What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend?

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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#41 » by Pokuokic » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:26 am

Kyrie nearly losses his career over sharing a video and a literal pedophile rapes a child and is celebrated by the NBA amazing
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Post#42 » by zimpy27 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:39 am

Anyone else find it weird that people keep mentioning the impregnating part. The sex was the bad part

The impregnating part is actually the complicated part because a child has been born that probably suffers when people constantly refer to it publicly.

Karl Malone seems like an awful person. I feel bad about this public discourse though because you now have a mother and son existing from his actions that have to suffer through something they've forgiven.
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Post#43 » by michaelm » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:17 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Anyone else find it weird that people keep mentioning the impregnating part. The sex was the bad part

The impregnating part is actually the complicated part because a child has been born that probably suffers when people constantly refer to it publicly.

Karl Malone seems like an awful person. I feel bad about this public discourse though because you now have a mother and son existing from his actions that have to suffer through something they've forgiven.

Agree it doesn’t help the woman or son who have moved on 35 odd years later.

A 12 year girl becoming a 12 year old mother is hardly a consequence which couldn’t be anticipated though.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#44 » by Duffman100 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:23 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Anyone else find it weird that people keep mentioning the impregnating part. The sex was the bad part

The impregnating part is actually the complicated part because a child has been born that probably suffers when people constantly refer to it publicly.

Karl Malone seems like an awful person. I feel bad about this public discourse though because you now have a mother and son existing from his actions that have to suffer through something they've forgiven.


Mentioning the impregnation is grouping together the sex and the pregnancy. And it’s mentioned because for how long he denied paternity and child support.

I don’t feel bad about anyone who has sex with a 12 year old when they’re 18/19. When I was in grade 12 or first year university, I didn’t look at grade 6/7 sexually.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#45 » by zimpy27 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:27 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:Anyone else find it weird that people keep mentioning the impregnating part. The sex was the bad part

The impregnating part is actually the complicated part because a child has been born that probably suffers when people constantly refer to it publicly.

Karl Malone seems like an awful person. I feel bad about this public discourse though because you now have a mother and son existing from his actions that have to suffer through something they've forgiven.


Mentioning the impregnation is grouping together the sex and the pregnancy. And it’s mentioned because for how long he denied paternity and child support.

I don’t feel bad about anyone who has sex with a 12 year old when they’re 18/19. When I was in grade 12 or first year university, I didn’t look at grade 6/7 sexually.


You may have misconstrued what I wrote.

I'm happy for Malone to take flak, I think he deserves criticism. I don't think the mother and child need to be involved in that criticism. That's all.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#46 » by GreenBloodedC » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:43 pm

LOL at simply equating not wanting to give a platform to a rapist to cancel culture :lol:

And actually defending that rapist :lol:
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Post#47 » by Optms » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:53 pm

Hobo4President wrote:
baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.


He impregnated a child


This happened so long ago who really cares. That child is now a grown woman older than many of us. And that baby is also now older many of us too.

Not defending him. But I have too much in my life to care about something that happened eons go. I've known about this Karl Malone thing since I was a kid. I'm not about to pretend to get upset about it 20 years later.
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Post#48 » by Ugly0598 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:54 pm

Should have talked to John instead
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Post#49 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:57 pm

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Post#50 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:59 pm

20 year olds aren't all that smart yet. He's near 60 and you would hope he's learned his lesson and has changed.

Usually its after they have done their time you could say someone paid their price. And as much as it's abhorrent, there should be some statute of limitations on always bringing this up 40 later. I would hope he eventually helped that child. If he hasn't, then that's where he's more still fair game to me.
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Post#51 » by breezypeezy » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:00 pm

Where was this (Malones actions) originally reported?
Its weird I never heard about it before this thread.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#52 » by Mavrelous » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:15 pm

I don't condone what Malone did, and the NBA shouldn't have glorified him, he neglected her and declined to take responsibility of the situation, until he was forced to through the threat of a trial, and many stories around him say he's not a good person in general, but a consensual relationship, between a 20 y/o and 13 y/o post puberty in a rural, poor and agricultural community in the early 80s, isn't similar to a college kid having sex with middle school girl in 2020s in urban America, account for that when you get outraged, marrying early puberty girls was and in many parts of the world still is a cultural norm in most societies before urbanization.
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Post#53 » by Ugalde » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:32 pm

reminds me of fox sports, shannon sharpe, and skip bayless, always pretending they so woke and then having mike vick on their show.

like don’t say something controversial we will cancel you for that. but if you drown dogs, electrocute them, hang them from a tree, or feed house pets to fighting dogs for practice, we can forgive that. just don’t say the wrong word while you do it.
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Post#54 » by Myth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:43 pm

breezypeezy wrote:Where was this (Malones actions) originally reported?
Its weird I never heard about it before this thread.

I'm not sure if that is sarcasm or not given how often I've read about it. I feel like the Malone stuff was one of the first horrible NBA things I learned about when I got the internet, so I couldn't say where it was first reported since that was so long ago.
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Post#55 » by Jadoogar » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:47 pm

baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.


like the famous saying goes, "let he who has not impregnated a 13 year old cast the first stone"
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Post#56 » by LascelleL » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:49 pm

Someone said that the NBA included him because the conversation around WHY he wouldn't be there would be bigger than if they included him.

**** Karl Malone.
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Post#57 » by Jadoogar » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:51 pm

Optms wrote:
Hobo4President wrote:
baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.


He impregnated a child


This happened so long ago who really cares. That child is now a grown woman older than many of us. And that baby is also now older many of us too.

Not defending him. But I have too much in my life to care about something that happened eons go. I've known about this Karl Malone thing since I was a kid. I'm not about to pretend to get upset about it 20 years later.


people aren't sitting around and discussing it with no reason. But when he is invited and honoured by NBA, you don't think it's fair that it's brought up on an NBA board?
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Post#58 » by PD28 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:54 pm

Optms wrote:
Hobo4President wrote:
baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.


He impregnated a child


This happened so long ago who really cares. That child is now a grown woman older than many of us. And that baby is also now older many of us too.

Not defending him. But I have too much in my life to care about something that happened eons go. I've known about this Karl Malone thing since I was a kid. I'm not about to pretend to get upset about it 20 years later.


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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#59 » by Snakebites » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:55 pm

Morally speaking Malone should not be a participant in any NBA events and should not be honored. It’s a little saddening to see this isn’t a consensus. I can have my disagreements with the anti-woke crowd but it’s ever-more shocking who they’re willing to defend.

For the league, morals unfortunately have nothing to do with it. I wish this was different but we’ve seen that it isn’t.

The NBA performs progressivism and social justice. Many players and even league executives likely believe in those causes, but it’s not the main reason the league supports them. They support BLM because the players wanted it and they decided it would enhance the brand. Their charity work is done for the same reason. Instances like this prove that they’ve never done any of it because it’s the “right” thing to do. It’s good for the brand.

In this case while Karl Malone’s terrible acts are widely known in internet/hardcore fans circles I’d guess the vast majority of the fandom know little to nothing about it and haven’t been paying attention. As a result there isn’t a big enough backlash against Malone, and the marketing benefit of having him there exceeds the blowback they’d get. “What’s right” doesn’t factor into it.

It’s an uncomfortable truth about the league we all follow. The only solution is to raise awareness.
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Post#60 » by Fo-Real » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:11 pm

LOL at the VERY LATE outrage!! This has been FACT for almost 40 years. Never condone what he did, he was despicable for how he basically abandoned them but for you people who freak out over **** like this, you should not look up what rock stars, actors, and famous people of that era FACTUALLY got caught doing with documented underage girls and boys and a good number of todays famed idiots. Your whole fame structure would be destroyed. Names the likes of Elvis, Bowie, Steven Tyler. Stars like Don Johnson, Woody Allen etc, the list is huge. Not condoning, just laughing at the outrage when there are CRAZY stories about SCORES of these people.

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