Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round

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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#41 » by Up-And-Coming » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:26 am

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Why not just trade Durant/Nurkic for DLo, Austin, Rui, Hayes

Both teams get what they want

Suns get a PG & Beal Backup and Young PF/C
Lakers get their Big 3 with Nurkic to help guard Jokic


As a Laker's fan having 39 year old Lebron and 35 year old Durant team up is both intriguing and seems incredibly risky :lol: Very bold move and we just experienced what a geriatric squad looked like and it didn't end well...tempting but we give up 3 starting quality players at 3 different positions and most of them aren't even in their prime yet and are locked on solid deals. Maybe? Sign 39 year old CP3 and it's the oldest trio ever :lol:


Sometimes you have to go All In and risk it.
This would be a 2 yr Championship window

If Lakers win 1 ring it would all be worth it
After LeBron and KD will retire, which would open up a lot of cap space to rebuild with AD being the only Max contract on the roster


It would certainly be an "all-in" move with a shorter timeframe. Maybe. D'Angelo is good buddies with Booker as well and Rui would help them positionally and Reaves is just a solid player on a good deal. They're timeframes work. Suns would still have a guard logjam but they would have a lot of quality depth.

D'Angelo/Reaves
Beal/Grayson
Booker/Okogie
Rui/Eubanks
Nurkic/Hayes
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#42 » by LaLover11 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:32 am

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As a Laker's fan having 39 year old Lebron and 35 year old Durant team up is both intriguing and seems incredibly risky :lol: Very bold move and we just experienced what a geriatric squad looked like and it didn't end well...tempting but we give up 3 starting quality players at 3 different positions and most of them aren't even in their prime yet and are locked on solid deals. Maybe? Sign 39 year old CP3 and it's the oldest trio ever :lol:


Sometimes you have to go All In and risk it.
This would be a 2 yr Championship window

If Lakers win 1 ring it would all be worth it
After LeBron and KD will retire, which would open up a lot of cap space to rebuild with AD being the only Max contract on the roster


It would certainly be an "all-in" move with a shorter timeframe. Maybe. D'Angelo is good buddies with Booker as well and Rui would help them positionally and Reaves is just a solid player on a good deal. They're timeframes work. Suns would still have a guard logjam but they would have a lot of quality depth.

D'Angelo/Reaves
Beal/Grayson
Booker/Okogie
Rui/Eubanks
Nurkic/Hayes


That team looks good but Lakers only do that trade if they also get Nurkic to help AD.

Gabe, Durant, LeBron, AD, Nurkic
Max, Dinwiddie, Prince, Woods off the bench
Bronny will become Murray 2.0
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#43 » by azcatz11 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:32 am

Assuming the Heat lose in the first round - Jimmy for KD. Who says no?
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#44 » by JRoy » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:37 am

Yes.

That team isn’t winning anything.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#45 » by Up-And-Coming » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:42 am

LaLover11 wrote:
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Sometimes you have to go All In and risk it.
This would be a 2 yr Championship window

If Lakers win 1 ring it would all be worth it
After LeBron and KD will retire, which would open up a lot of cap space to rebuild with AD being the only Max contract on the roster


It would certainly be an "all-in" move with a shorter timeframe. Maybe. D'Angelo is good buddies with Booker as well and Rui would help them positionally and Reaves is just a solid player on a good deal. They're timeframes work. Suns would still have a guard logjam but they would have a lot of quality depth.

D'Angelo/Reaves
Beal/Grayson
Booker/Okogie
Rui/Eubanks
Nurkic/Hayes


That team looks good but Lakers only do that trade if they also get Nurkic to help AD.

Gabe, Durant, LeBron, AD, Nurkic
Max, Dinwiddie, Prince, Woods off the bench


I wish but the salaries won't match with Nurkic. Durant is at $52 mil and Rui ($17 mil) + Reaves ($13 mil) + Jaxson ($2 mil) is only at $32 mil combined and we can assume D'Angelo gets roughly $20 mil per which would match perfectly with Durant's $52 mil.

Nurkic is on a $18 mil contract next season and it wouldn't fit. All that depth would have to be for Durant only.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#46 » by og15 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:49 am

GusFring wrote:It seems stacking talent that doesn't compliment each other in any way isn't enough anymore.

Did it even work for anyone? Especially when one of the guys is 35?
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#47 » by LaLover11 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:50 am

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It would certainly be an "all-in" move with a shorter timeframe. Maybe. D'Angelo is good buddies with Booker as well and Rui would help them positionally and Reaves is just a solid player on a good deal. They're timeframes work. Suns would still have a guard logjam but they would have a lot of quality depth.

D'Angelo/Reaves
Beal/Grayson
Booker/Okogie
Rui/Eubanks
Nurkic/Hayes


That team looks good but Lakers only do that trade if they also get Nurkic to help AD.

Gabe, Durant, LeBron, AD, Nurkic
Max, Dinwiddie, Prince, Woods off the bench


I wish but the salaries won't match with Nurkic. Durant is at $52 mil and Rui ($17 mil) + Reaves ($13 mil) + Jaxson ($2 mil) is only at $32 mil combined and we can assume D'Angelo gets roughly $20 mil per which would match perfectly with Durant's $52 mil.

Nurkic is on a $18 mil contract next season and it wouldn't fit. All that depth would have to be for Durant only.


Lakers should still do it lol

They can still play AD at Center
Playoffs rotation is always a 8 or 9 man rotation

Gabe, Durant, LeBron, Vando, AD
Max, Dinwiddie, Prince, Woods, maybe Bronny?

Fill out the rest of the roster with minimum/buyouts

The fact Suns still keep Nurkic is crazy and would make them a young deep team.

This would make both teams contenders
Bronny will become Murray 2.0
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#48 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:55 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Durant to Thunder for Jalen Williams, and Giddey - a first
Beal for DFS and the ghost of Ben Simmons
Only way I would trade KD is to bring Mikal back, the best 2 way guard in the game!!! He would've shut down McDaniels without even trying. If the Knicks can initiate a trade to complete the Villanova connection by dumping their turnover machine, they will win the ship!
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#49 » by MavsDirk41 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:58 am

LaLover11 wrote:Reaves, Rui, Vando for Durant

Suns lineup would be:
Reaves, Booker, Beal, Vando/Rui, Nurkic

Lakers:

DLo, Durant, LeBron, AD, Hayes


Why would Phoenix do that?
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#50 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:00 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Reaves, Rui, Vando for Durant

Suns lineup would be:
Reaves, Booker, Beal, Vando/Rui, Nurkic

Lakers:

DLo, Durant, LeBron, AD, Hayes


Why would Phoenix do that?
Lol what do you expect from Lakers fans making lopsided trades in their favor.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#51 » by LaLover11 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:02 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
LaLover11 wrote:Reaves, Rui, Vando for Durant

Suns lineup would be:
Reaves, Booker, Beal, Vando/Rui, Nurkic

Lakers:

DLo, Durant, LeBron, AD, Hayes


Why would Phoenix do that?


Phoenix needs to let Booker play carefree as the #1
And put some defense around him with a PG like DLo/Reaves to run plays for Booker & Beal

You could put Vando on Edwards to help slow him down
Lakers get the Big 3 to have a punchers chance vs the Nuggets
Bronny will become Murray 2.0
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#52 » by Up-And-Coming » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:04 am

LaLover11 wrote:
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That team looks good but Lakers only do that trade if they also get Nurkic to help AD.

Gabe, Durant, LeBron, AD, Nurkic
Max, Dinwiddie, Prince, Woods off the bench


I wish but the salaries won't match with Nurkic. Durant is at $52 mil and Rui ($17 mil) + Reaves ($13 mil) + Jaxson ($2 mil) is only at $32 mil combined and we can assume D'Angelo gets roughly $20 mil per which would match perfectly with Durant's $52 mil.

Nurkic is on a $18 mil contract next season and it wouldn't fit. All that depth would have to be for Durant only.


Lakers should still do it lol

They can still play AD at Center
Playoffs rotation is always a 8 or 9 man rotation

Gabe, Durant, LeBron, Vando, AD
Max, Dinwiddie, Prince, Woods, maybe Bronny?

Fill out the rest of the roster with minimum/buyouts

The fact Suns still keep Nurkic is crazy and would make them a young deep team.

This would make both teams contenders


Ya I'm not aware of all the restrictions that the Suns have being over the 2nd Apron which could complicate things (sign-and-trade restrictions with D'Lo?) but at least on the surface it could make sense for both teams. There's still a lot of risk involved but who knows :lol:
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#53 » by HMFFL » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:06 am

GusFring wrote:It seems stacking talent that doesn't compliment each other in any way isn't enough anymore.
I concur.
Jokic causing so many future hall of famers to not win a championship. His opponents need two talented big men to even be a challenge. Boston will be a challenge. I believe this off-sesson they'll add more size that's skilled if they don't win the championship.


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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#54 » by JDR720 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:07 am

I don't know about selling high, if anything their value (besides Booker, of course) is low.

Durant will have suiters though. Miami. Chicago. 76ers. Lakers.

Beal is untradable.

Booker would get a lot, but he's the best and youngest of the group. So they should keep him.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#55 » by Wolveswin » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:13 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Durant to Thunder for Jalen Williams, and Giddey - a first
Beal for DFS and the ghost of Ben Simmons

Huh????

Way overpay for KD and Beal.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#56 » by Upperclass » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:15 am

KD for Randle/Pick/Swap is most likely. He doesnt have another move unless him and Lillard want to link up somewhere. Booker stays, Beal obv stays with a no-trade. Knicks should also try getting an OG for Bridges swap if they get KD
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#57 » by HMFFL » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:15 am

Kevin Durant needs to get to Denver. A good landing spot for Phoenix is if Joel Embiid becomes available. If they can team him up with KD and Booker it could work.

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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#58 » by MavsDirk41 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:24 am

HMFFL wrote:Kevin Durant needs to get to Denver. A good landing spot for Phoenix is if Joel Embiid becomes available. If they can team him up with KD and Booker it could work.

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What would Phoenix trade for Embiid? Beal and draft picks isnt enough. Biggest name to move this offseason will probably be Lavine.
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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#59 » by Soonercrazy84 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:27 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Durant to Thunder for Jalen Williams, and Giddey - a first
Beal for DFS and the ghost of Ben Simmons
Are you high? We would never take that deal.

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Re: Should The Suns Sell High On Kd & Booker if they lose in the 1st round 

Post#60 » by doogie_hauser » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:42 am

Upperclass wrote:KD for Randle/Pick/Swap is most likely. He doesnt have another move unless him and Lillard want to link up somewhere. Booker stays, Beal obv stays with a no-trade. Knicks should also try getting an OG for Bridges swap if they get KD


Lol That's worse than the Lakers trade suggestion.
Phoenix have no need or want of Randle

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