It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers

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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#41 » by Sixers in 4 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:11 pm

phanman wrote:The Bucks are only relevant because of Giannis and just because they won't have a contender next season it doesn't mean they should trade him away. He's firmly in his prime and unless there's a godfather offer out there, why would you disrupt the flow of the franchise by openly shopping him when he hasn't even hinted at wanting out.

Outside of probably the Middleton trade, everything transaction the organization has made has been under his influence. He's made his bed.


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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#42 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:16 pm

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Dame Lizard wrote:Agree. If Giannis is happy to stay, it's an easy decision to keep things as they are. You won a recent championship as a small market team - that's a tremendous achievement.

Alternatively, if Giannis isn't happy, it's an easy trade. He's been your organisation's GOAT and great for the city. You respect that and work with him on his request.



Damian Lillard's Blazers were a great example of success without contention. They were never a threat to win a championship with Lillard, but they made the playoffs for 8 straight seasons, they drew fans, and he gave the franchise a lot of great moments and memories.


You'd be a great GM for an ownership group that's solely focused on profits, but that's about it.


So just about all of them then. And I wholeheartedly disagree that I'd make a great GM but glad I can count on you for a reference.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#43 » by KGDirkTD_Fan » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:18 pm

They could just be drumming up demand for Giannis. See how much of the farm someone's willing to sell for Giannis.

It would be cool though if he does just stay as a Bucks lifer. He won the ultimate prize on the Bucks he's a champ.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#44 » by The Warrior » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:20 pm

NZB2323 wrote:The Bucks won a championship with Giannis, they drafted him from overseas, he’s built a home in Milwaukee and does a lot of charity work in the city, and is a fan favorite.

If he doesn’t want to leave I can’t blame the Bucks for keeping him. Teams have also won a championship without trading away their star. The Spurs didn’t trade away David Robinson and won a championship with him, the Celtics didn’t trade away Pierce and won a championship with him, and the Lakers didn’t trade away Kobe when they missed the playoffs in 05.


While you're correct, your comparison's are fairly odd.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#45 » by Warspite » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:21 pm

liquidswords wrote:
Jellybeans wrote:Getting picks and some young talent wont make you better in future.
You cant say it will.
You have at worst top5 player in NBA. Denver and Bucks will never trade Giannis and Joker if they dont ask for it.


Great so you provide no progress for your team and you ruin your star player's prime. The only good thing about MIL keeping Giannis is revenue.


The point of an NBA team outside of Boston/LA is to make money. It took the Bucks 40 years to rebuild from the KAJ trade. Most likely it will be another 40 years after a Giannis trade until they rebuild.


For some reason today's fans believe it's the franchises job to get rings for their stars when historically it's the players job to win for the cities/fans.
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Post#46 » by knicksfan974 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:21 pm

He will always be a fan favorite in Milwaulee no matter what, but he could also end up being an icon and a legend in NYC and MSG, winning the title with the Knicks if he really wants to. If I'm Giannis that would be a career move I would have to give a real thought, especially as he ain't winning any titles with the Bucks anymore.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#47 » by Caped Crusader » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:25 pm

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Damian Lillard's Blazers were a great example of success without contention. They were never a threat to win a championship with Lillard, but they made the playoffs for 8 straight seasons, they drew fans, and he gave the franchise a lot of great moments and memories.


You'd be a great GM for an ownership group that's solely focused on profits, but that's about it.


So just about all of them then. And I wholeheartedly disagree that I'd make a great GM but glad I can count on you for a reference.


Well you might be right if you think profits are the only thing they're worried about. :lol: Forget what I said, no reference for you.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#48 » by adubmac » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:26 pm

It's much easier to find a supporting cast than it is to find a legit superstar, especially with limited assets.If Giannis wants to stay, credit to him for not ring chasing and being a one franchise superstar - something that is becoming almost extinct these days.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#49 » by Sane » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:35 pm

It's really crazy. You have 0 faith that you can build a team worth a damn if you trade him, but you believe that very same front office will figure out a way to build around him in the most disgusting most complex capped out situation.

It's a scam on the fans and Giannis is a real idiot if he believes in a front office that doesn't believe in itself. He's just going to get more frustrated and next season when he has only one season remaining he'll be able to force his way to any team he likes.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#50 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:40 pm

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You'd be a great GM for an ownership group that's solely focused on profits, but that's about it.


So just about all of them then. And I wholeheartedly disagree that I'd make a great GM but glad I can count on you for a reference.


Well you might be right if you think profits are the only thing they're worried about. 8-) Forget what I said, no reference for you.


Building a contender and competing for championships are usually conducive to profits, so it's not like one can't care greatly about both. Milwaukee can make the playoffs with Giannis for the next several years, be relevant, draw fans, and not compete for a championship, or they can suck for the next few years in hopes of having a very small chance at a championship a few more years after that, while likely never having a player as good or beloved as Giannis again. This is such an easy calculus. And that's without mentioning the potential PR disaster of trading Giannis when he's not asking to be traded.

There's a reason why there's no real history of teams trading their superstars when it becomes clear they won't contend with them. You only trade your elite players if they're asking out or if it's clear they're going to leave. No one ever does the thing people in this thread are suggesting Milwaukee should do.

Being in the NBA's abyssal zone is a lot worse for small market teams. They don't have the luxury of consistently bringing in the revenue the Knicks or Lakers do in losing seasons.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#51 » by RRyder823 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:52 pm

Sixers in 4 wrote:Look I agree they shouldn't move him if he wants to stay but he clearly doesn't want to stay and the Bucks after the Dame injury are not going to be very good next season.

They should offer him an extension
and if he rejects it shop him around or they can wait for him to demand a trade in the offseason and get pennies on the dollar.


And what exactly is that based on? People are really comfortable making **** up. The man could litterally say they'd have to kick him out the doors to get rid of him and people the next day would still ask when he gonna force his way out (wait that allready happened)

As for the 2nd bolded good lord can we get people who can do a Google search before commenting





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Post#52 » by GiannisAnte34 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:54 pm

Sane wrote:It's really crazy. You have 0 faith that you can build a team worth a damn if you trade him, but you believe that very same front office will figure out a way to build around him in the most disgusting most complex capped out situation.

It's a scam on the fans and Giannis is a real idiot if he believes in a front office that doesn't believe in itself. He's just going to get more frustrated and next season when he has only one season remaining he'll be able to force his way to any team he likes.


It’s much more difficult to build a team that has a top 3 player than it is to fill out role players. I don’t think you’re coming to the table in good faith if you’re suggesting it’s easier to start over from scratch.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#53 » by Pattycakes » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:54 pm

I hope they fade into absolute mediocrity/purgatory as a Blazers fan. The bucks being at the bottom pushes us to the top now from 2028-2030
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#54 » by GiannisAnte34 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:55 pm

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Sixers in 4 wrote:Look I agree they shouldn't move him if he wants to stay but he clearly doesn't want to stay and the Bucks after the Dame injury are not going to be very good next season.

They should offer him an extension
and if he rejects it shop him around or they can wait for him to demand a trade in the offseason and get pennies on the dollar.


And what exactly is that based on? People are really comfortable making **** up

As for the 2nd bolded good lord can we get people who can do a Google search before commenting





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This guy was also unbelievably wrong (and confident) that the 76ers were Championship contenders this season. He is good at being laughably wrong.
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Post#55 » by GeorgeSears » Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:30 pm

The Bucks could possibly get those two 1st round picks from the Spurs and players as well. Holding onto Giannis just feels like they're hurting themselves and him.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#56 » by doogie_hauser » Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:43 pm

Nonsense.

He is happy to be at Milwaukee and they would not get any type of return from anyone else that would make Bucks fans happy they traded their generational once in a life time GOAT player.

Lebron and Durant are mostly to blame for this current line of thinking superstars need to change teams in order to ring class.

Giannis is happy enough to stay at Milwaukee and that's absolutely fine/nothing wrong with being loyal
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#57 » by xdrta+ » Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:56 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:


2026–27:
Total salary: ~$144.4M
Salary cap (projected): ~$152–155M

2027–28 (Major Opportunity Year)
Total salary (projected): ~$65.3M
Giannis player option: $62.8M
Cap projection for 2027–28: ~$160–170M



These cap projections seem off. Every projection expects a 10% rise each year, which puts them at about $170M for 26-27 and about $187M for 27-28.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#58 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:57 pm

Giannis for Banchero would be amazing for both organizations.

Bucks get their ‘next’ star if Banchero can keep developing who is win-now enough (not owning own picks).

Magic can acquire Giannis and not empty the clip in doing so (respect to value Banchero+ holds). Giannis and Magic (and Florida) can recruit the best win-now guard with remaining assets to make like 5-8 deep playoff runs.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#59 » by Sixers in 4 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:23 am

GiannisAnte34 wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:Look I agree they shouldn't move him if he wants to stay but he clearly doesn't want to stay and the Bucks after the Dame injury are not going to be very good next season.

They should offer him an extension
and if he rejects it shop him around or they can wait for him to demand a trade in the offseason and get pennies on the dollar.


And what exactly is that based on? People are really comfortable making **** up

As for the 2nd bolded good lord can we get people who can do a Google search before commenting





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This guy was also unbelievably wrong (and confident) that the 76ers were Championship contenders this season. He is good at being laughably wrong.


Wrong. I said prior to the injuries they were dark horse candidates and had them in the 2nd tier of teams behind the Celtics, Knicks, and a team in the West—the Nuggets?? I can't remember who, and only if Embiid stayed healthy.

I didn't predict the injuries to pretty much everyone on the roster, from Embiid to Maxey to George to even our first round pick McCain. Go and search through my posts and find a post where I said the Sixers were favorites to win a championship; you won't find it because I never said it

You take away any team's best three players, and they are going to suck but at least we got the 3rd overall pick from it. The Bucks are going to get nothing and still suck next year
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#60 » by mademan » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:40 am

donkki wrote:He will always be a fan favorite in Milwaulee no matter what, but he could also end up being an icon and a legend in NYC and MSG, winning the title with the Knicks if he really wants to. If I'm Giannis that would be a career move I would have to give a real thought, especially as he ain't winning any titles with the Bucks anymore.


If he's available, any combination of Towns/OG/Bridges is not gonna be the best deal on the table, especially since the Knicks have no picks. Houston and SA would outbid them in a second

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