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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#41 » by RHODEY » Tue Oct 7, 2025 6:38 pm

SK21209 wrote:Giannis for OG/Bridges, who are then spun off by Milwaukee to contenders for expiring salary/picks, seems like a pretty good possibility next summer if the Knicks don't make the Finals.


They can have one ..not both. Knicks dont need to gut their team....they are already contenders.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#42 » by Shock Defeat » Tue Oct 7, 2025 6:41 pm

Giannis family is moving from Milwaukee to Athens. It's clear that they don't see Giannis in Milwaukee long term. He could go anywhere, so why live in Milwaukee. Perhaps the direct flights from NY to Athens is a factor...
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#43 » by HotelVitale » Tue Oct 7, 2025 6:56 pm

Shock Defeat wrote:Giannis family is moving from Milwaukee to Athens. It's clear that they don't see Giannis in Milwaukee long term. He could go anywhere, so why live in Milwaukee. Perhaps the direct flights from NY to Athens is a factor...


I don't think this is all that meaningful on its own. Giannis' WHOLE family moved to Athens, all his brothers and their kids etc, plus Giannis' kids are just starting to be school aged so this is a good time to move to your more permanent destination. Plus many many NBA players don't raise families in the city that drafted them, so I'm really not sure this indicates anything other than Giannis wants to be with his family in Greece long term.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#44 » by HotelVitale » Tue Oct 7, 2025 7:01 pm

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Castle Black wrote:Looks like he and the fam have made Greece their permanent offseason home.Good call tbh. Athens is beautiful. Night and day from Milwaukee lol.
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That's not Athens mate. It's the island of Santorini :wink:


Yeah, my first thought was that folks really don't know nothing about Salamis and the Persians and the Pelopennesian Wars? Athens is inland and the closest harbor, the Piraeus, is miles away, they had wooden walls that ran the whole road from city to port.

For real, Greece is beautiful. I don't think anyone would say its cities are super posh but it's probably a nice place to live if you got $$$.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#45 » by jscott » Tue Oct 7, 2025 7:52 pm

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SK21209 wrote:Giannis for OG/Bridges, who are then spun off by Milwaukee to contenders for expiring salary/picks, seems like a pretty good possibility next summer if the Knicks don't make the Finals.


They can have one ..not both. Knicks dont need to gut their team....they are already contenders.

They’re gonna need to give up more than “one of OG/Bridges” to get Giannis.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#46 » by California Gold » Tue Oct 7, 2025 7:56 pm

Only way I can see this happening is if the Knicks gut their assets in a multi team trade or separate trades to get assets that the Bucks want. Would be tough.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#47 » by HotelVitale » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:09 pm

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RHODEY wrote:
SK21209 wrote:Giannis for OG/Bridges, who are then spun off by Milwaukee to contenders for expiring salary/picks, seems like a pretty good possibility next summer if the Knicks don't make the Finals.


They can have one ..not both. Knicks dont need to gut their team....they are already contenders.

They’re gonna need to give up more than “one of OG/Bridges” to get Giannis.


It's realgm, man. For the next 1.5 years Knicks fans will be insisting that Giannis only wants to come to them and they don't have to give up anything real, and if the Bucks want nothing at all for him, fine. They'll ignore that scenarios like that almost never happen (and that getting cap space to sign Giannis would gut the team as much as a decent trade). Meanwhile Bucks fans will insist they have full control over the situation and it will take the complete superstar trade haul to get them to even pick up the phone. They'll ignore the scenarios where older stars who wanted out and had contracts running down didn't net great trade returns or at least definitely had their value driven down some.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#48 » by Wolveswin » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:13 pm

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RHODEY wrote:
SK21209 wrote:Giannis for OG/Bridges, who are then spun off by Milwaukee to contenders for expiring salary/picks, seems like a pretty good possibility next summer if the Knicks don't make the Finals.


They can have one ..not both. Knicks dont need to gut their team....they are already contenders.

They’re gonna need to give up more than “one of OG/Bridges” to get Giannis.

It is simple math equation.

OG OR Bridges
Towns (but Bucks decide if they want him direct or 3rd team for equivalent assets)
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Knicks Picks (which are lol)

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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#49 » by Snakebites » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:17 pm

To my mind there is no direct trade between these two teams that makes any sense.

The Knicks don't have picks or sufficent "future" assets.

A three or four team trade in which the Knicks give up win-now pieces to teams willing to give up picks makes more sense.

Still hard to imagine, and the Bucks won't do it unless Giannis demands it. Which by all accounts he has not done.

Even if the Bucks took back a player like OG I think they'd look to deal him for picks. OG is valuable to a contending team but isn't going to lift the floor much for a bad team.

And yes, the Bridges trade looms as a mistake now. The Knicks were impatient and are now in a weaker position to make a move than they otherwise would have been.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#50 » by KGtabake » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:22 pm

Things will go as follows:

1. If Milwaukee is top3 in the East by February, the season will finish with Giannis on the Bucks.

2. If the season ends with Milwaukee making the Finals, Giannis will sign extension.


If (1) doesn't happen, it's 50-50 for February.
If (1) does happen but (2) doesn't, i think it's a certainty now that Giannis will be traded next summer.

This is a make or break season for the Bucks.
They must make the Finals. Even a conference finals appearance, won't be enough.

Giannis is at the peak of his powers. 30 years of age going for 31.
Sending his family outside of Milwaukee means that he has no real bonds anymore to the city and motives to stay around.
If he wants to keep playing in the US without his family around(we'll see how much this will affect him since he has never done it), he can do it anywhere he wishes without worrying about the kids. That makes NY a strong candidate.

I find it difficult (impossible actually) to believe that Shams is getting all this out of nowhere.
There's definitely smoke because Giannis could have put all this discussion to bed with a single statement. He hasn't.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#51 » by Woodsanity » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:24 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:LOL imagine having the chance to get Giannis but burning 5 of your firsts on Mikal Bridges instead :lol:

Giannis is one of the few players you actually trade 5+ firsts and a great player for. Bridges is not.

I hated the Bridges trade when I first heard about it. He was worth like 2-3 picks max.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#52 » by chrisab123 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:25 pm

Makes sense. Knicks are contenders this year. Even if they weren’t it would still make sense due to the amount of money Giannis would make off endorsements and TV/Movie spots by being in either NY or LA. This is what glamour markets have over regular sized ones.
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Post#53 » by LarsV8 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:26 pm

Houston happy to facilitate.

Brunson to Houston.

FVV / Giannis to NYK

Sheppard/ Towns / picks to the Bucks.

Towns can of course be routed somewhere else for additional assets.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#54 » by Snakebites » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:28 pm

LarsV8 wrote:Houston happy to facilitate.

Brunson to Houston.

FVV / Giannis to NYK

Sheppard/ Towns / picks to the Bucks.

Towns can of course be routed somewhere else for additional assets.

I assume the goal would be to pair Brunson with Giannis.
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Post#55 » by Wolveswin » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:33 pm

To Lakers: Towns/Bucks Filler

To Knicks: Giannis/Kuzma/Kleber

To Bucks: OG/Rui/Reaves/Vincent/Lakers and Knicks picks

Good lineup for Bucks who need to keep winning. Can trade any of those players later if they want more youth/assets.

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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#56 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:46 pm

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SK21209 wrote:Giannis for OG/Bridges, who are then spun off by Milwaukee to contenders for expiring salary/picks, seems like a pretty good possibility next summer if the Knicks don't make the Finals.


They can have one ..not both. Knicks dont need to gut their team....they are already contenders.


Contenders ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let me remind you, The Nix haven’t been in the finals for more than a quarter of a CENTURY!!! and even that it’s huge asterisk as 1999 was a lockout heavily shortened season

Knicks have been a laughing stock for the half of a CENTURY, that’s 50 long years

saying this if Giannis have half a brain and he’s tired of Milwaukee, he should look at the Lakers ,next season Celtics possibly , I would add Spurs and Nuggets although very unlikely to happen , but never ever the Knicks , they going nowhere
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Post#57 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 8:49 pm

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EmpireFalls wrote:LOL imagine having the chance to get Giannis but burning 5 of your firsts on Mikal Bridges instead :lol:

Giannis is one of the few players you actually trade 5+ firsts and a great player for. Bridges is not.

I hated the Bridges trade when I first heard about it. He was worth like 2-3 picks max.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#58 » by JayMKE » Tue Oct 7, 2025 9:52 pm

Shams is a confirmed hack so take his speculative nonsense with a grain of salt. NYC I am sure is an attraction but the Knicks have no way of acquiring Giannis and are fringe contenders at best, the Bucks aren’t giving Giannis away so if that’s the only other team he has an interest in then it’s a good sign because they’re not signing him as a FA or have the assets for a trade.

People thinking Giannis was going to request a trade to OKC, Cleveland, or San Antonio were off their rockers. Unless you think Giannis is signing with Panathinaikos I don’t think you can read much into his family resettling in Athens.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#59 » by RHODEY » Tue Oct 7, 2025 9:53 pm

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RHODEY wrote:
SK21209 wrote:Giannis for OG/Bridges, who are then spun off by Milwaukee to contenders for expiring salary/picks, seems like a pretty good possibility next summer if the Knicks don't make the Finals.


They can have one ..not both. Knicks dont need to gut their team....they are already contenders.


Contenders ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let me remind you, The Nix haven’t been in the finals for more than a quarter of a CENTURY!!! and even that it’s huge asterisk as 1999 was a lockout heavily shortened season

Knicks have been a laughing stock for the half of a CENTURY, that’s 50 long years

saying this if Giannis have half a brain and he’s tired of Milwaukee, he should look at the Lakers ,next season Celtics possibly , I would add Spurs and Nuggets although very unlikely to happen , but never ever the Knicks , they going nowhere


LOL you just love us :naaa: ... brah the Knicks RIGHT NOW are better than all the teams you just named, and then on top of that its the Media capital of the world, he SHOULD want to go there... but the funny thing is they don't need him. They have what they need already to atleast get to the finals.
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Re: Shams: Knicks the Only Team Giannis Desires to Play For Outside of Milwaukee; Both Teams Discussed Potential Trade 

Post#60 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 10:05 pm

Lakers will get involved as will Utah with Kessler, wink, wink
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