Deni Avdija

[Exp0sed]

Avdija is still underrated. Would have loved him on the bucks

he's a perfect fit for this Bucks team tbh. they would have been much more dangerous with him, he fills alot of your needs and on a tiny salary.

[JRoy]

Avdija is still underrated. Would have loved him on the bucks

he's a perfect fit for this Bucks team tbh. they would have been much more dangerous with him, he fills alot of your needs and on a tiny salary.

MIL does not have the assets to get him. Not by a mile.

[Onus]

Was shocked the warriors didnt try to swap Kuminga for him before the blazers trade

I wanted them to draft Deni

would have been hard for him to develop without getting the consistent mins he was getting for the Wizards and now the Blazers. he was 19 when he came over, dude needed to be on the court, playing against NBA players and he wouldn't have gotten that had the Dubs drafted him, imo

We actually gave wiseman a lot of playing time his rookie year. We probably would’ve given him playing time the next year as well if he wasn’t injured.

Rookies get playing time if they know how to play basketball on the warriors. If you’re raw and get lost then yea you won’t play as much but we’ve still given jk and moody playing time just not unlimited playing time.

That’s been part of my issue with the front office. They’ve been trying to develop these raw talents while saying they still want to win.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Wish my OKC had traded for him.

I think he should be the big move this summer. Overpay enough to be worth it. Only SGA/Chet/Jalen/Cason would be off the table

[JRoy]

Wish my OKC had traded for him.

I think he should be the big move this summer. Overpay enough to be worth it. Only SGA/Chet/Jalen/Cason would be off the table

POR should do it if the price is right.

[playoffs]

Wish my OKC had traded for him.

I think he should be the big move this summer. Overpay enough to be worth it. Only SGA/Chet/Jalen/Cason would be off the table

It would take a LOT for Portland to part with Deni but if anyone has the assets to make a Godfather offer it's OKC. Would be interesting if they went after him.

[DusterBuster]

Wish my OKC had traded for him.

I think he should be the big move this summer. Overpay enough to be worth it. Only SGA/Chet/Jalen/Cason would be off the table

It would take a LOT for Portland to part with Deni but if anyone has the assets to make a Godfather offer it's OKC. Would be interesting if they went after him.

Yeah, it would totally depend on the offer. I would be looking for at min 4 FRPs, if OKC wants him, they’re gonna have to pay big.

I also don’t really agree with people who think OKC is a good fit for him. With how ball dominant SGA is, I think you’d only get like 70% if what you’re seeing out of Deni in Portland.

[Capn'O]

Good player, isnt over paid.. a placeholder for cooper flagg..be a 15 8 4 guy ..

in 12 games post the all-star break he's averaging 20\9\5 in just 31 mpg

It's always weird to me when somebody extrapolates a players ceiling right around their current averages.

[playoffs]

I think he should be the big move this summer. Overpay enough to be worth it. Only SGA/Chet/Jalen/Cason would be off the table

It would take a LOT for Portland to part with Deni but if anyone has the assets to make a Godfather offer it's OKC. Would be interesting if they went after him.

Yeah, it would totally depend on the offer. I would be looking for at min 4 FRPs, if OKC wants him, they’re gonna have to pay big.

I also don’t really agree with people who think OKC is a good fit for him. With how ball dominant SGA is, I think you’d only get like 70% if what you’re seeing out of Deni in Portland.

Agree on both counts. POR would definitely ask for at least 4 high quality FRPs, but if there's any team that both has those and could part with them without feeling much pain, it's OKC. And yes, you wouldn't get as much from Deni with SGA dominating the ball so much. However, even 70% of Deni, or a Deni who takes more of a backseat when playing with SGA but runs the second unit, would be a significant boost to OKC's championship aspirations. Though personally I'd rather see him stay in Portland and see what this group can do.

[magee]

He was constantly played out of position both in Washington and Portland. He's a 4. Game against New Orleans? He was a 4. His stretch of dominance in Portland? As the 4.

Billups kept trying to start Deni at shooting guard earlier in the season. He was clearly uncomfortable in that role.

Washington kept forcing to try and play him as a small forward and he was inconsistent.

His lapses on defense are because of Portland's guards being terrible defensively on the POA and rotating down. Otherwise he holds his own.

He's be MIP is it wasn't for MotorCADE in Detroit launching into the All-NBA stratosphere.

[Dame Lizard]

Was shocked the warriors didnt try to swap Kuminga for him before the blazers trade

I actually thought about this a lot. IMO Deni would've made GS an instant contender, even before the Butler trade. He just provides everything they are/were missing. Him and Steph together would be a nightmare for opposing teams because every time he drives the defense either collapses or he gets an and-1. Imagine a team having to choose between stopping Deni's drives and giving Steph single coverage. He would unlock Buddy too.

But honestly I think WAS probably could've gotten the best deal from OKC, who is drowning in FRPs and could absolutely use Deni.

You nailed all of this

Agreed.

Having Deni on OKC at that contract would provide so much value. I was shocked that OKC didn't make a move on him. For competitors, a genuinely really good player on a long-term bargain deal is an absolute gold mine.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

Deni's supposed inconsistency with the Wizards is way overblown. Some of it was growing pains but most of it was him having to defer to players with tunnel vision like Kuz and Poole and being yanked after every mistake. He's not a perfect player but he is always very aware and honest about his weaknesses and what he needs to improve on, and he actually works on these things and significantly improves them, e.g., his shooting and especially finishing at the rim which has become his superpower. The main thing he needs to work on now is limiting turnovers, and I would easily bet he improves in that area by next season.

This season he has been very consistent outside of two dips - one is the rough start to the season which is not unusual for a player in a new situation. The second one was for a couple of weeks prior to the all star break he had a wrist injury that hampered his shooting (nearly all of his shots were short). I thought they should've just rested him when he was injured but Chauncey or the medical staff decided he should play for some reason. Other than those two periods, Deni (including his shooting) has been very consistent and easily Portland's best player.

This is a really good take.

Avdija was stunted by being on teams falsely chasing play-in births, having little leash to play through growing pains or add to his game during his first three seasons. Then finally he starts to break out last year while having to deal with two guys that loved to pound the air out of the ball in Kuzma and Poole because they were vets. Then they traded him before the draft in what myself and others on the Wizards board felt was a horribly petty (he wasn't Dawkins guy) and short-sighted move as Deni is plenty young enough to even fit the Wizards rebuild timeline for a bad trade return at that.

Fast forward to today, those of us who have continued to call it a bad trade are being vindicated that our eyes weren't deceiving us that Deni has a rare set of skills combined into one player.

You can play him at all five positions, though he's probably best suited for the 2-4 positions. He's got great size at 6'9'' on the wing, good strength, is capable of playing elite defense and is good on most nights, can switch on everything, guard 1-4 consistently well, and 5s in a pinch. On offense, he's elite at getting to the rim and drawing fouls, he can bring the ball up, run the offense from the top of the key, and is a good passer, he's even shown a post up game. His shooting has also come a long way where he's basically a 60% TS guy over the last two seasons. He's also consistently one of the best rebounding SF (where he's traditionally played most of his minutes) in the league as well. Then you have the intangibles. He's a competitor, plays a team brand of basketball, and hold teammates accountable. He essentially has no major weakness, does a lot of things above league average, and is starting to hone an elite open-court, rim pressuring offensive game where he can guard anyone on the court. Did I mention he is on an amazing contract too?

His turnovers need to improve for sure, but if you watch him regularly he's is usually trying to make the right play, he just hasn't mastered timing yet. The majority of them are not the traveling, ball hog, I'm doing stupid things variety.

Wizards made another oh so Wizards blunder trading a piece that could have been core to their rebirth. Hilarious how inept the franchise is at this point even with a new front office.

[nate33]

I was apoplectic when the Wizards traded him. I knew he had All-Star potential, or maybe just shy of All-Star potential.

I was right.

[-HB-]

He was constantly played out of position both in Washington and Portland. He's a 4. Game against New Orleans? He was a 4. His stretch of dominance in Portland? As the 4.

Billups kept trying to start Deni at shooting guard earlier in the season. He was clearly uncomfortable in that role.

Washington kept forcing to try and play him as a small forward and he was inconsistent.

His lapses on defense are because of Portland's guards being terrible defensively on the POA and rotating down. Otherwise he holds his own.

He's be MIP is it wasn't for MotorCADE in Detroit launching into the All-NBA stratosphere.

Seeing him live in person surprised me how big/tall he is.

[magee]

He's definitely put work in the weight room. Can tell how how much better he's been absorbing contact over the last couple of years.

[elchengue20]

Another superstar performance tonight leading the W over Denver


36/8/7

12/16 FG and 4/6 from three


Best plusminus in the game also with +27

[brutalitops]

Washington could of got a lot more. But needed to sign below his value to get our

Best move to go to a team who wanted a quicker rebuild where he was on a valuable contract and would get time to grow as a player. Not a team with minimum money trying to get a 6/7th guy. Whoever got him that contract deserves more then 10%

Also an Israeli celebrity not signing bombs aimed at civilians is a huge bonus.

Strike for political derailing -b

[Jimmy Recard]

Yeah, he’s gonna be an all star at some point. Not just a “good player/starter on an elite team” like a lot of people thought of as his ceiling. Guy is the total package. Great get by Portland.

[baldur]

No wonder wizards have been sucking for forever.

[Jimmy Recard]

No wonder wizards have been sucking for forever.

You just figured this out now?