Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps

[Pharmcat]

this is a horrific trade for the bucks. 5 picks for Holiday is crazy, he cannot take over a game and be that guy.

[LivingLegend]

this is a horrific trade for the bucks. 5 picks for Holiday is crazy, he cannot take over a game and be that guy.

It was a overpay for sure but its a overpay the Bucks needed to make to keep Giannis.

[Noctilux]

Shams won this deal by KO!

[DaPessimist]

Jrue Holiday is in danger of becoming the most overrated player in the history of the sport. The guy made one All-Star team in a terribad Eastern Conference, and how many 1st round picks have been traded for him now?

[Jadoogar]

Essentially 5 first round picks was a steal?

WOWWWWW what a steal for the bucks....my god

I was hoping bucks would screw this up

How was that the highest bid for Jrue Holiday?

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Yes, if this convinces Giannis to sign a supermax. If Giannis opts in, this team is a guaranteed top-5 team in the NBA record-wise for the length of Giannis' contract (barring injury). So how much are five (in reality 3 because the pick swaps wouldn't trigger) picks in the 25-30 range really worth?

And if he leaves?
That's why it's most certainly not a steal for the bucks. From the Pelicans perspective, they got 5 picks for a guy who's expiring and doesn't fit their timeline.

[Pharmcat]

this is a horrific trade for the bucks. 5 picks for Holiday is crazy, he cannot take over a game and be that guy.

It was a overpay for sure but its a overpay the Bucks needed to make to keep Giannis.

if you are going to give up 5 picks, you go for stars like harden, not Jrue Holiday.

[NoZoLakers]

one Raptors ring is worth so much more than a Laker ring. it was so much more exciting for the league.

lol don't worry we'll be back for more while your fan base dream of greek in tor fades n build right way? you had a once in a lifetime trade, i guess trading for Kawahi wasnt "buy" it huh? lol

i’m not a Raptors fan. i was a LeBron fan until he joined the Lakers. now i just want what’s interesting for the league. the Lakers winning a 17th or 18th ring is boring. i’d rather see the Clippers or Bucks or Nets. someone new. LeBrons Laker rings mean nothing.

and yes i agree he will probably win another one there. the Lakers win all the time. it’s not interesting at all.

according to you

[Madvillainy2004]

If the Bucks kept Brogdon i feel they couldve avoided doing moves like this. I agree the Bucks had to make this trade but only because their past incompetence put them into this mess in the first place.

[ropjhk]

If Giannis resigns with the Bucks that would make them the winners of the trade.

[Woodsanity]

Lol this is a massive overpay. Pels got out like bandits. If Giannis walks Bucks are screwed and no I do not believe Jrue is enough of a game changer to make a huge different. Elite defender but not exactly a great offensive Pg.

[Duke4life831]

this is a horrific trade for the bucks. 5 picks for Holiday is crazy, he cannot take over a game and be that guy.

It was a overpay for sure but its a overpay the Bucks needed to make to keep Giannis.

if you are going to give up 5 picks, you go for stars like harden, not Jrue Holiday.

Well good thing they didn't give up 5 picks then.

[zshawn10]

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[Smirk]

Unprotecteds in 2025 and 2027 is NOICE. *chef's kiss*

[LikeABosh]

this is a horrific trade for the bucks. 5 picks for Holiday is crazy, he cannot take over a game and be that guy.

3. Not 5. Big difference between a 1st and a contender's pick swap to a lottery team which may not even mean anything

[Hello Brooklyn]

Bledsoe made All Defense last year unlike Holiday. Theres not a big difference. And George Hill is really good too.

This doesn't really make them better. Sorry.

The all-defensive team is kind of a sham. i mean brook freaking lopez made it. alot of bucks made it cause statistically they had good D. Tons including durant have said this offseason Jrue is the best defender out there.

He is also better then Bledsoe offensively. George Hill has been on a pretty steep downward trajectory the last couple years. he is basically a spot up shooter at this point.

The problem with the deal for the bucks is its 2 pick swaps and 3 picks and Giannis will 100% leave them in free agency and those picks will be decent, maybe lotto, maybe top 6. But Jrue definitely makes them better.

Like my above post, a lot of similar weaknesses between Holiday and Bledsoe (efficiency, volume outside shooting, primary playmaker /ball handler ability). I also have not seen Holiday as a saavy floor general and decision maker in terms of closing games, but if the comparison is Bledsoe, then he's certainly not worse, probably better.

Defensively, both are solid, I think Holiday's size advantage will make him a bit better in the Bucks system.

I think the possible main difference will be that I can trust Holiday to maintain a similar shooting and scoring in the playoffs while still giving me the defense. Bledsoe has shown that he is unable to do that as his shooting tanks in the post-season, so that can become a big difference.

Overal it's not necessarily a drastic upgrade, but it could be in the playoffs where Bledsoe seems to falter, but it remains to be seen with opposition game planning, but adding Bogdanovic also gives some additional help that wasn't present with the previous groups starters.

I think 90% of people would rather have Holiday than Bledose. He's a better player overall.

Hill is really good too. So once you add him and Bledsoe's combined value I'm not sure how much of a difference it really is.

Even if you consider Holiday a big upgrade, that's not the source of the Buck's playoff struggles. Its still Giannis playing as a lesser version of himself.

Unless Giannis plays like an MVP caliber player in the playoffs they will not be serious contenders.

[Don Ford]

Great pickup for the Bucks. Adding Jrue and Bogdanovic definitely makes them the favorite in the east. Plus it should help convince Giannis that they're willing to do whatever it takes to keep him.

[Prokorov]

The all-defensive team is kind of a sham. i mean brook freaking lopez made it. alot of bucks made it cause statistically they had good D. Tons including durant have said this offseason Jrue is the best defender out there.

He is also better then Bledsoe offensively. George Hill has been on a pretty steep downward trajectory the last couple years. he is basically a spot up shooter at this point.

The problem with the deal for the bucks is its 2 pick swaps and 3 picks and Giannis will 100% leave them in free agency and those picks will be decent, maybe lotto, maybe top 6. But Jrue definitely makes them better.

Like my above post, a lot of similar weaknesses between Holiday and Bledsoe (efficiency, volume outside shooting, primary playmaker /ball handler ability). I also have not seen Holiday as a saavy floor general and decision maker in terms of closing games, but if the comparison is Bledsoe, then he's certainly not worse, probably better.

Defensively, both are solid, I think Holiday's size advantage will make him a bit better in the Bucks system.

I think the possible main difference will be that I can trust Holiday to maintain a similar shooting and scoring in the playoffs while still giving me the defense. Bledsoe has shown that he is unable to do that as his shooting tanks in the post-season, so that can become a big difference.

Overal it's not necessarily a drastic upgrade, but it could be in the playoffs where Bledsoe seems to falter, but it remains to be seen with opposition game planning, but adding Bogdanovic also gives some additional help that wasn't present with the previous groups starters.

I think 90% of people would rather have Holiday than Bledose. He's a better player overall.

Hill is really good too. So once you add him and Bledsoe's combined value I'm not sure how much of a difference it really is.

Even if you consider Holiday a big upgrade, that's not the source of the Buck's playoff struggles. Its still Giannis playing as a lesser version of himself.

Unless Giannis plays like an MVP caliber player in the playoffs they will not be serious contenders.

Part og Giannis struggles in the playoffs is teams daring someone else to create offense. jrue can for himself and others in a way bledsoe could not or at least not at all consistently. Bogdanvic is a huge upgrade to hill at this point in hills career. I love hill, butat this point he is a 15-20 mpg role playing spot up shooter.

[Merc_Porto]

Unprotected picks in 2025 and 2027...

Ouch

[EricAnderson]

The Nba is by far the hardest league to win a title because you need a generational player to even have a shot to win it all so I’m always for going all in and worrying about it later.

It might be 50 years till the Bucks get another generational talent and contend.

So I have no issues mortgaging there future with all those picks to go all in.

My problem with it is I wouldn’t go all in and use up the rest of my assets and flexibility for a decade on Jrue Holiday. I’d want someone better.

[theFireBlanket]

Fourty two & sixty this year on their way back to Milwaukee. Diamond in the rough bench players coming.