Back by Popular Demand: Michael Jordan Bashing Teammates

mattyBoi · Post #41 » by **mattyBoi** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:02 pm

chitownsports4ever wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:Unfortunately, that nastiness is what made him the player he was. Can you be nice and still win? Certainly. But for Mike, it's hard to argue with the results.

Exactly and I think whats gets left out is how physical the game was . Jordan was doing what he needed to prepare his team for the wars they went through with the knicks and Pistons . There was no time for being soft and wanting a hug like todays players . He put himself into a position where his team feared him more than the opponent and it was always about winning the title. Not winning MVP,making the playoffs ,a new deal or any of that .

This. Think of Michael as the Bulls own personal drill sargeant. He said what he said because he wanted people to be their best and he wanted to win, not just to put them down.

Sedale Threatt · Post #42 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:09 pm

I think it's hard to argue that Jordan said what he said in the name of pure motivation. I'm sure that was part of it at times, but there is a level of scorn and contempt in his words that is absolutely impossible to miss. He's just a mean-spirited person, someone who took a pot shot at his own kids during his recent acceptance speech. I don't condemn him for that -- far from it -- but at the same time, it shouldn't be soft pedaled, either.

jaypo · Post #43 » by **jaypo** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:22 pm

I think it's hilarious that MJ, the global icon, said things like that, and this is the first I've heard of many of them. HOWEVER, Shaq says something like "Howard is an imposter because he hasn't accomplished what I have". And people ripped the flesh from his bones!

Realgm- where DOUBLE STANDARDS happen! Constantly!

raps4life~ · Post #44 » by **raps4life~** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:24 pm

some of yall giving jordan an easy pass for some of these nasty quotes. truth is jordan was a punk ass bitch. he wasn't saying it for any other reason than to yap. if he really wanted to "motivate" others, than why does he still act like a douche, even today? there are countless stories about how jordan acted like a douche in at all sorts of events, not to mention that HOF PC.

FakeScreenName123 · Post #45 » by **FakeScreenName123** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:30 pm

raps4life~ wrote:some of yall giving jordan an easy pass for some of these nasty quotes. truth is jordan was a punk ass bitch. he wasn't saying it for any other reason than to yap. if he really wanted to "motivate" others, than why does he still act like a douche, even today? there are countless stories about how jordan acted like a douche in at all sorts of events, not to mention that HOF PC.

LOL. I'm convinced you're a parody.

Jordan was one of the, if not the toughest (mentally + physically combined) ever to play the game. He is anything but a punk ass bitch. Dont even argue that. Dont do it. Dont. You cant win.

This is what people do. They give each other a hard time and joke and get at other people occasionally. You really think this kind of talk doesnt happen in lockerrooms today? It's not a big deal. If those players are so mentally weak to get upset about that then how the hell did they ever make it into the NBA.

The ironic part is, If you asked Will Purdue to either a) not play with michael jordan and not get made fun of or b) PLay with michael jordan, get rings, play with the best player on the planet and deal with the jokes about him occasionally if he had any humor to himself would be able to laugh at, I would guess that Will fricken Purdue would choose option b 100/100 times.

Sedale Threatt · Post #46 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Thu Mar 4, 2010 7:31 pm

You can call Jordan a lot of things, but a bitch isn't one of them. He was anything but that.

Post #47 » by **blkout** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 3:25 am

jaypo wrote:I think it's hilarious that MJ, the global icon, said things like that, and this is the first I've heard of many of them. HOWEVER, Shaq says something like "Howard is an imposter because he hasn't accomplished what I have". And people ripped the flesh from his bones!

Realgm- where DOUBLE STANDARDS happen! Constantly!

It's not the same thing. They were Jordan's teammates, he was the leader of that team and in his own way was holding them accountable for their play. I.e the "He's causing me too many turnovers" quote, he could've worded it better but essentially he's calling the guy out for turning the ball over too much. Shaq was talking **** about someone on another team about something ridiculous like a nickname (not that he doesn't have a point but still).

Phastbreak91 · Post #48 » by **Phastbreak91** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 4:33 am

Jordan has the right to say all those things, douchbaggery and all. He did bring the Bulls 6 championships and a ton of marketing success.

Volcano · Post #49 » by **Volcano** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 4:48 am

Jordan's a dick to people he doesn't think are significant, but you still have to admire his competitiveness.

Also, if Wade was healthy and complaining + talking trash about his D-league teammates a few years back, I'm sure everyone would be nodding their head in agreement.

KDoverLBJanyday · Post #50 » by **KDoverLBJanyday** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 5:41 am

"I hope there's a jumpshot in there." - Michael to Stacey King who was walking into the locker room with a box.

This one had me rolling.

Sn0wman · Post #51 » by **Sn0wman** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 5:55 am

"You ever hear of a guy, six-eleven maybe and two hundred sixty pounds, a guy big and fat like that and he can't get but two rebounds, if that many, running all over the damn court and he gets two rebounds? Big guy like that and he gets one rebound. Can't even stick his ass into people and get more than that...Big, fat, fat guy. One rebound in three games. Power forward. Maybe they should call it powerless forward." - Michael ripping Stacey King a new one

Lol, Bosh needs to tell this to Bargs

jaypo · Post #52 » by **jaypo** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 2:07 pm

FakeScreenName123 wrote:
raps4life~ wrote:some of yall giving jordan an easy pass for some of these nasty quotes. truth is jordan was a punk ass bitch. he wasn't saying it for any other reason than to yap. if he really wanted to "motivate" others, than why does he still act like a douche, even today? there are countless stories about how jordan acted like a douche in at all sorts of events, not to mention that HOF PC.

LOL. I'm convinced you're a parody.

Jordan was one of the, if not the toughest (mentally + physically combined) ever to play the game. He is anything but a punk ass bitch. Dont even argue that. Dont do it. Dont. You cant win.

This is what people do. They give each other a hard time and joke and get at other people occasionally. You really think this kind of talk doesnt happen in lockerrooms today? It's not a big deal. If those players are so mentally weak to get upset about that then how the hell did they ever make it into the NBA.

The ironic part is, If you asked Will Purdue to either a) not play with michael jordan and not get made fun of or b) PLay with michael jordan, get rings, play with the best player on the planet and deal with the jokes about him occasionally if he had any humor to himself would be able to laugh at, I would guess that Will fricken Purdue would choose option b 100/100 times.

Well if everything is a joke and is acceptable, why does it become national news when Shaq calls Howard an "imposter?" Why is Shaq villainized for RESPONDING to stupid questions about him? But Jordan punks somebody out in front of his family for having a bad game, and it's just that "he's ultra competitive, so it's okay". Ridiculous.

DumbyTheWizard · Post #53 » by **DumbyTheWizard** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 6:28 pm

Mamba Venom wrote:There is an i in six.

No i in ELEVEN

Jordan23Forever · Post #54 » by **Jordan23Forever** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 6:43 pm

jaypo wrote:Well if everything is a joke and is acceptable, why does it become national news when Shaq calls Howard an "imposter?" Why is Shaq villainized for RESPONDING to stupid questions about him? But Jordan punks somebody out in front of his family for having a bad game, and it's just that "he's ultra competitive, so it's okay". Ridiculous.

Nowhere does it say that he said that IN FRONT of the dude's family. It said that the guy was sorting through tix for his family (i.e., tix intended for his family's use).

Shot Clock · Post #55 » by **Shot Clock** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 6:49 pm

Have any of you guys been on a team before? I mean I hear worse then that on rec teams.

SilverFlight · Post #56 » by **SilverFlight** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 7:46 pm

Yeah, these quotes aren't even that harsh. If anything, it makes Michael look like a comedian. Funny guy. And 6 Championships to boot!

litex · Post #57 » by **litex** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 7:50 pm

MJ was a world class a-hole.

Seriously, if the man hadn't also happened to be the greatest basketball player of the time, he'd just be another lonely, miserable, bitter old man with no true friends and a family that hates him, desperately searching for an outlet with which to validate his bloated, all-consuming ego.

Oddly enough, the man *was* the greatest basketball player of all time, and he's still all of those things.

Every great athlete is gonna be cocky to a certain extent, and many are downright douches.

But Jordan is up there in the argument with Rick Barry and Ty Cobb for all time sports bastards.

The Big Dog · Post #58 » by **The Big Dog** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 9:33 pm

litex wrote:MJ was a world class a-hole.

Seriously, if the man hadn't also happened to be the greatest basketball player of the time, he'd just be another lonely, miserable, bitter old man with no true friends and a family that hates him, desperately searching for an outlet with which to validate his bloated, all-consuming ego.

Oddly enough, the man *was* the greatest basketball player of all time, and he's still all of those things.

Every great athlete is gonna be cocky to a certain extent, and many are downright douches.

But Jordan is up there in the argument with Rick Barry and Ty Cobb for all time sports bastards.

It's not a coincidence that he was an competitive, bitter a-hole and the world's greatest basketball player, that all-consuming competitiveness fueled him.

Teko · Post #59 » by **Teko** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 10:12 pm

writerman wrote:Funny? No. Sickening? Yes.

As big an ego as Wilt had, he was never the total **** that Jordan was. Jordan might have been a great ballplayer, but he was a nasty person, and some of his worst nastiness was focused on whites--just plain racist. Can you imagine the furor if Bird had said something like that about Robert Parish? He'd have been run out of the league by the PC posse...but Jordan gets a pass...

You are actually the one sound racist... :roll:

J-Mezzy · Post #60 » by **J-Mezzy** » Fri Mar 5, 2010 11:30 pm

LOL at the people here admiring him for this. He was a douche. I'm fine with that. I'd still want him on my team if I was a player, coach, gm, fan, but that doesn't mean he is not a douche and a bitter angry man. Winning doesn't replace class and respect. There are certain things one expects of a human being regardless if you are a garbage man or MJ.

Again, it is not a big deal to me because I would take him on my team every time, but that stop being blinded by your love for the man. He has always and will always be a world class a-hole.