More exciting young phenom Alcaraz, Bellingham or Wembanyama

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Carlos Alcaraz
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Jude Bellingham
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Victor Wembanyama
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Post#41 » by The-Power » Wed Nov 1, 2023 4:16 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Yeah it’s a basketball board so surprise the poll results. Wemby is fast becoming overrated imo. The kid has to develop properly. The other two are already best in the world at their sports, it’s a big difference

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Post#42 » by cgf » Wed Nov 1, 2023 4:44 pm

Who cares about Jude when Florian Wirtz is fit again?

...now we just need Musiala to get back into the form he was in the first half of last season and we might just outscore teams at the euros!
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Re: More exciting young phenom Alcaraz, Bellingham or Wembanyama 

Post#43 » by Felixians4 » Wed Nov 1, 2023 6:24 pm

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Post#44 » by EasternHeretic » Thu Nov 2, 2023 10:45 pm

cgf wrote:Who cares about Jude when Florian Wirtz is fit again?

...now we just need Musiala to get back into the form he was in the first half of last season and we might just outscore teams at the euros!

Are we seeing a new gen of German wunderkids
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Post#45 » by cgf » Thu Nov 2, 2023 11:06 pm

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cgf wrote:Who cares about Jude when Florian Wirtz is fit again?

...now we just need Musiala to get back into the form he was in the first half of last season and we might just outscore teams at the euros!

Are we seeing a new gen of German wunderkids


Sorta? The U17 and U21 teams have won titles recently...with the U17 team being amongst the favorites to win the WC that starts next week...and there's a ton of talented creatives/attackers in the pipeline; so much so that we're already losing really talented prospects like Samardzic (Serbia) & Wanner (Austria) to the other NTs they are eligible to represent...but there's a lot less depth further back.

There are some very promising young German defensive midfielders and defenders developing at the senior level...kids like Martel, Schlotterbeck, Thiaw, Morgalla, Netz, etc. look like they could be quality starters for the NT in their primes...but there isn't nearly the same depth that there is further forward, and none of them are as exceptionally talented as Musiala, Wirtz, Moukoko, & Brunner.

So jein :lol:


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It's funny how NTs can be. Despite our defense being such a big concern that nobody should be shocked if we got bounced in the group stages again; we're so deep in the creative areas that a player like Kimmich can be stapled to our bench even though he would likely start for any other NT...even France's, in place of Rabiot*...and a guy like Gnabry can fall entirely out of the picture.

Shame we can't just trade some of our creative depth for a few of those young French defenders because looking at the youth teams the picture is much the same :lol: Our list of exciting young attackers & creatives is more than twice as long as the list of exciting defensive prospects.


*at least until Warren Zaire Emery is ready to take over, because that kid is just insanely talented. He might be their best prospect since Mbappe, despite how well kids like Tel, Doue, Cherki, & Barcola are doing.
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Post#46 » by azcatz11 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 5:00 pm

Bump since French open is going on. My vote is tie for Alcaraz and Wemby. The way alcaraz dismantled FAA who’s playing unbelievable is insane. I think Alcaraz will be the goat
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Post#47 » by Hellcrooner » Sun Jun 2, 2024 5:38 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Bump since French open is going on. My vote is tie for Alcaraz and Wemby. The way alcaraz dismantled FAA who’s playing unbelievable is insane. I think Alcaraz will be the goat


he is a million miles away to win as many Gs as Federer/nadal/antivac terraplanist.

not likely.

specially since he is been crap ever since wining wimbledon.
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Post#48 » by Rust_Cohle » Sun Jun 2, 2024 5:59 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Bump since French open is going on. My vote is tie for Alcaraz and Wemby. The way alcaraz dismantled FAA who’s playing unbelievable is insane. I think Alcaraz will be the goat


No way, FAA dismantling happens a lot more often than you think, not just by Carlos.

He fell off very hard since Wimbledon last year, his GOAT window may be done with Sinner being the better player. Carlos would need to go up 10 levels to have a shot at that many GS but he has yet to reach even half the heights he hit the first half of last year.

He’s young and lots of potential but his injury record is very worrisome and Sinner has emerged as the golden boy over Carlos. Neither will get to 20 slams but both young players are very good.
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Post#49 » by Rust_Cohle » Sun Jun 2, 2024 5:59 pm

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azcatz11 wrote:Bump since French open is going on. My vote is tie for Alcaraz and Wemby. The way alcaraz dismantled FAA who’s playing unbelievable is insane. I think Alcaraz will be the goat


he is a million miles away to win as many Gs as Federer/nadal/antivac terraplanist.

not likely.

specially since he is been crap ever since wining wimbledon.


Djokovic >>> Federer and nadal and both those players will tell you the same thing.
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Post#50 » by BarbaGrizz » Sun Jun 2, 2024 7:06 pm

hickfromfrenchlick wrote:Are Bellingham and Alcaraz doing things nobody has done before?

Wemby’s got the lowest floor — he hasn’t actually accomplished anything —but he’s also got the highest ceiling because he’s doing stuff in games that shouldn’t be possible from a 7’3” guy. If he stays healthy and gets stronger, the sky is the limit.


This. Alcaraz and Jude are awesome, but Wemby is reality-bending level
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Post#51 » by Mavrelous » Sun Jun 2, 2024 7:07 pm

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Post#52 » by Apz » Sun Jun 2, 2024 7:38 pm

Dont follow tennis last like 20 years. Alcaraz as talented as Björn Borg was?
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Post#53 » by Astaluego » Sun Jun 2, 2024 7:57 pm

Jude? Don't **** with me, I voted VW but you forgot the best...tadej Pogacar, incredibly talented Slovenians being such a small country
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Post#54 » by sikma42 » Sun Jun 2, 2024 8:11 pm

Feel like we’ve seen guys like Bellingham and Alcaraz. Bc of that it’s Wemby. It’s more exciting bc nobody knows what to expect or what his ceiling is.


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Post#55 » by Rust_Cohle » Sun Jun 2, 2024 8:28 pm

Apz wrote:Dont follow tennis last like 20 years. Alcaraz as talented as Björn Borg was?


Eh, remains to be seen. He had a very hot start but the pressure coupled with injuries seems to have gotten to him since an amazing Wimbledon. Hype was far greater a year ago
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Post#56 » by Lalouie » Sun Jun 2, 2024 8:32 pm

you can see the future of tennis prodigies early. if they are great, they stay great

basketball greatness has to wait until some rings are won, but if they are truly great early they make a difference to the w/l's. the spurs ONLY matched their previous year's w/l which says wemby wasn't great enuf.

as long as wemby shoots 3's(at a LOW clip btw)he's taking himself out of the game and nullifying any force he can be potentially

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Post#57 » by VicG » Sun Jun 2, 2024 8:44 pm

They are all incredible but potential wise Wembanyama is rated higher imho. Bellingham is a great player but will not be on the level of Messi or Ronaldo. Carlos is fantastic but will always be compared to the big 3 and has already had injuries. Wemby is in a potential league of his own.
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Post#58 » by Wingy » Sun Jun 2, 2024 8:58 pm

Read he didn’t play well, and I get the French is happening and his team is immensely talented, but still odd timing when Jude’s team just won the Champions League.
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Post#59 » by JimmyFromNz » Sun Jun 2, 2024 9:53 pm

Follow both basketball/football daily, watched Alcaraz live at the Australian open this year.

As a prospect VW is clearly higher, that's not basketball bias creeping in, both alcaraz and Bellingham will be at or near the top of their sports but we aren't talking transformational talents the sports haven't seen before.

One thing, if we are assessing Bellingham can we not import this american sports winning bias into every conversation. Yeah hes won something...different sports, different influences and the most important fact...It's Real Madrid !
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Post#60 » by azcatz11 » Sat Jun 8, 2024 2:12 pm

Swiatek is looking pretty good...she's about to win her 4th French in the last 5 years. She could become the GOAT women's clay courter by the time it's all said and done
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