Weird Standings, Which teams would rise/fade after 30 games?

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Re: Weird Standings, Which teams would rise/fade after 30 games? 

Post#41 » by Syd-TK3 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:35 pm

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Syd-TK3 wrote:I personally think the Bulls run is fake rn and they'll drop back to being a playin team.
Im tempted to say detroit is too because of the easy schedule but I love Cade and their defense is pretty legit


The Pistons are yet to face a lot of the top West teams, but I'm not sure I'd describe their schedule as "easy". They've played 4/10 of their games against teams .500 or above (2-2 in those) and 6/10 against teams below .500 (6-0). Only 4/10 of their games have been played in Detroit. Their SOS so far ranks as 15th in the league so bang on average, although it's early days so some teams' records will be over or underinflated.

Also should be noted their remaining strength of schedule over the next 70 games is .477, tied at easiest in the league along with the Bulls and Raptors (again, subject to change given the small sample size so far this season).

I just feel they've beaten the teams that they should have beaten and loss to the ones they should have
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Re: Weird Standings, Which teams would rise/fade after 30 games? 

Post#42 » by tamaraw08 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:23 pm

bisme37 wrote:I noticed Knicks are 5-0 at home but 0-3 on the road.

That's my post.


All 3 losses were against 3 pretty good teams though. They should be able to rack up road wins over Hornets, Mavs, Nets after Nov 27.
I also think they can beat Miami and Orlando on the road.
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Re: Weird Standings, Which teams would rise/fade after 30 games? 

Post#43 » by tamaraw08 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:25 pm

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Mr Peanut wrote:Pistons probably won't remain the #1 seed (I see the Cavs there), but will be near the top. They've already had a reasonable amount of injury trouble to key guys but still continue to roll through. I find it humorous when people assume NY will come out ahead - there's a large faction of fans that realize if Detroit was fully healthy in last season's playoffs, as well as getting the correct foul call at the end of the game 4, that they likely would've won the series. And so far this season it looks like Cade/Duren/Ausar/Stew/Holland have all taken another step forward.

Chicago will drop but wouldn't be surprised to see them in the 6th seed range. Orlando should improve.


We realize. that.But Do you realize NY still won in 6 by mostly playing starter heavy minutes ? They also added seriously depth and have a coach now who nows how to utilize it. They have also improved as a team.

I like Detroit but I don't see them as quite on NY's level. Mainly because there is no true 2nd option and the loss of both Beasley, Schroeder, and Hardaway ( players that gave NY fits) is underrated.


I also would not lie and pretend that I didn't predict that Detroit would struggle without Beasley, Schroder and THJ. But like what the other poster said, they are playing good defense lately.
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Re: Weird Standings, Which teams would rise/fade after 30 games? 

Post#44 » by RHODEY » Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:58 pm

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RHODEY wrote:
Mr Peanut wrote:Pistons probably won't remain the #1 seed (I see the Cavs there), but will be near the top. They've already had a reasonable amount of injury trouble to key guys but still continue to roll through. I find it humorous when people assume NY will come out ahead - there's a large faction of fans that realize if Detroit was fully healthy in last season's playoffs, as well as getting the correct foul call at the end of the game 4, that they likely would've won the series. And so far this season it looks like Cade/Duren/Ausar/Stew/Holland have all taken another step forward.

Chicago will drop but wouldn't be surprised to see them in the 6th seed range. Orlando should improve.


We realize. that.But Do you realize NY still won in 6 by mostly playing starter heavy minutes ? They also added seriously depth and have a coach now who nows how to utilize it. They have also improved as a team.

I like Detroit but I don't see them as quite on NY's level. Mainly because there is no true 2nd option and the loss of both Beasley, Schroeder, and Hardaway ( players that gave NY fits) is underrated.


I also would not lie and pretend that I didn't predict that Detroit would struggle without Beasley, Schroder and THJ. But like what the other poster said, they are playing good defense lately.


Yep their defense is very good.
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Post#45 » by JasonStern » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:17 am

JRoy wrote:I worry about PORs outside shooting.

Sharpe is really stinking it up.


I will never understand the Sharpe hate.
For the ONE MILLIONTH time, the entire team outside of Grant (this season - in Dame, we pray) is below average at 3 point shooting. Master Splitter going on about "it's just a shooting slump" - no. The team cannot shoot from distance. And "we made the correct read and got the ball to the open player" - yes. They are open for a reason. Defenses know they aren't making the shot.
Sharpe specifically is solid in that Aldridge style mid-range jumper, and elite in the protected area. Do that!
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Post#46 » by JRoy » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:20 am

JasonStern wrote:
JRoy wrote:I worry about PORs outside shooting.

Sharpe is really stinking it up.


I will never understand the Sharpe hate.
For the ONE MILLIONTH time, the entire team outside of Grant (this season - in Dame, we pray) is below average at 3 point shooting. Master Splitter going on about "it's just a shooting slump" - no. The team cannot shoot from distance. And "we made the correct read and got the ball to the open player" - yes. They are open for a reason. Defenses know they aren't making the shot.
Sharpe specifically is solid in that Aldridge style mid-range jumper, and elite in the protected area. Do that!


I am a Sharpe fan, but his 3 has gotten worse every year. Does he need glasses?
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Re: Weird Standings, Which teams would rise/fade after 30 games? 

Post#47 » by JasonStern » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:26 am

JRoy wrote:
JasonStern wrote:
JRoy wrote:I worry about PORs outside shooting.

Sharpe is really stinking it up.


I will never understand the Sharpe hate.
For the ONE MILLIONTH time, the entire team outside of Grant (this season - in Dame, we pray) is below average at 3 point shooting. Master Splitter going on about "it's just a shooting slump" - no. The team cannot shoot from distance. And "we made the correct read and got the ball to the open player" - yes. They are open for a reason. Defenses know they aren't making the shot.
Sharpe specifically is solid in that Aldridge style mid-range jumper, and elite in the protected area. Do that!


I am a Sharpe fan, but his 3 has gotten worse every year. Does he need glasses?


Probably not. I imagine that would have been identified by now. He needs to a shooting coach and development. And to stop shooting 3s instead of using open space as an ability to drive and open up other offensive players. The latter falling on the coaches for letting him do so.

It's just... passive. As I posted this, Sharpe just made a 7 foot jumper to tie the Magic game at 110-110. Meanwhile they went 14-51 against the Heat. At what point do you go "this offensive plan isn't working?" Apparently not even after 50 attempts.
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