Where Jonathan Kuminga ends ?

cpower · Post #41 » by **cpower** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:02 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:If he goes to Miami, what is Miami trading back? Rozier and trash?

Wiggins would be my guess

if he goes to a 3rd team. We need a dynamic scorer not someone who is struggling to score efficiently

Blame Rasho · Post #42 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:04 pm

DB23 wrote:
Prestige wrote:His career was impacted by being drafted by GS. Kerr played around with him too much.

Yep, totally on Kerr that he can’t shoot, dribble or defend

It is on him to umm not suck and develop

Blame Rasho · Post #43 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:05 pm

WiggOuts wrote:
Prestige wrote:His career was impacted by being drafted by GS. Kerr played around with him too much.

A good example of why lotto talent usually dont want to be drafted to good teams. Theres lots of examples of their development taking a back seat, few examples of things working out perfectly

It would be nice if players just said, I have not played up to my potential, I have not performed well enough for my coach to have faith in me.

Shock Defeat · Post #44 » by **Shock Defeat** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:18 pm

JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

DB23 · Post #45 » by **DB23** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:20 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:
DB23 wrote:
Prestige wrote:His career was impacted by being drafted by GS. Kerr played around with him too much.

Yep, totally on Kerr that he can’t shoot, dribble or defend

It is on him to umm not suck and develop

Didn’t think I needed to put the green font haha

I’m one of the early dubs fans that was off the kuminga train. I just don’t think he’s very good or has the potential to be, especially not with his mindset.

Let’s see how he goes at his next stop. He is still young after all but imo he has a below average feel for the game.

DB23 · Post #46 » by **DB23** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:21 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

Blame Rasho · Post #47 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:24 pm

DB23 wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

In a league where it is so easy to score 20 ppg, he has yet to do so… and now will score 23ppg… sure

Shock Defeat · Post #48 » by **Shock Defeat** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 4:41 pm

DB23 wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

Better at mid range, slashing, and finishing at the rim.

Only thing Jalen does better is the three points shot and slightly higher bbiq.

DB23 · Post #49 » by **DB23** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:29 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:
DB23 wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

Better at mid range, slashing, and finishing at the rim.

Only thing Jalen does better is the three points shot and slightly higher bbiq.

As someone who’s watched almost every kuminga game in his career, his physical attributes make his finishing better. Wouldn’t say he’s a talented slasher at all and his mid range is beyond meh

I’m not saying green is great, rather that kuminga is far worse.

CS707 · Post #50 » by **CS707** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:35 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:
DB23 wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

Better at mid range, slashing, and finishing at the rim.

Only thing Jalen does better is the three points shot and slightly higher bbiq.

Those are two pretty important things.

Optms · Post #51 » by **Optms** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:26 pm

DB23 wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

At basketball. Green is trash. I would rather have Kyle freaking Kuzma or on my teams roster. Thats how awful your analysis is of Jalen Green.

DB23 · Post #52 » by **DB23** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:37 pm

Optms wrote:
DB23 wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

At basketball. Green is trash. I would rather have Kyle freaking Kuzma or on my teams roster. Thats how awful your analysis is of Jalen Green.

And what is my analysis? That he’s better than kuminga? Now that’s some awful analysis for you.

Bad Bart · Post #53 » by **Bad Bart** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:53 pm

Kent wrote:Talk about a morbid thread topic.

In the kitchen, with the candle holder by Colonel Mustard

ArksNetsSince99 · Post #54 » by **ArksNetsSince99** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:20 pm

Karate Diop wrote:I really hope it's not the Nets...

I second that

Godymas · Post #55 » by **Godymas** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:21 pm

Brooklyn, imo.

They swap Cam Johnson out for Kuminga in a S/T

Post #56 » by **HomoSapien** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:51 pm

Okay, morbid topic.

dc · Post #57 » by dc » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:17 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:
DB23 wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:JK is more talented than Jalen Green who got $36mil a year. Put him on a lotto type team and he can average 23ppg on better efficiency

More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

Better at mid range, slashing, and finishing at the rim.

Only thing Jalen does better is the three points shot and slightly higher bbiq.

Also Kuminga is a better defender who can defend multiple positions. Green is basically a one position player. Kuminga can defend most SGs while also being able to defend Zion. Green isn't going to put on Zion anytime soon.

Biggest disappointment with Kuminga is he's a poor rebounder given his physical attributes.

DB23 · Post #58 » by **DB23** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:19 pm

dc wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:
DB23 wrote:
More talented at what exactly?

I’d take green over him in a heartbeat (salary being equal)

Better at mid range, slashing, and finishing at the rim.

Only thing Jalen does better is the three points shot and slightly higher bbiq.

Also Kuminga is a better defender who can defend multiple positions. Green is basically a one position player. Kuminga can defend most SGs while also being able to defend Zion. Green isn't going to put on Zion anytime soon.

Biggest disappointment with Kuminga is he's a poor rebounder given his physical attributes.

That’s absolutely not true. Kuminga is an awful defender.

dc · Post #59 » by dc » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:22 pm

DB23 wrote:
dc wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:Better at mid range, slashing, and finishing at the rim.

Only thing Jalen does better is the three points shot and slightly higher bbiq.

Also Kuminga is a better defender who can defend multiple positions. Green is basically a one position player. Kuminga can defend most SGs while also being able to defend Zion. Green isn't going to put on Zion anytime soon.

Biggest disappointment with Kuminga is he's a poor rebounder given his physical attributes.

That’s absolutely not true. Kuminga is an awful defender.

He's easily better than Green who can only guard 1 position, LOL.

WiggOuts · Post #60 » by **WiggOuts** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:23 pm

cpower wrote:
WiggOuts wrote:
Prestige wrote:His career was impacted by being drafted by GS. Kerr played around with him too much.

A good example of why lotto talent usually dont want to be drafted to good teams. Theres lots of examples of their development taking a back seat, few examples of things working out perfectly

not really lets see if he pans out wearing another jersey. TBH warriors is the perfect team to start your career, you play along side with HOFs and learning about how to win games. Sadly after 292 games he is still not ready.

i understand why you think this but i dont think it applies to guys who want to become stars. This type of player needs the ball and needs opportunity to fail and learn from it. For guys like Podz and Moody it makes a lot of sense. I think a big part of Kumingas problem is he thinks hes way better than he is