Hawks are 17-24. What's happening?

[Sothron]

Three wins in a row over quality competition. Still have not played one game all season with our top seven rotation players healthy. Unreal. Team is starting to climb out of the hole that covid, injuries and bad team defense caused.

Four wins in a row over quality competition. Completely stifled the Hornets in their building tonight. Best defensive effort of the season by the Hawks. I just hope Hunter is ok. He got taken down like Caruso by BOTH Oubre and Bridges dirty fouling him while he was in in the air. Oubre was ejected but Hunter was taken back to the locker room a little later.

[HMFFL]

Three wins in a row over quality competition. Still have not played one game all season with our top seven rotation players healthy. Unreal. Team is starting to climb out of the hole that covid, injuries and bad team defense caused.

Four wins in a row over quality competition. Completely stifled the Hornets in their building tonight. Best defensive effort of the season by the Hawks. I just hope Hunter is ok. He got taken down like Caruso by BOTH Oubre and Bridges dirty fouling him while he was in in the air. Oubre was ejected but Hunter was taken back to the locker room a little later.

Big win for the underdog Hawks today

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[dockingsched]

Haven’t a lot of teams been without at least one top 7 rotation player each game? Seems like that’s not noteworthy.

[Sothron]

Haven’t a lot of teams been without at least one top 7 rotation player each game? Seems like that’s not noteworthy.

Atlanta is the only team in the NBA that hasn't had a single game played by its top 7 rotation players. We have had the LAST TWO GAMES ALL SEASON played by our three best defensive players on the court healthy. Let me repeat that: 46 games played and only TWO GAMES with their best three defensive players playing in the same game. Unreal. Injuries and covid completely derailed the first half of the season.

Hawks have won 4 straight and just put on a defensive classic against the second leading scoring team in the NBA on the road in a win. It is night and day difference seeing what a healthy Hunter, Capela and OO can do together on the court. And in tonight's win? Hunter gets hurt by a dirty flagrant two in MID AIR just like Caruso's injury. The only difference is Hunter pulled his arm back under him right before he landed. Hopefully he is going to be ok.

[dockingsched]

Haven’t a lot of teams been without at least one top 7 rotation player each game? Seems like that’s not noteworthy.

Atlanta is the only team in the NBA that hasn't had a single game played by its top 7 rotation players. We have had the LAST TWO GAMES ALL SEASON played by our three best defensive players on the court healthy. Let me repeat that: 46 games played and only TWO GAMES with their best three defensive players playing in the same game. Unreal. Injuries and covid completely derailed the first half of the season.

Hawks have won 4 straight and just put on a defensive classic against the second leading scoring team in the NBA on the road in a win. It is night and day difference seeing what a healthy Hunter, Capela and OO can do together on the court. And in tonight's win? Hunter gets hurt by a dirty flagrant two in MID AIR just like Caruso's injury. The only difference is Hunter pulled his arm back under him right before he landed. Hopefully he is going to be ok.

Kawhi out all year, 6th man Kendrick Nunn all year, Jamal Murray our all year, pretty sure Nets haven’t had Too 7 with Irving and Harris never playing together, that’s not even thinking about many more that might make it. Seems like such a random and inaccurate claim.

[Sothron]

Haven’t a lot of teams been without at least one top 7 rotation player each game? Seems like that’s not noteworthy.

Atlanta is the only team in the NBA that hasn't had a single game played by its top 7 rotation players. We have had the LAST TWO GAMES ALL SEASON played by our three best defensive players on the court healthy. Let me repeat that: 46 games played and only TWO GAMES with their best three defensive players playing in the same game. Unreal. Injuries and covid completely derailed the first half of the season.

Hawks have won 4 straight and just put on a defensive classic against the second leading scoring team in the NBA on the road in a win. It is night and day difference seeing what a healthy Hunter, Capela and OO can do together on the court. And in tonight's win? Hunter gets hurt by a dirty flagrant two in MID AIR just like Caruso's injury. The only difference is Hunter pulled his arm back under him right before he landed. Hopefully he is going to be ok.

Kawhi out all year, 6th man Kendrick Nunn all year, Jamal Murray our all year, pretty sure Nets haven’t had Too 7 with Irving and Harris never playing together, that’s not even thinking about many more that might make it. Seems like such a random and inaccurate claim.

Kawhi is one guy, Murray is one guy, they also are missing MPJ. You can go look it up if you want. Atlanta hasn't had ONE GAME all season with their top 7 rotation players healthy. We still haven't. Love how you ignore the facts just to take baseless shots. You really think the injuries and covid had no issues with why the Hawks had a bad first half of the season?

[SpreeS]

Atlanta is the only team in the NBA that hasn't had a single game played by its top 7 rotation players. We have had the LAST TWO GAMES ALL SEASON played by our three best defensive players on the court healthy. Let me repeat that: 46 games played and only TWO GAMES with their best three defensive players playing in the same game. Unreal. Injuries and covid completely derailed the first half of the season.

Hawks have won 4 straight and just put on a defensive classic against the second leading scoring team in the NBA on the road in a win. It is night and day difference seeing what a healthy Hunter, Capela and OO can do together on the court. And in tonight's win? Hunter gets hurt by a dirty flagrant two in MID AIR just like Caruso's injury. The only difference is Hunter pulled his arm back under him right before he landed. Hopefully he is going to be ok.

Kawhi out all year, 6th man Kendrick Nunn all year, Jamal Murray our all year, pretty sure Nets haven’t had Too 7 with Irving and Harris never playing together, that’s not even thinking about many more that might make it. Seems like such a random and inaccurate claim.

Kawhi is one guy, Murray is one guy, they also are missing MPJ. You can go look it up if you want. Atlanta hasn't had ONE GAME all season with their top 7 rotation players healthy. We still haven't. Love how you ignore the facts just to take baseless shots. You really think the injuries and covid had no issues with why the Hawks had a bad first half of the season?

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[Golden Knight]

Kawhi has missed the entire season
Paul George - missed 22 games so far
Morris - missed 22 games
Batum - missed 20 games
Ibaka - missed 19 games
Boston Jr - missed 17
Winslow - missed 15
Hartenstein - missed 14
Coffey - missed 13
Kennard - missed 10

Young (4), Collins (5) and Capela (8) have missed a combined 17 games.

[Sothron]

Kawhi has missed the entire season
Paul George - missed 22 games so far
Morris - missed 22 games
Batum - missed 20 games
Ibaka - missed 19 games
Boston Jr - missed 17
Winslow - missed 15
Hartenstein - missed 14
Coffey - missed 13
Kennard - missed 10

Young (4), Collins (5) and Capela (8) have missed a combined 17 games.

And that means what exactly? I said the Hawks haven't had one game with their top 7 rotation players healthy. That's a fact. You could even go to 8 players if you included Cam Reddish whose now an ex-Hawk. Team is now 21-25 because the team is creeping back to healthy. Hopefully. Bogi is still out with no idea when he's coming back and Hunter status is undetermined since they had to take him back to the locker room after that disgusting flagrant 2 he took in mid air against the Hornets last night.

[raleigh]

This thread seems like the kind that you revisit at season's end not after each game. Gonna be a lot of ups/downs for every team the rest of the way.

[ty 4191]

I think a significant part of what's been happening is the strength of schedule thus far (8th in opponent winning percentage overall, 4th in the Eastern Conference). The rest of the way, the Hawks are 25th in strength of schedule (12th in the Eastern Conference.)

http://powerrankingsguru.com/nba/strength-of-schedule.php

FiveThirtyEight projects them at 43-39 for this season. Makes sense.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nba-predictions/

[Sothron]

I think a significant part of what's been happening is the strength of schedule thus far (8th in opponent winning percentage overall, 4th in the Eastern Conference). The rest of the way, the Hawks are 25th in strength of schedule (12th in the Eastern Conference.)

http://powerrankingsguru.com/nba/strength-of-schedule.php

FiveThirtyEight projects them at 43-39 for this season. Makes sense.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nba-predictions/

it is almost like earlier in this thread when Hawks fans like myself pointed out the insane SOS the Hawks had to start the season (almost all on the road I might add) plus their tons of injuries and covid that is why the team was losing. Now that the team is starting to get healthy again and isn't on the road all the time...they are winning games.

It is almost like the people who watch the team had a damn good idea of what they were talking about and the random "Trae suxxor!" realgmer was as brain dead as normal.

[Ballerhogger]

im not sure what the changed but its working. We play them in couple days should be better game..

[kg01]

im not sure what the changed but its working. We play them in couple days should be better game..

Just blame it all on Cam. Give the Knicks fans a lil heartburn.

They're getting the right guys healthy, roles are more defined.

[chrismikayla]

Hopefully they don’t agree to some stupid deal with Morey to get Ben Simmons. Apparently Morey wants Collins, multiple firsts, AND to take back Tobias Harris and his giant salary. Morey is certifiably insane.


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[kg01]

Hopefully they don’t agree to some stupid deal with Morey to get Ben Simmons. Apparently Morey wants Collins, multiple firsts, AND to take back Tobias Harris and his giant salary. Morey is certifiably insane.


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I imagine most GM's smell desperation when they see it.

[kg01]

This thread seems like the kind that you revisit at season's end not after each game. Gonna be a lot of ups/downs for every team the rest of the way.

If you do that, you're not realgm'ng right. Gotta check back in after every game. Every half if it suits your narrative.

[Ell Curry]

Hopefully they don’t agree to some stupid deal with Morey to get Ben Simmons. Apparently Morey wants Collins, multiple firsts, AND to take back Tobias Harris and his giant salary. Morey is certifiably insane.


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He's only insane if/once he turns down a very good deal, which I don't remember seeing reported.

Do we have a list? I saw this one:

Detroit - Jerami Grant, Saddiq Bey, Kelly Olynyk, and a first-round pick. Depending on protection that's a meh to me, but if unprotected and the next 2 years I'd do it. Cade, Simmons and a top 4 rookie is probably still not making the playoffs next year.

Pels - Some firsts, some swaps?

[Sactowndog]

We're blaming the Hawks D entirely on Trae, but I think Bogdanovic also has a big share of responsibility. His D looks misleading because he does move fairly well and stays with his guy, and he has this massive wingspan, but he doesn't actually do much with it. Doesn't swipe, doesn't push, doesn't block the lane, he's pretty passive and soft and guys often go right through him. I think he gets targeted a lot when he's on the floor.

That's why I didn't lose any sleep when McNair didn't match his salary (do to Vlade overpaying Buddy).

No I understood it but it is also why McNair and Schlenk should have worked out a sign and trade. The Hawks now are hindered by the trade kicker in Bogi’s contract making him hard to trade.

I think he came in with his first offer expecting a McNair counter that never came. It screwed them both up.

[CP War Hawks]

Hawks are about to go on a strong run to finish off the 1st half. The center rotation is approaching full strength, which is the backbone of this defense. Hunter is providing good two way play, but they could use another perimeter defender or athletic guard.

OO impacts the center position better overall than Capela imo. Gallo, Bogi, and multiple expirings could be moved, not sure what they bring back.