Zion Williamson in the NBA?

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Re: Zion Williamson in the NBA? 

Post#401 » by INKtastic » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:18 am

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abark wrote:Because he's been measured at 6-5.5 without shoes. But if we use that standard, then we should subtract 2 inches from nearly every player in the league.

I absolutely hate the concept of measuring in shoes, but if we are going to accept it, we should at least be consistent.

Justise Winslow's barefoot measurement was 6-4.5 at the NBA combine, but he's listed at 6-7.

Listed heights in basketball are a joke to begin with, but Zion's "NBA Height" will not be below 6-7.



Maybe because nba players play with shoes on, or do they play bare feet now?

Is shoe wearing exclusive to the NBA? I walked outside today and EVERYONE was wearing shoes. But if I asked any of those people how tall they were and they answered "with or without shoes," they'd be looked at like they were idiots. It's only in the NBA where that wouldn't be viewed as a stupid response.

I'm just over 6 feet tall "barefoot", which is a thing I shouldn't even have to specify. But if I walked around saying I was 6'2 or 6'3 (depending on how much I padded my shoes the last time I was measured) I'd be laughed at.

Other sports dont measure their players in shoes, even though every other sport requires some type of shoe. And what about hockey, where they play not only skates, but helmets too? If they used your logic, players could end up listed at least 5 inches taller than what they really are. Not sure what the real number would be, but it'd be absurd.

The answer you gave is the answer that is always given, but it doesn't make it a good response. It creates unnecessary variability in player heights. Some players are listed almost 3 inches taller than they are, while others are actually listed accurately. Why add that degree of variability?


The players Zion is compared height wise are also listed with measurements wearing shoes. Presumably all with about the same height added with the shoes. The NBA does it different than everyone else, as long as they are consistent, it really doesn't matter.
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Re: Zion Williamson in the NBA? 

Post#402 » by abark » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:46 am

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abark wrote:
alebaba wrote:

Maybe because nba players play with shoes on, or do they play bare feet now?

Is shoe wearing exclusive to the NBA? I walked outside today and EVERYONE was wearing shoes. But if I asked any of those people how tall they were and they answered "with or without shoes," they'd be looked at like they were idiots. It's only in the NBA where that wouldn't be viewed as a stupid response.

I'm just over 6 feet tall "barefoot", which is a thing I shouldn't even have to specify. But if I walked around saying I was 6'2 or 6'3 (depending on how much I padded my shoes the last time I was measured) I'd be laughed at.

Other sports dont measure their players in shoes, even though every other sport requires some type of shoe. And what about hockey, where they play not only skates, but helmets too? If they used your logic, players could end up listed at least 5 inches taller than what they really are. Not sure what the real number would be, but it'd be absurd.

The answer you gave is the answer that is always given, but it doesn't make it a good response. It creates unnecessary variability in player heights. Some players are listed almost 3 inches taller than they are, while others are actually listed accurately. Why add that degree of variability?


The players Zion is compared height wise are also listed with measurements wearing shoes. Presumably all with about the same height added with the shoes. The NBA does it different than everyone else, as long as they are consistent, it really doesn't matter.

That's my point though. They aren't consistent.

Justise Winslow measured at 6'4.5 and Lebron measured at 6'7.25 (barefoot), but their listed heights are only 1 inch apart.

Kevin Love only measured half an inch taller than Lebron, but his listed height is 2 inches taller. These numbers fluctuate depending on how much players decide to pad their shoes for the "shoe height."

Durant is probably the weirdest height in the league as he is 6'10.75 barefoot, but he's somehow listed at 6'9. This one is a mystery to me.

I get the issue of a player being listed an inch or 2 off is not really a big deal in the grand scheme, but it's completely avoidable.

Really my biggest issue with this standard is that most fans dont get how this system works. That's how you end up with people smearing Zion as being 6'5 (which might not technically be inaccurate), but it is completely misleading.

There's no reason for this in what should be a very simple, straightforward measurement.

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