Iguodala on white players: It ain't too many of ya'll that are really good

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Re: Iguodala on white players: It ain't too many of ya'll that are really good 

Post#41 » by Big J » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:26 am

Brotha ain't lyin'.
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Post#42 » by HotRocks34 » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:28 am

Yeah. Here's a Ring Magazine list of the top heavyweight boxers in 1990. Blue colored are black Americans. Compare this with the list I posted above (just 2/10 are black Americans).

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_1990

Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson

Razor Ruddock................................Canada
James (Buster) Douglas
Tim Witherspoon
Carl Williams

Francesco Damiani...........................Italy
Riddick Bowe
Ray Mercer
George Foreman


8/10.

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Post#43 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:28 am

Bulliever2020 wrote:In other news, water is wet

Fake news
Water is not actually wet. It’s a liquid that makes a dry solid surface wet when it touches it. :wink:

Random white tennis player / golfer / swimmer on random black tennis player / golfer / swimmer ….
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Post#44 » by maxwellcu » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:32 am

It's funny to me when people think that double standards lead to anything other than vicious circles.
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Post#45 » by Sedale Threatt » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:33 am

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"For some reason, that always bothered me when I was playing against a white guy. As far as playing, I didn’t care who guarded me — red, yellow, black. I just didn’t want a white guy guarding me. Because it’s disrespect to my game."

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Post#46 » by WESCO » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:35 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:He’s right/it’s not that deep but I’m sure we’ll be getting some White Lives Matter activists in here to tell me that’s racist.


Trump supporters?

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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:He’s right/it’s not that deep but I’m sure we’ll be getting some White Lives Matter activists in here to tell me that’s racist.


Trump supporters?

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I was thinking Kanye and Candace Owens.
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Post#48 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:40 am

I'm not getting into everyone's agenda on this, but it feels like someone needs to point out DDV is not remotely one of the top white players in the league. This is mostly a guy pumping up a teammate but because he's Iggy he's got to do in the dumbest way possible.
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Post#49 » by orlando_joe » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:40 am

same reason not alot of black hockey players...will leave it at that ..
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Post#50 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:44 am

orlando_joe wrote:same reason not alot of black hockey players...will leave it at that ..


Don’t think so. TON of white basketball players that grow up playing it, and even in the college ranks. In Hockey it seems like most of black community just doesn’t play it period. So not really similar IMO. Baseball maybe would be more relatable than Hockey, but even then lots of great black players relative to NBA.
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Post#51 » by Haldi » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:45 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:He’s right/it’s not that deep but I’m sure we’ll be getting some White Lives Matter activists in here to tell me that’s racist.


Na, it would only be racist if lets say a white hockey player said the exact same thing towards black people playing hockey… right? At least I think that’s how it goes around here…

Hint: neither would be racist whatsoever and just be true statements, but I’m sure all the BLM here will disagree and say only my version is racist just because
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Post#52 » by Mavrelous » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:47 am

DDV Iggy? Really? If I was Nico Mannion I'd take offense.
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Post#53 » by whatisacenter » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:49 am

got to love american white people complaining about a double standard when there is, you know......a couple of hundred of years of slavery and racism they didn't have to deal with.
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Post#54 » by Mr Puddles » Wed Oct 5, 2022 12:58 am

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Post#55 » by RoyceDa59 » Wed Oct 5, 2022 1:00 am

The man ain’t wrong. Nothing offensive about the truth in life.

I’m assuming he’s referring to white American players. Those euro whites are elite.
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Post#56 » by Pelon chingon » Wed Oct 5, 2022 1:02 am

whatisacenter wrote:got to love american white people complaining about a double standard when there is, you know......a couple of hundred of years of slavery and racism they didn't have to deal with.


Black people aren't the only group to be enslaved throughout history. Time to move on already.
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Post#57 » by Black Jack » Wed Oct 5, 2022 1:08 am

Chronz wrote:Whenever I see/hear anything(particularly a critique) about "white" folks, I always take it to mean they're talking about US born whites, aka "foundational whites".

They look at international players differently, under a different context.

While its almost impossible to have a discussion about race without some mental midgets screaming racism, the disappearance of the US born white player is interesting. You'll hear stories from players abroad about how rough their areas/lives were growing up, how in their despair they found basketball and clung to it as a form of a escapism. Maybe US whites dont face the same desperation to escape their lives, and the ones that do, aren't interested in hoops and play other sports. Maybe you need that hyper intense desire to hoop in order to make up for the lack of athletic talents of their more melanated counterparts lol, I gotta be careful with what I say here, this place really isn't made for more than talking ball. Dont want to get too deep into this, not before I see where people dip their toes.


Foundational...Tariq Nasheed check 8-)

I don't think its the poverty. Look at Luka he's from a rich family. It's that around the time of Jordan white Americans just gave up hope of competing. back in the 80s, early 90s with Bird / McHale / Stockton types white dudes came into the league with confidence they could be the best. Now I don't see that from Foundational White Americans ( 8-) 8-) 8-) ). I do see it from euro white dudes like Luka or Jokic.
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Post#58 » by Black Jack » Wed Oct 5, 2022 1:09 am

Pelon chingon wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:got to love american white people complaining about a double standard when there is, you know......a couple of hundred of years of slavery and racism they didn't have to deal with.


Black people aren't the only group to be enslaved throughout history. Time to move on already.


Why when we never got reparations due to us but everyone else does?

Holocaust slogan is literally "never forget" but we're supposed to forget when we weren't even legally equal until 1965 and still face all types of racial terrorism.
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Post#59 » by SpreeChokeJob » Wed Oct 5, 2022 1:13 am

Texas Chuck wrote:I'm not getting into everyone's agenda on this, but it feels like someone needs to point out DDV is not remotely one of the top white players in the league. This is mostly a guy pumping up a teammate but because he's Iggy he's got to do in the dumbest way possible.

Love Iguodala the player, but he says some really dumb things sometimes and other times he’s pretty smart. Was nonstop joke complaining about being underpaid last year. If he was paid what he was thought he was worth he would have been severely overpaid. He was fairly compensated to be a part time vet presence.
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Post#60 » by DaPessimist » Wed Oct 5, 2022 1:14 am

Just look at the %'s. It's pretty clear that black people excel at the sport.

In my experience playing competitive basketball (HS prep and College), white players have to constantly prove we belong. I never felt like it was racist or discriminatory, it was simply the reality of being a minority in the sport. If you're an outlier, people are always going to want you to prove yourself.

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