What happens to draft picks traded if team is over 2nd apron?

[Ryoga Hibiki]

2nd apron needs to go

Fans like watching sustained runs and suceess. bulls, warriors lakers, celtics, even sustained cores that dont lead to championships are very popular and good for the league.... why should I as a fan have to watch my favourite players leave because the pelicans dont know how to run their team?? huh

If you have a superstar and built a championship core you shouldn’t be forced into breaking up the team just for fairly paying players and trying to stay competitive. Make a hard cap if money is a problem, cutting contending teams out at the knees makes the NBA less entertaining and is a false parity. The quality of the product is nosediving for a lot of reasons and these misguided 2nd apron penalties play a part in it.

you realize a hard cap is much harsher than the 2nd apron, don't you? teams would get broken much more often

[Fencer reregistered]

2nd apron unnecessary punitive and still favors big markets as it’s the small market teams with stars who will be forced into the 2nd apron in order to compete. NBA shouldn’t be trying legislate Giannis and Jokic off their respective teams, where do you think Silver prefers they play?

Even a hard cap wouldn't make things totally equal. A Knicks player can surely make more money on local endorsements than a Bucks player can.

On the flip side, there are state income taxes and local cost of living ...

Hard cap isn’t as punitive as 2nd apron imo. I’d take the old system or no cap at all over current CBA. Don’t think Giannis and Jokic staying on their respective teams is a problem, should be encouraged.

That makes little sense, unless you're using the word "punitive" in an unusual way.

The luxury tax rules, including second apron, create lots of drawbacks to having a high team salary.
A hard cap makes a high team salary totally impossible.

[JayMKE]

Fans like watching sustained runs and suceess. bulls, warriors lakers, celtics, even sustained cores that dont lead to championships are very popular and good for the league.... why should I as a fan have to watch my favourite players leave because the pelicans dont know how to run their team?? huh

If you have a superstar and built a championship core you shouldn’t be forced into breaking up the team just for fairly paying players and trying to stay competitive. Make a hard cap if money is a problem, cutting contending teams out at the knees makes the NBA less entertaining and is a false parity. The quality of the product is nosediving for a lot of reasons and these misguided 2nd apron penalties play a part in it.

you realize a hard cap is much harsher than the 2nd apron, don't you? teams would get broken much more often

I do not think the 2nd apron is good for the product and that it is punitive in nature, end of story. I do not care what it’s replaced with including no cap at all. Don’t make player movement harder, don’t make it harder to keep teams together.

[JayMKE]

Even a hard cap wouldn't make things totally equal. A Knicks player can surely make more money on local endorsements than a Bucks player can.

On the flip side, there are state income taxes and local cost of living ...

Hard cap isn’t as punitive as 2nd apron imo. I’d take the old system or no cap at all over current CBA. Don’t think Giannis and Jokic staying on their respective teams is a problem, should be encouraged.

That makes little sense, unless you're using the word "punitive" in an unusual way.

The luxury tax rules, including second apron, create lots of drawbacks to having a high team salary.
A hard cap makes a high team salary totally impossible.

I do not believe in this kind of “nudging”, yes hard cap is less punitive since it simply doesn’t allow high salary teams versus punishing teams in a bunch of unnecessary ways for spending too much money. One is a rule and the other punitive.

[MrGoat]

If you have a superstar and built a championship core you shouldn’t be forced into breaking up the team just for fairly paying players and trying to stay competitive. Make a hard cap if money is a problem, cutting contending teams out at the knees makes the NBA less entertaining and is a false parity. The quality of the product is nosediving for a lot of reasons and these misguided 2nd apron penalties play a part in it.

you realize a hard cap is much harsher than the 2nd apron, don't you? teams would get broken much more often

I do not think the 2nd apron is good for the product and that it is punitive in nature, end of story. I do not care what it’s replaced with including no cap at all. Don’t make player movement harder, don’t make it harder to keep teams together.

Nothing would make it harder to keep teams together than a hard cap. The 2nd apron still leaves teams a chance to retain their teams if they're willing to take the risks involved, with a hard cap you'll never be able to keep a good team together for longer than an ant's fart and will always be scrambling to be under the cap every season