years.

I don't care what anyone says but this one is still a dirty play in my book and it's not like Pat Bev didn't do other players dirty too.


I am far from the greatest admirer of latter day Westbrook, but he was a great player when he had the athleticism of his youth, his problem imo has signifcantly been related to him continuing to play as if still possessed of same. Of course he would not want to play with the guy who took that away from him, and if he retires remembered as Westrbrick rather than who he once was that will be at least to an extent unjust imo.

I thought it might not be a bad plan for the Lakers to sign him, perhaps with a view to him carrying the team to the play-offs as he had done recently with the Wizards and previously with the post Durant Thunder. In retrospect I should have known that one ball was insufficient for both him and LeBron. Lebron should have known this as well though, however great his talents in general, roster construction does not number among them.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#56 » by Johnny Bball » Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:02 am

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what team is looking for cap relief right now? usually a team that is making cap room is doing it for a big FA and nobody is doing that right now. Is there a team sitting on a bad contract for a player that would help the Lakers? I guess you could go with Mike Conley in Utah maybe but he makes less over two years than Westbrook does next season. I still think it will take a FRP from the Lakers to move him.


Lei just gave them to you. Indy, orl, Utah, Charlotte and more will appear by the deadline. Knicks with randle. All have multi year deals they want out of, where as the Lakers will overpay these players and be better off for it.
Orlando won't be trading for Westbrook. I could see a team like Charlotte that has a couple of bad contracts in Rozier and Hayward but would the Lakers sacrifice their 2023 cap space for them?

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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#58 » by Onus » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:43 pm

this is so cold. A few months ago Bev is running around an NBA court holding his noise and yelling that Westbrook stinks and is trash. And now the Lakers bring him in to replace Westbrook.

HHAHAAHA wow

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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#59 » by Kilo » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:55 pm

To Detroit for Olynyk, Burks, Joseph and Kemba Walker.

Burks can't be traded in a package until September 8th. Detroit inexplicably hasn't bought out Walker yet either. Also #5 OA pick Jaden Ivey was recently photographed training with Westbrook. Also Pistons GM Weaver was with OKC when Westbrook was there.

Olynyk has a 2M buyout next season, Joseph is expiring this year, Burks has a 11M TO and Walker is expiring.

All are wily veteran depth guys that Lakers would love to add to their bench.
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Re: The Athletic: Westbrook not likely to be on the Lakers by training camp. 

Post#60 » by lonzo_pelota » Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:00 pm

no way they let 47million of salary cap sit at home unless westbrook quit on us.

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