Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets)

[ITYSL]

Butler is older, more injury-prone, and isn't as impactful on the floor as he used to be. He can still be a valuable piece to a playoff team, but I don't think he would turn the Rockets into a contender. Who knows, though. I've been wrong before, that's for sure.

[Tor_Raps]

Figure out how to trade Jimmy for Jalen Green and filler and the Rockets have a contending roster

Green doesn't make sense when there's Herro.

We also thought that meant no Rozier but here we are lol

[_GH0ST_]

Figure out how to trade Jimmy for Jalen Green and filler and the Rockets have a contending roster

Green doesn't make sense when there's Herro.

We also thought that meant no Rozier but here we are lol

You should not think that the same mistake will be repeated over and over again.

[Godymas]

Jimmy replacing Dillon Brooks would be an unreal upgrade. I'd say they also ship out Jabari Smith in the deal and move Amen to the starting line-up.

They have Steven Adams, maybe JaeSean Tate to make-up salary.

[Kiss of Death]

Yea, technically Jalen Green can be traded.

As soon as the Rockets can find a team that can take on $40 M in salary without sending anything out (Poison Pill) and without getting any incentive (Butler isn’t worth that).
Good luck with that.

Now we can get back to the ‘Jimmy Butler trade’ thread and get away from the ‘My irrational hatred for a 22 year old kid’ thread.

[jbsays]

Heat aren't going to move him for salaries going beyond 25-26 season unless they feel it is a guy that can help them long term. I think they're trying to have the flexibility of cap space going into 26-27 season with only Bam, Herro, Jaquez, Larsonn, and Ware on the books. They want someone next to Bam and Herro who will be 28 and 26 going in to that season. They may even be waiting until the next offseason when Mitchell is a free agent.

We all know they can fill the roster with guys like Robinson, Highsmith, Dru Smith, Struss, Gabe Vincent, etc. They want an All NBA'er next to Herro and Bam.... they're not looking to develop a young guy.

[phanman]

Jimmy's at 48.8m this year. As a 2nd apron team, they'd have to match the same salary coming in with no option to aggregate another player on top of Jimmy. He's having a down year in what is suppose to be a contract season and with the apron rules, it's nearly impossible to trade him. Some info on the three destinations:

Mavericks - no way to achieve this w/o include Kyrie or dismantling the entire supporting cast

Rockets - Unless Fred is included, they'd also have to gut their supporting cast to make it feasible. Even with his 42.8m, they don't have a tradable 6m salary to make it work. That's ignoring the whole fact that Fred has been integral to the rebuild in Houston where they are currently sitting 3rd in the West with a plethora of high upside wings already on the roster on bargain contracts.

Warriors - The Dubs are a 2nd apron team, so they can't aggregate salaries to match his salary.

[BBallFreak]

Jimmy's at 48.8m this year. As a 2nd apron team, they'd have to match the same salary coming in with no option to aggregate another player on top of Jimmy. He's having a down year in what is suppose to be a contract season and with the apron rules, it's nearly impossible to trade him. Some info on the three destinations:

Mavericks - no way to achieve this w/o include Kyrie or dismantling the entire supporting cast

Rockets - Unless Fred is included, they'd also have to gut their supporting cast to make it feasible. Even with his 42.8m, they don't have a tradable 6m salary to make it work. That's ignoring the whole fact that Fred has been integral to the rebuild in Houston where they are currently sitting 3rd in the West with a plethora of high upside wings already on the roster on bargain contracts.

Warriors - The Dubs are a 2nd apron team, so they can't aggregate salaries to match his salary.

Miami is not in the second apron.

[phanman]

Jimmy's at 48.8m this year. As a 2nd apron team, they'd have to match the same salary coming in with no option to aggregate another player on top of Jimmy. He's having a down year in what is suppose to be a contract season and with the apron rules, it's nearly impossible to trade him. Some info on the three destinations:

Mavericks - no way to achieve this w/o include Kyrie or dismantling the entire supporting cast

Rockets - Unless Fred is included, they'd also have to gut their supporting cast to make it feasible. Even with his 42.8m, they don't have a tradable 6m salary to make it work. That's ignoring the whole fact that Fred has been integral to the rebuild in Houston where they are currently sitting 3rd in the West with a plethora of high upside wings already on the roster on bargain contracts.

Warriors - The Dubs are a 2nd apron team, so they can't aggregate salaries to match his salary.

Miami is not in the second apron.

Right they are just below, my bad.

[DusterBuster]

I know Houston fans are poo-pooing this, but the Rockets FO has not shied away from bringing in older vets.

I could easily see them wanting to consolidate some players and picks to bring in Jimmy to pair with JVV and Brooks, but not sure how the money can be matched.

[djsunyc]

I know Houston fans are poo-pooing this, but the Rockets FO has not shied away from bringing in older vets.

I could easily see them wanting to consolidate some players and picks to bring in Jimmy to pair with JVV and Brooks, but not sure how the money can be matched.

if you are going to consolidate, i'm not sure 36 year old jimmy is the guy to do it with especially considering his volatile personality. it may match up with udoka but the downside outweighs the upside imho.

[LarsV8]

I know Houston fans are poo-pooing this, but the Rockets FO has not shied away from bringing in older vets.

I could easily see them wanting to consolidate some players and picks to bring in Jimmy to pair with JVV and Brooks, but not sure how the money can be matched.

Butler is a nice player, but he is also 36, and an expiring contract. A half season of Butler just isn't all that appealing to us.

We also like all our guys in the rotation, so trading the easy money guys like Brooks or FVV, who are big time contributors, doesn't do much for us. Additionally, with no 2026 pick, Stepien rule hurts us.

I could really only see two options that Houston "might" bite on.
a.) Landale, Adams, Tate, Green with Whitmore as the sweetener. Whitmore is promising, but we are running out rotation spots for prospects. Can't include our 2025 first due to Stepien, and don't really want to include anything else anyway.

b.) Wait till the offseason, either have Butler opt in and trade for Green + filler + 2025 pick, or SnT.

Outside of that, totally fine with passing on Butler. These young player + multiple pick packages are just an absolute fantasy.

[Effigy]

I know Houston fans are poo-pooing this, but the Rockets FO has not shied away from bringing in older vets.

I could easily see them wanting to consolidate some players and picks to bring in Jimmy to pair with JVV and Brooks, but not sure how the money can be matched.

if you are going to consolidate, i'm not sure 36 year old jimmy is the guy to do it with especially considering his volatile personality. it may match up with udoka but the downside outweighs the upside imho.

I feel like one or both of Brooks and FVV would be going out in the trade. Houston needs salary to match Jimmy and isn't going to want to send many young assets at Jimmy's age.

Fred Van Vleet for Jimmy straight up works in the trade checker. Maybe Houston throws in a couple of 2nds.

[WiggOuts]

Its nice the Jimmy wants HOU but HOU doesn't need him nore should they attempt to trade for him. It doesn't make sense for them.

GS makes sense but I don't see the point, it won't make them that much better, they'd be so old.

SAC could make sense around Demar but I don't see why MIA does it

DAL wouldn't match up

MEM could be interesting but theyd have to give up too much

There aren't many reasonable options, and he wants to get paid obviously, thats why this is even a conversation

[KGtabake]

If Middleton could stay healthy it would be very intriguing to swap him with Butler.
Ofc if he could stay healthy the Bucks wouldn't entertain the idea. Plus, Butler would have never wanted to play in the North.
But an intrigue is always an intrigue.
Realistically, he would have been great on the Magic alongside Banchero and Wagner.

[Kurtz]

Jimmy's at 48.8m this year. As a 2nd apron team, they'd have to match the same salary coming in with no option to aggregate another player on top of Jimmy. He's having a down year in what is suppose to be a contract season and with the apron rules, it's nearly impossible to trade him. Some info on the three destinations:

Mavericks - no way to achieve this w/o include Kyrie or dismantling the entire supporting cast

Rockets - Unless Fred is included, they'd also have to gut their supporting cast to make it feasible. Even with his 42.8m, they don't have a tradable 6m salary to make it work. That's ignoring the whole fact that Fred has been integral to the rebuild in Houston where they are currently sitting 3rd in the West with a plethora of high upside wings already on the roster on bargain contracts.

Warriors - The Dubs are a 2nd apron team, so they can't aggregate salaries to match his salary.

Second Apron is 182.5m - I'm seeing Warriors at 178m presently.

[bullsaficianado]

Surprised no one is talking about Phoenix. Beal wanted to go to Miami and a straight up trade for Butler works. Miami would still have a star player.

[BBallFreak]

Surprised no one is talking about Phoenix. Beal wanted to go to Miami and a straight up trade for Butler works. Miami would still have a star player.

Miami didn't want Beal when they had the chance to get him last year. He hasn't done anything to change anyone's mind. Also, Herro is better.

[SA37]

I am not sure Miami is going to get a good enough offer to move Butler. If Butler is not moved, it is hard for me to see him passing on $52M, although it depends which teams might have cap space.

I don't see Dallas having the pieces to make an offer Miami would consider, but Golden St and Houston do. A deal with Golden St is hard to do without a 3rd team, but Houston could put together a solid package for Butler.

[SA37]

Surprised no one is talking about Phoenix. Beal wanted to go to Miami and a straight up trade for Butler works. Miami would still have a star player.

Miami didn't want Beal when they had the chance to get him last year. He hasn't done anything to change anyone's mind. Also, Herro is better.

To add to this, Beal has been plagued by injuries since getting to Phoenix and is on one of the worst contracts in the league.