Is Kobe the best post-up guard since MJ? Who are the top 5 post-up guards all-time?

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Re: Is Kobe the best post-up guard since MJ? Who are the top 5 post-up guards all-time? 

Post#41 » by JonFromVA » Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:26 am

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JonFromVA wrote:Never going to convince me that a 1.0 ppp is something to brag about in any era since the 70's unless it's the only shot available.

Context. You have to separate half-court and transition, as well as half-court plays and ORB putbacks. The average half-court play was only worth 0.978 ppp in 2024-25. It was 0.889 ppp in 2007-08; PHX was #1 with 0.987 ppp. So, Kobe's post-up plays (which are largely self-created) were comfortably more efficient than an average half-court play from the best offense in the NBA.

FYI Prime Shaq was 0.97 ppp in the post per Dipper 13's tracking.


And he still could have used the attention he drew to do things like push the pace creating more transition opportunities, drive to the hoop, setup teammates near the rim, or kick it out to 3pt shooters which would have generated a much more efficient ppp compared to taking tough contested shots.
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Re: Is Kobe the best post-up guard since MJ? Who are the top 5 post-up guards all-time? 

Post#42 » by RoyceDa59 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:16 am

Jason Kidd was an extremely effective post up player.
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Re: Is Kobe the best post-up guard since MJ? Who are the top 5 post-up guards all-time? 

Post#43 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:31 am

Best post up chucker maybe. Best and second best post defenders were all occupied with Andre Bynum to pay attention to chucker

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