Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy

[Greek]

Stupid stupid act from Giannis but lets not act like he is a kind of douche guy. His 1st post season, he got a good lesson. I dont think that he will create any bad reputation from this.

Dun from the other side, i would be even worse with him than my namesake

[Murk]

had you played the cavs in the first round you do realize you would be saying go Bulls right now right?

And some celtics fans would be in here talking about go Cavs lol

Not true. Between Gasol's flopping and whining on every play, Dunleavy's behind the scenes cheap play, and Butler running his mouth constantly, not to mention just having to watch Noah in general, the Bulls are a very unlikable bunch. Love and respect Rose, but that's it in your starting five. Keep in mind many Bucks fans didn't even like Dunleavy when he was in Milwaukee.

But does anyone actually care?

[tmorgan]

The bottom line from all of this is that the League is letting everything go. Not sure why, but it could certainly lead to some more loose teeth in the playoffs.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

What point is that? That he is a hothead who can be taken out of a game? Giannis is going to get a lot more of that now. An NBA player will happily take being body-blocked in exchange for getting a starter ejected, particularly when that player is a role guy like Mike.

This.

To add to it, they will gladly take a body check if it means WINNING. That's the goal. If someome throws an elbow, you throw one back. Someone shoves you, you shove back. They play physical, you play physical. You don't tackle a guy because it doesn't help your team win.

All of you guys on here talking about retribution and calling people babies are the real babies. "Oh he gave me an elbow he deserved it." Boo hoo. You sound like 5 year olds saying,"he hit me first." Shove him back and put some damn points on the board.

Sorry, but you would have been knocked right on your ass by Zo or Oakley back in the day right after you told them how mentally weak they were. Of course you retaliate. Of course you do. If you're a jerk you retaliate with a flying elbow to the head ala Mailman and send the guy to the hospital. If you are a kid in these later days its just a flying shoulder block into the mid body.

But the beauty of this was: Giannis waited until it did not hurt his team. Dunleavy gained no advantage here. The game, series, and season was over THEN Giannis punked him. As I said: good. Giannis does this in Game 2 and takes himself out of the series, not so good. Then you lose. You need your guys to bottle things while you need them to compete. But once things in the game were already settled, good a time as any to settle up with the cheap shot artist. No whining to the refs. Playground rules. Unprovoked, then you are the punk. Provoked? No problem with it at all.

I recall Mailman elbowed Isaih Thomas in the head once, and Thomas bled profusely. Another time, Mailman knocked David Robinson out with an elbow. Karl Malone was ruthless with the elbows, not particularly caring if a guy's head got in the way.

(I'm not the biggest Shaq fan, but I commend him for going an entire career without maliciously injuring guys. Not one I can think of. Shaq hurt guys on accident at the end of his career, when O'Neal was just old and slow.)

Winsome Gerbil, what I don't like is the league gave Dunleavy ONLY a flagrant one for what started the whole mess, his first cheap shot on MCW. The second hit, the one that made Giannis go off, came with the Bulls ahead by something near 40 points. It was a bush league hit. To me, the league essentially rewarded Dunleavy. It was very bush league to hit the Giannis in the face area and push him down. Should have been another flagrant one, as it was unnecessary/excessive.

You and I agree, WG, that what that kid did at the end of the game was okay. To me it was like a "righteous", old-school move.

[Ice Man]

I recall Mailman elbowed Isaih Thomas in the head once, and Thomas bled profusely.

40 stitches. The Mailman was dirty. And keep him away from your 12 year old daughter.

[stillgotgame]

After watching the fight tonight, Dunleavy learned to fight from Mayweather - hit while he's not looking and run like a pussy

[CellarDoor]

For those of you (so far only Bulls fans) who think that the series was dirty both ways, what did the Bucks do that was equivalent to:

- Dunleavy punching a defenseless MCW in the face/throat
- Dunleavy pushing Giannis in the throat
- Brooks elbowing Bayless in the chest
- Gibson elbowing Mayo in the head
- Mirotic slamming Zaza on the ground

?

All of them looked intentional.

I'll give you the Zaza elbow (not as bad as the Gibson elbow though) and the Giannis body check.

The Bulls definitely seemed dirtier.

- Dunleavy punching a defenseless MCW in the face/throat
---Looks pretty bad. Not a smart play.
- Dunleavy pushing Giannis in the throat
---This one is weak. Giannis flops a bit to make it worse. There obviously wasn't enough force to really endanger anyone.
- Brooks elbowing Bayless in the chest
---I have absolutely not recollection of this...maybe I missed it?
- Gibson elbowing Mayo in the head
---Stupid play by Gibson
- Mirotic slamming Zaza on the ground
---on that same play Zaza threw himself back into Nikola when they were on the ground, basically trying to reverse headbutt him. I remember calling this one out specifically.

On the Bucks' side...
-Zaza's elbow on Miro, which to me was pretty weak and not deserving of a technical.
-Zaza's reverse headbutt. This was worse to me.
-Giannis' tackle
-Giannis trying to trip Butler from the ground on a Bulls' fast break. I still maintain this is the worst of the Bucks' ones. Mainly because you're grabbing near knees and if Butler lost balance he's taking out Rose too.

So, five to Chicago, four to Milwaukee (though the video a few pages back of the rebound with Dunleavy and Giannis could easily match against Miro's "slam" for me. Giannis has to go out of his way to REhook Dunleavy's arm.) From the one's I've seen I'd say worst to best (considering circumstance, potential for injury, etc, intention, etc)
Dunleavy punch
Giannis trip
Giannis tackle
Gibson elbow
Zaza headbutt
Dunleavy's "throat push", Zaza's Eblow, Miro "slam"

butler flopped when he got "ripped to the ground" he barely got grazed..

tripped, not ripped is what I said. And in either instance I'm talking about the attempt. To attempt to do that is bush league at best.

[Yoshun]

Even Giannis agrees it shouldn't have happened:

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237646/Antetokounmpo-Remorseful-For-Flagrant-Foul-On-Dunleavy

He's a young kid that got caught up in the moment. Dunleavy was throwing cheap shots at teammates and his team was getting destroyed. He let the game get the best of him and he let Dunleavy inside his head. I like Giannis, I hope he learned from this so he doesn't hurt his team in the future. Good for him for being the big man.

[GoldenAntlers]

Dunleavy is dirty player. I actually cheered when I saw what Giannis did, the goon had it coming.

Giannis will learn from this, too much over reaction to what he did and under reaction to what Dunleavy has done his whole career. What a dirt ball.

[Leto]

So punching people mid air in the neck ,stirring the **** in the game doesn't justify a suspension but because Perkins didnt got punished it means its justified?
Since when you fix something bad with another bad. NBA is simply not even sticking with their own rules which in this occasion both Dunleavy and Perkins would get ejected.
It seems like NBA endorses dirty plays, its hilarious.

It does not mean it's "justified." It means that you can't show a bias for the Cavs or any other team and that's what happened here.

Like I said, I think the punishment should be a suspension for similar acts, but it isn't what the NBA is doing right now. So, you can't just start doing it for Dunleavy. Why is this hard to understand?

Why it means unbiased, why it cannot mean that NBA officiating is simply a joke ?
It should be clear as day that any form of dirty play that can injure a player should be punished and not endorsed by any means, its doesn't matter who is the player or for which team he plays.

Perkins got called on this while dunleavy didn't got a single call in 3 clearly flagrant fouls, why is it so hard to understand this ?
Why Giannis according to this gets suspended 1 game for the intention of the foul when you clearly see Dunleavy intentionally punches MCW mid air on the neck, then goes for the same thing on Giannis and even after all this crap that happen he does it again on MCW.
This is just ridiculous.

Why is it so hard to understand that if the NBA is NOT going to mete out a punishment for Perkins they cannot mete out a punishment for Dunleavy for doing almost the exact same thing.

That is an entirely separate issue from whether or not hitting someone in the neck should be punishable by a suspension.

[Leto]

All this crap started with the Bucks and the dirty play of Zaza on Mirotic. The Bucks are dirty. Their coach is dirty and it carries over to their team.

[th87]

All this crap started with the Bucks and the dirty play of Zaza on Mirotic. The Bucks are dirty. Their coach is dirty and it carries over to their team.

Yes, Dunleavy is a time lord having foreknowledge of Zaza's actions on Mirotic, causing Dunleavy to retroactively become one of the dirtiest players in the NBA for the entirety of his career.

[th87]

All this crap started with the Bucks and the dirty play of Zaza on Mirotic. The Bucks are dirty. Their coach is dirty and it carries over to their team.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BquCMHrHA8o[/youtube]

And this was first.

[madmaxmedia]

Hey bud...what did the site look like back in 2001 when you joined?

https://web.archive.org/web/20010203183600/http://realgm.com/

Thanks appreciate.

LOL, was just gonna post an archive link too. A lot of the graphics were obviously (very) different, but the site itself has been more or less the same (I think in a good way), at least the forums. I think it was originally just basketball, they added the other sports later which don't seem to be as popular here.