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OFFICIAL RealGM Daryl Morey apology thread 

Post#401 » by kio80 » Fri May 13, 2022 2:50 am

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ropjhk wrote:
FOH

You can't build a winning team with a teammate who's so sensitive to criticism that it will break his back.

The mistake Philly made was holding out to trade Simmons for another diva. Morey had an opportunity to signal a culture change for the Sixers and instead opted to replace one diva with another. Maybe if Morey paid attention to character instead of just analytics he could actually begin to build a winning team.


I never said they shouldnt trade Simmons my point was Doc Rivers and Embiid tanked his value before he could even be traded. They already knew Simmons was a mental midget. But both Doc Rivers and Embiid needed a scapegoat to shield themselves. All three were trash.


It wasn't tanked so much that they couldn't have gotten better help for Embiid. Morey was just being an idiot for not seriously trying to trade Simmons.

NBA players and coaches have said worst things about teammates for decades. Nothing they said after last season was even that controversial. Simmons overreacted and Morey made the mistake of not recognizing earlier what a big crybaby Simmons was going to be. The biggest mistake Rivers and Embiid made in regards to Simmons was to not call him out earlier. If Simmons got called out for his play style earlier in the regular season maybe things turn out differently.

There are dozens of moments and events that made the Simmons saga as bad as it was for Philly. Embiid's and Rivers comments at the end of last season was just a trigger catalyst and IMO wasn't nearly the biggest mistake made.

Funny that people here still think that Simmons is a cry baby, he didn’t want to play for the damn team, simple as that, move the **** on! He didn’t even bad mouth anyone and had decided that he wants to leave, he doesn’t give a ****. Those kept calling him cry baby are the real cry babies.
Once again, He doesn’t want to play for the Philly losers, get over it!


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Post#402 » by baldur » Fri May 13, 2022 2:55 am

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I never said they shouldnt trade Simmons my point was Doc Rivers and Embiid tanked his value before he could even be traded. They already knew Simmons was a mental midget. But both Doc Rivers and Embiid needed a scapegoat to shield themselves. All three were trash.


It wasn't tanked so much that they couldn't have gotten better help for Embiid. Morey was just being an idiot for not seriously trying to trade Simmons.

NBA players and coaches have said worst things about teammates for decades. Nothing they said after last season was even that controversial. Simmons overreacted and Morey made the mistake of not recognizing earlier what a big crybaby Simmons was going to be. The biggest mistake Rivers and Embiid made in regards to Simmons was to not call him out earlier. If Simmons got called out for his play style earlier in the regular season maybe things turn out differently.

There are dozens of moments and events that made the Simmons saga as bad as it was for Philly. Embiid's and Rivers comments at the end of last season was just a trigger catalyst and IMO wasn't nearly the biggest mistake made.

Funny that people here still think that Simmons is a cry baby, he didn’t want to play for the damn team, simple as that, move the **** on! He didn’t even bad mouth anyone and had decided that he wants to leave, he doesn’t give a ****. Those kept calling him cry baby are the real cry babies.
Once again, He doesn’t want to play for the Philly losers, get over it!


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He doesn't wanna play for the nets either. Lmao.

He doesn't wanna play basketball beacuse of the fact that he is a crybaby.
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Post#403 » by ropjhk » Fri May 13, 2022 2:56 am

kio80 wrote:
ropjhk wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:
I never said they shouldnt trade Simmons my point was Doc Rivers and Embiid tanked his value before he could even be traded. They already knew Simmons was a mental midget. But both Doc Rivers and Embiid needed a scapegoat to shield themselves. All three were trash.


It wasn't tanked so much that they couldn't have gotten better help for Embiid. Morey was just being an idiot for not seriously trying to trade Simmons.

NBA players and coaches have said worst things about teammates for decades. Nothing they said after last season was even that controversial. Simmons overreacted and Morey made the mistake of not recognizing earlier what a big crybaby Simmons was going to be. The biggest mistake Rivers and Embiid made in regards to Simmons was to not call him out earlier. If Simmons got called out for his play style earlier in the regular season maybe things turn out differently.

There are dozens of moments and events that made the Simmons saga as bad as it was for Philly. Embiid's and Rivers comments at the end of last season was just a trigger catalyst and IMO wasn't nearly the biggest mistake made.

Funny that people here still thinks that Simmons is a cry baby, he didn’t want to play for the damn team, simple as that, move the **** on! He didn’t even bad mouth anyone and had decided that he wants to leave, he doesn’t give a ****. Those kept calling him cry baby are the real cry babies.
Once again, He doesn’t want to play for the Philly losers, get over it!


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Says the guy who's crying about people calling Simmons a crybaby.

I don't care that he didn't want to play for Philly. I don't cheer for them. He's not the first player to want out of a team, but he is the first to take his protest to such an absurd level. I find him to be an affront to competitive basketball.
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Post#404 » by DonaldSanders » Fri May 13, 2022 2:58 am

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I'm sorry you thought that Harden was still elite.

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Maybe just maybe if Doc Rivers and Embiid didn't scapegoat their own guy (all three were trash in the playoffs) he wouldn't have forced his way out deflating his value to almost nothing. Great job Rivers and Embiid. :roll:


Embiid and Doc deserves each other, scapegoating their inability on Simmons passing a ball, FFS. Excuses after excuses. karma is real.



Agreed. My respect for Embiid went up a bit because he played with 2 injuries, but he has always shrunk during crunch time, though not as bad as James Harden does.

I remember watching the playoffs last year when they got eliminated and was shocked how badly they both threw Ben Simmons under the bus. If you want to move on from a guy, WTF is this value tanking ****? Because the dude isn't going to want to play for you after you threw him under the bus.
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Post#407 » by Caped Crusader » Fri May 13, 2022 3:25 am

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Post#408 » by michaelm » Fri May 13, 2022 3:30 am

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kio80 wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:
Maybe just maybe if Doc Rivers and Embiid didn't scapegoat their own guy (all three were trash in the playoffs) he wouldn't have forced his way out deflating his value to almost nothing. Great job Rivers and Embiid. :roll:


Embiid and Doc deserves each other, scapegoating their inability on Simmons passing a ball, FFS. Excuses after excuses. karma is real.



Agreed. My respect for Embiid went up a bit because he played with 2 injuries, but he has always shrunk during crunch time, though not as bad as James Harden does.

I remember watching the playoffs last year when they got eliminated and was shocked how badly they both threw Ben Simmons under the bus. If you want to move on from a guy, WTF is this value tanking ****? Because the dude isn't going to want to play for you after you threw him under the bus.

Simmons has to play again for the Nets, and play well, to change the narrative; it is hard to dismiss just now that he intends to take whatever money he already has or can get, which is a lot particularly by Australian standards, and run. I am not sure where he would live though, he wouldn’t exactly be popular in Australia either. The back injury didn’t come totally out of the blue however, he had a problem while at the Sixers prior to last season.

It would certainly appear Doc and Embiid can fail without help from Simmons though, and they were also involved in losing last season along with Simmons. It is obvious now, and was to more than a few Sixers fans back then, that they should have kept Butler when they had him and traded Simmons, rather than waiting to trade him for a post prime Harden. I don’t understand the strategy with Simmons after they lost last year either, other than Morey being of the belief that acquiring Harden would solve all ills. Giving him some tough love years ago particularly regarding his refusal to accede to professional shooting coaching would likely have been a good idea, but wasn’t likely to achieve anything other than tanking his value as you say after Morey had already decided to trade him and he had already decided to leave.
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Post#409 » by kio80 » Fri May 13, 2022 3:38 am

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kio80 wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:
Maybe just maybe if Doc Rivers and Embiid didn't scapegoat their own guy (all three were trash in the playoffs) he wouldn't have forced his way out deflating his value to almost nothing. Great job Rivers and Embiid. :roll:


Embiid and Doc deserves each other, scapegoating their inability on Simmons passing a ball, FFS. Excuses after excuses. karma is real.



Agreed. My respect for Embiid went up a bit because he played with 2 injuries, but he has always shrunk during crunch time, though not as bad as James Harden does.

I remember watching the playoffs last year when they got eliminated and was shocked how badly they both threw Ben Simmons under the bus. If you want to move on from a guy, WTF is this value tanking ****? Because the dude isn't going to want to play for you after you threw him under the bus.


Cause those 2 cares about their own personal interest and value more than the well being of the team.
You can tell those 2 are selfish and self centered AF whenever they open their mouth.


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Post#410 » by kio80 » Fri May 13, 2022 3:44 am

michaelm wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:
kio80 wrote:
Embiid and Doc deserves each other, scapegoating their inability on Simmons passing a ball, FFS. Excuses after excuses. karma is real.



Agreed. My respect for Embiid went up a bit because he played with 2 injuries, but he has always shrunk during crunch time, though not as bad as James Harden does.

I remember watching the playoffs last year when they got eliminated and was shocked how badly they both threw Ben Simmons under the bus. If you want to move on from a guy, WTF is this value tanking ****? Because the dude isn't going to want to play for you after you threw him under the bus.

Simmons has to play again for the Nets, and play well, to change the narrative; it is hard to dismiss just now that he intends to take whatever money he already has or can get, which is a lot particularly by Australian standards, and run. I am not sure where he would live though, he wouldn’t exactly be popular in Australia either. The back injury didn’t come totally out of the blue however, he had a problem while at the Sixers prior to last season.

It would certainly appear Doc and Embiid can fail without help from Simmons though, and they were also involved in losing last season along with Simmons. It is obvious now, and was to more than a few Sixers fans back then, that they should have kept Butler when they had him and traded Simmons, rather than waiting to trade him for a post prime Harden. I don’t understand the strategy with Simmons after they lost last year either, other than Morey being of the belief that acquiring Harden would solve all ills. Giving him some tough love years ago particularly regarding his refusal to accede to professional shooting coaching would likely have been a good idea, but wasn’t likely to achieve anything other than tanking his value as you say after Morey had already decided to trade him and he had already decided to leave.


Morey also helped sabotage the relationship with Simmons.
He made comments about how he clearly favored Embiid over Simmons (Not that he’s wrong in hindsight, but it was before the MVP breakout year that Embiid had in 2021, right after the swept by Celtics in round 1 of the bubble, and that didn’t sit well with Simmons), and tried shopping Simmons non stop before his ass got hot on his new seat. Morey made it clear that Simmons was extremely dispensable right from the get go, I don’t think any, I mean ANY all star tier players in the league would appreciate that treatment.
And then getting thrown under the bus by the idiot duo, and people are wondering why he doesn’t want to play for Philly….


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Post#411 » by monopoman » Fri May 13, 2022 3:46 am

Daryl Morey only knows one form of GMing chase biggest name players at all times no matter fit or anything else. So far it hasn't worked that well for him in general.
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Post#412 » by Case2012 » Fri May 13, 2022 3:57 am

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Post#413 » by Archerbro » Fri May 13, 2022 4:26 am

monopoman wrote:Daryl Morey only knows one form of GMing chase biggest name players at all times no matter fit or anything else. So far it hasn't worked that well for him in general.


the guy is a good gm, i do not doubt that. but his biggest cons are exactly what you speak.

He had a contender with dwight and Harden, and was adamant on finding a third star. At the time, that was enough to compete/contend.

The only time i felt he even put adequate pieces was the Cp3 Harden team IMO
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Post#414 » by michaelm » Fri May 13, 2022 5:12 am

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monopoman wrote:Daryl Morey only knows one form of GMing chase biggest name players at all times no matter fit or anything else. So far it hasn't worked that well for him in general.


the guy is a good gm, i do not doubt that. but his biggest cons are exactly what you speak.

He had a contender with dwight and Harden, and was adamant on finding a third star. At the time, that was enough to compete/contend.

The only time i felt he even put adequate pieces was the Cp3 Harden team IMO

He didn’t bother to keep Capela as I recall.
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Post#415 » by Tacoma » Fri May 13, 2022 6:11 am

Woodsanity wrote:
ropjhk wrote:
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Maybe just maybe if Doc Rivers and Embiid didn't scapegoat their own guy (all three were trash in the playoffs) he wouldn't have forced his way out deflating his value to almost nothing. Great job Rivers and Embiid. :roll:


FOH

You can't build a winning team with a teammate who's so sensitive to criticism that it will break his back.

The mistake Philly made was holding out to trade Simmons for another diva. Morey had an opportunity to signal a culture change for the Sixers and instead opted to replace one diva with another. Maybe if Morey paid attention to character instead of just analytics he could actually begin to build a winning team.


I never said they shouldnt trade Simmons my point was Doc Rivers and Embiid tanked his value before he could even be traded. They already knew Simmons was a mental midget. But both Doc Rivers and Embiid needed a scapegoat to shield themselves. All three were trash.


If Doc tanked Simmons' value, then who hired Doc? Morey's hands is also dirty on the whole Simmons saga. He is the President of Basketball Operations and when Doc made those comments against Simmons, it was ultimately his responsibility as the President to make sure his 2 prized and ultra expensive assets didn't feud and gotten them both into a room together to diffuse the situation.

Communication was key but Morey did nothing and, instead, let the feud simmer until Simmons demanded a trade. Conflict resolution and asset management is a job requirement of all Executives and Morey failed. The buck stopped with him.
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Post#416 » by Jables » Fri May 13, 2022 7:06 am

At first I didn't put much stock into the reports that Embiid wanted Brown gone because he was a "Simmons guy", regardless of the truth or who was right or wrong it's obvious Morey only fed into the thing and I put him at fault more than the players. He acted like best buds and played tennis with Embiid to form a Harden like relationship, fired Brown, ignored Lue (supposedly a Simmons pick), the fan favourite and the media pick to instead go for Rivers because that's what Embiid wanted, and traded the world for Harden because he's a Morey favourite.

I'm not defending Simmons choice to refuse to play for the Sixers to force a trade, and I put zero blame on Embiid **** if he got his way to keep Butler the team would also be in a better spot, I'm pointing out an increasingly obvious trend of Morey buddying up with one player on his team and acceding to all their wishes, just like Harden with the Rockets and the revolving door of stars Harden played with.

For a supposed genius they are in a far worse position than when Morey got there.

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