Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, Kira Lewis and 3 first round picks

Dominator83 · Post #41 » by **Dominator83** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:32 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:If i were Indy I would be trying 1 pick and Benedict
Salary isn't close in that scenario.

I meant in lieu of 3 FRPs. Benedict plus 1 FRP. I wasn't taking out the filler salaries

Bobbymcgee · Post #42 » by **Bobbymcgee** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:37 am

Get out from the Bruce Brown contract. Let the Hield contract expire. Turn down the qualifying offer on Toppin. Nice.

Sign Siakam to big deal this summer. Sucks about the draft picks though.

JXL · Post #43 » by **JXL** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:38 am

The closest I can read on this trade would be:

IND gets Siakam and Porter Jr
for
TOR gets Brown, Toppin, Nwora, 2024 OKC 1st (worst of OKC, HOU, LAC or UTA), 2025 1st, 2027 1st (top 5 protected)

srhcan · Post #44 » by **srhcan** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:39 am

this trade looks much better for Pacers than Raptors as Raptors are not getting any young player with upside in return for an All-NBA level talent

mattao313 · Post #45 » by **mattao313** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:42 am

3 1st for a guy on a expiring contract. Seems like a huge overpay unless he's gonna sign a extension.

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Jimmit79 · Post #46 » by **Jimmit79** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:43 am

So Masai is ok taking picks for siakam but not OG I say sue the raptors the lawsuit must go on lol

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Vampirate · Post #47 » by **Vampirate** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:54 am

Jimmit79 wrote:So Masai is ok taking picks for siakam but not OG I say sue the raptors the lawsuit must go on lol

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In all honesty, OG is one of the most seamless fits in the league for a team as you can already tell.

mtcan · Post #48 » by **mtcan** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:57 am

Dominator83 wrote:If i were Indy I would be trying 1 pick and Benedict

As a Raptors fan...I would LOVE that.

cgf · Post #49 » by **cgf** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:58 am

Can't wait for IQ, RJ, & Obi to rock up at the garden on Saturday :lol:

Childs · Post #50 » by **Childs** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:59 am

I'd be a little surprise if its true. The Raptors don't typically leak things until the trade happens.

cgf · Post #51 » by **cgf** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:59 am

JXL wrote:The closest I can read on this trade would be:

IND gets Siakam and Porter Jr
for
TOR gets Brown, Toppin, Nwora, 2024 OKC 1st (worst of OKC, HOU, LAC or UTA), 2025 1st, 2027 1st (top 5 protected)

It'll be buddy instead of Brown.

xBulletproof · Post #52 » by **xBulletproof** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:00 am

Dominator83 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:If i were Indy I would be trying 1 pick and Benedict
Salary isn't close in that scenario.

I meant in lieu of 3 FRPs. Benedict plus 1 FRP. I wasn't taking out the filler salaries

Why? Pacers picks are all late firsts, we own a couple extra and they're late 1sts most likely.

Late 1sts rarely translate to anything in reality. If a team offered me to 20+ first round picks for Mathurin I'm saying no without hesitation, and I'm one of the Pacers fans who isn't as high on him.

Zeno · Post #53 » by **Zeno** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:02 am

cgf wrote:Can't wait for IQ, RJ, & Obi to rock up at the garden on Saturday

In addition each player brought an additional 3000 clips with them. That’s 16000 clip from the Knicks synergy account!

docholliday99 · Post #54 » by **docholliday99** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:06 am

cgf wrote:
JXL wrote:The closest I can read on this trade would be:

IND gets Siakam and Porter Jr
for
TOR gets Brown, Toppin, Nwora, 2024 OKC 1st (worst of OKC, HOU, LAC or UTA), 2025 1st, 2027 1st (top 5 protected)

It'll be buddy instead of Brown.

Hield, Toppin, Nwora doesn't work salary wise for just Pascal.

I like Hield, Toppin, Walker for PS and Temple.

Chuck Everett · Post #55 » by **Chuck Everett** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:06 am

Siakam isn't playing like an all-star anymore. He has completely transformed into a one-way player.

tdotrep2 · Post #56 » by **tdotrep2** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:09 am

Chuck Everett wrote:Siakam isn't playing like an all-star anymore. He has completely transformed into a one-way player.

OG stopped playing defense for us too. The Pacers are about to go on a run I'm not too worried about siakam playing defense.

Pointgod · Post #57 » by **Pointgod** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:10 am

phanman wrote:I'd love to somehow get Isaiah Jackson or Jarace Walker in the deal as well

I want Nesmith.

IMF · Post #58 » by **IMF** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:17 am

2 of these picks will likely be late picks in this years weak draft. The Pacers own a second 1st from (probably) the Clippers in addition to their own. Pacers also control all of their draft picks going forward.

So you’re likely only trading out of this years draft and 2026. Not terrible. The team has good depth and is already having trouble finding rotation minutes for last year’s 7th pick. They’re pretty much on record saying they don’t have room for more rookies at the moment.

On paper I see how 3 firsts seems like a lot but this deal makes way more sense for the Pacers than giving up our blue chip prospects (Mathurin/Walker) or even our “role player” type prospects like Nembhard/Jackson/Sheppard, etc… these guys are quality depth on cheap contracts moving forward. Trading the picks is more sensible in our situation, these will be late picks anyway.

WuTang_CMB · Post #59 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:21 am

IMF wrote:2 of these picks will likely be late picks in this years weak draft. The Pacers own a second 1st from (probably) the Clippers in addition to their own. Pacers also control all of their draft picks going forward.

So you’re likely only trading out of this years draft and 2026. Not terrible. The team has good depth and is already having trouble finding rotation minutes for last year’s 7th pick. They’re pretty much on record saying they don’t have room for more rookies at the moment.

On paper I see how 3 firsts seems like a lot but this deal makes way more sense for the Pacers than giving up our blue chip prospects (Mathurin/Walker) or even our “role player” type prospects like Nembhard/Jackson/Sheppard, etc… these guys are quality depth on cheap contracts moving forward. Trading the picks is more sensible in our situation, these will be late picks anyway.

I think the Pacers did pretty well because they didnt trade Nesmith. He's a key for them with Siakam now, even moreso than their younger prospects.

IMF · Post #60 » by **IMF** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:22 am

Bobbymcgee wrote:Get out from the Bruce Brown contract. Let the Hield contract expire. Turn down the qualifying offer on Toppin. Nice.

Sign Siakam to big deal this summer. Sucks about the draft picks though.

Lol people act like we didn’t sign the Brown contract to use in exactly this sort of deal. It’s a 2 year contract with a team option. It’s an expiring if you want or 2 seasons if you like the player. It’s meant to be a trade chip. Working out by design.

Who won the trade?