Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range

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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#41 » by MrBigShot » Thu Nov 6, 2025 11:13 pm

The guy is like 7'5 and athletic as hell. Anytime he takes a midrange jumper he is bailing out the defense, he should be trying to literally dunk the ball everytime he posts up. If he can't dunk it, odds are he will at least get fouled.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#42 » by NoStatsGuy » Thu Nov 6, 2025 11:38 pm

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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#43 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:20 am

MrBigShot wrote:The guy is like 7'5 and athletic as hell. Anytime he takes a midrange jumper he is bailing out the defense, he should be trying to literally dunk the ball everytime he posts up. If he can't dunk it, odds are he will at least get fouled.


He dunks pretty regularly. And he gets to the rim on a very high percentage of his shots. He's getting 33.9% of his attempts in the RA so far, and gets more than 3 dunks per game. He's not going to be Shaq; he doesn't have that kind of power in his base. But Wemby is getting to the rim more than MVP Duncan, for point of comparison.

I suspect the criticism here is a little overblown. He's scoring well above league average efficiency (despite his 3 not falling yet) and doing a lot better at basically everything people asked of him last year. He'll continue to improve even from here, but yeah, people are being a little unreasonable.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#44 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:01 am

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dhsilv2 wrote:Maybe. But Wemby's threat is his live dribble and the handoff cut to the rim game. I'm not sure you can build that off of Dirk's game as easily. Not saying you can't of course.


I think the error is in trying to choose one or the other. Even Dirk himself did both ;)

Wemby already takes possessions with his back to the basket in those spaces, and doesn't always activate his dribble when he does. It wouldn't hurt to gain a little more proficiency with those sets. It's something which helped Dirk overcome the "put a shorter guy on him to nullify his speed" move that teams used on him in 06 and 07, for example.

Wemby has a bunch of things to work on, but a thread like this is like... "Yeah, technically, sure...." But it is sort of a forest/trees kind of thing. He's improving quite nicely, but people want everything all at once, which isn't how it works, heh.


yeah I'm not worried at all. I just think KG is the closest to him if he wants to mimic a bit.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#45 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:14 am

dhsilv2 wrote:yeah I'm not worried at all. I just think KG is the closest to him if he wants to mimic a bit.


He's an interesting one. KG was an extremely adept perimeter shooter, but Wemby's much, much better at getting to the rim so far this season. We'll see how much of that lasts, of course, because it's very early, but if this continues, then he has a strength KG never did. And he doesn't have KG's 16- to 20-footer, which he leveraged very specifically. Though I suppose the concepts apply to Wemby's 3 just the same, so it's worth looking at him a little.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#46 » by zimpy27 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:33 am

tsherkin wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:yeah I'm not worried at all. I just think KG is the closest to him if he wants to mimic a bit.


He's an interesting one. KG was an extremely adept perimeter shooter, but Wemby's much, much better at getting to the rim so far this season. We'll see how much of that lasts, of course, because it's very early, but if this continues, then he has a strength KG never did. And he doesn't have KG's 16- to 20-footer, which he leveraged very specifically. Though I suppose the concepts apply to Wemby's 3 just the same, so it's worth looking at him a little.



I've noticed the fouls have kicked up with Wemby's aggressiveness. Maybe that's something to watch.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#47 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:34 am

zimpy27 wrote:
I've noticed the fouls have kicked up with Wemby's aggressiveness. Maybe that's something to watch.


Yep. He's fouled out twice. We'll see if that continues. It's definitely something to keep an eye on.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#48 » by ropjhk » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:46 am

The guy Wemby should be calling for tips in midrange shooting isn't Duncan, Aldridge or even Dirk. It's Yao.

Yao was a terrific midrange shooter and he could give Wemby pointers on how to leverage his size in positioning himself, receiving entry passes and using his height to shoot over defenders. Wemby doesn't need to rely on bank shots or fadeaways.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#49 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 1:48 am

ropjhk wrote:The guy Wemby should be calling for tips in midrange shooting isn't Duncan, Aldridge or even Dirk. It's Yao.

Yao was a terrific midrange shooter and he could give Wemby pointers on how to leverage his size in positioning himself, receiving entry passes and using his height to shoot over defenders. Wemby doesn't need to rely on bank shots or fadeaways.


Yao is an interesting one. He definitely had comparable size, if less mobility. I'd think Wemby would want to look to someone more like KD (whom he already idolizes as a style point), but Yao's a fascinating idea.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#50 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 4:00 am

tsherkin wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:yeah I'm not worried at all. I just think KG is the closest to him if he wants to mimic a bit.


He's an interesting one. KG was an extremely adept perimeter shooter, but Wemby's much, much better at getting to the rim so far this season. We'll see how much of that lasts, of course, because it's very early, but if this continues, then he has a strength KG never did. And he doesn't have KG's 16- to 20-footer, which he leveraged very specifically. Though I suppose the concepts apply to Wemby's 3 just the same, so it's worth looking at him a little.


Very true but he's got a lot of KG's lob threat combined with a face up game. I do like Wemby kinda using a guard like post game, i'd honestly not expected that. A quick back to the basket and spin move. KG did some of this as well. Obviously wemby is getting to the rim easier though young KG did have the ability to blow by guys similar to Wemby. Not maybe this level but early on with Marbury he was pretty slippery.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#51 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 4:02 am

tsherkin wrote:
ropjhk wrote:The guy Wemby should be calling for tips in midrange shooting isn't Duncan, Aldridge or even Dirk. It's Yao.

Yao was a terrific midrange shooter and he could give Wemby pointers on how to leverage his size in positioning himself, receiving entry passes and using his height to shoot over defenders. Wemby doesn't need to rely on bank shots or fadeaways.


Yao is an interesting one. He definitely had comparable size, if less mobility. I'd think Wemby would want to look to someone more like KD (whom he already idolizes as a style point), but Yao's a fascinating idea.


Yao's legs weighed more than Wemby's whole body though. Yao had some of the strongest and thickest tree trunks in the league which also gave him wild stability.

I do like the idea of getting some tips from another true height giant, but their mechanics are going to be so different.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#52 » by HMFFL » Fri Nov 7, 2025 4:40 am

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tsherkin wrote:
ropjhk wrote:The guy Wemby should be calling for tips in midrange shooting isn't Duncan, Aldridge or even Dirk. It's Yao.

Yao was a terrific midrange shooter and he could give Wemby pointers on how to leverage his size in positioning himself, receiving entry passes and using his height to shoot over defenders. Wemby doesn't need to rely on bank shots or fadeaways.


Yao is an interesting one. He definitely had comparable size, if less mobility. I'd think Wemby would want to look to someone more like KD (whom he already idolizes as a style point), but Yao's a fascinating idea.


Yao's legs weighed more than Wemby's whole body though. Yao had some of the strongest and thickest tree trunks in the league which also gave him wild stability.

I do like the idea of getting some tips from another true height giant, but their mechanics are going to be so different.
Yao's legs are what retired him.
Stress fractures and broken bones, so that's not very strong.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#53 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:14 am

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dhsilv2 wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Yao is an interesting one. He definitely had comparable size, if less mobility. I'd think Wemby would want to look to someone more like KD (whom he already idolizes as a style point), but Yao's a fascinating idea.


Yao's legs weighed more than Wemby's whole body though. Yao had some of the strongest and thickest tree trunks in the league which also gave him wild stability.

I do like the idea of getting some tips from another true height giant, but their mechanics are going to be so different.
Yao's legs are what retired him.
Stress fractures and broken bones, so that's not very strong.


That's a structural issue. In terms of balance, getting position...the man was a monster. His weight as extremely bottom heavy. From a movement and basketball body type it's weirdly as similar in height and not similar in build as can be.

now maybe this is what lead to Yao's injuries? But my dude had tree trunks!

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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#54 » by DusterBuster » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:16 am

Why are we trying to make Wemby better?
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#55 » by RSP83 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:18 am

There's only one move I want him to master next, The Skyhook.

When that happens, it's over.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#56 » by eyeatoma » Fri Nov 7, 2025 6:12 am

Joel Embiid has one of the best face up games and has made it resemble Kobe/Durant/MJ/Dirk. Minus the flopping lol.

He should model his mid range after him. Honestly though, he's almost 8 feet tall, just park him under the rim and have him hit 50 alleyoops. Least 10-15 will go down or he'll get fouled.
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#57 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 10:50 am

dhsilv2 wrote:Very true but he's got a lot of KG's lob threat combined with a face up game.


That's certainly true, yes.

I do like Wemby kinda using a guard like post game, i'd honestly not expected that.


It makes sense. He has difficulty with base, because his center of gravity is so high and he is so spindly. He doesn't have power, so he uses what he does have, which includes the ability to be all the way to the rim with a single step and those go-go-Gadget arms.

KG was certainly quick and an adept face-up guy when he was younger.

dhsilv2 wrote:Yao's legs weighed more than Wemby's whole body though. Yao had some of the strongest and thickest tree trunks in the league which also gave him wild stability.

I do like the idea of getting some tips from another true height giant, but their mechanics are going to be so different.


Yes, but there's something I think in the mentality which is a little more appropriate. Yao had base, stability as you say. But he also had the willingness to just put a jumper over top of you, and Wemby has that ability as well.
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Post#58 » by AleksandarN » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:38 pm

No he should be under the tutorage of Jokic. Come to Denver Wemby we could use a new SF. A Jokic AG Wemby front line would be the best in the league
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#59 » by Lalouie » Fri Nov 7, 2025 9:54 pm

that's what giannis should have done

10yrs from now the nba will rethink the 3 being an essential need for a center...make that 5yrs

center with a 3 is a pile of doo-doo, it makes a center an illiterate rebounder and just gives play by play a chance to fall all over themselves,,,,and adds hilites to espn
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Re: Wemby needs to workout with LaMarcus Aldridge and Duncan to master his mid range 

Post#60 » by tsherkin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 10:44 pm

Lalouie wrote:that's what giannis should have done


In his defense, he IS expanding his mid-range game.

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