Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS

Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285

User avatar
azcatz11
RealGM
Posts: 31,384
And1: 35,063
Joined: Apr 13, 2017
Location: Phoenix
     

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#401 » by azcatz11 » Tue Apr 5, 2022 3:54 am

Castle Black wrote:People will talk about what a great game that was, but honestly that was some of the worst basketball I’ve seen in a long time. It was only close because both teams were awful and stupid.

It really just goes to show you what a massive jump it is to the pros from college. Most college players cant even handle a basic pick-in-roll or bounce pass into the post. Woof. Both team’s Guards were turnover machines. Neither plays any defense off the dribble. Just yikes.


Seriously that game was trash. I prefer college basketball to the pro's because every basketball means something but that was ugly
Praying for Burrow
User avatar
CptCrunch
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,675
And1: 4,697
Joined: Jun 30, 2016
   

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#402 » by CptCrunch » Tue Apr 5, 2022 3:55 am

DavidSterned wrote:Love was brutal tonight.


He is brutal every night. Prior to this game, he was 36% for the year from 2. His 55% shooting night against Duke was the best game in his career. He hasn't shot above 50% 4 times in 40 games.
falcolombardi
General Manager
Posts: 9,587
And1: 7,184
Joined: Apr 13, 2021
       

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#403 » by falcolombardi » Tue Apr 5, 2022 3:55 am

Castle Black wrote:People will talk about what a great game that was, but honestly that was some of the worst basketball I’ve seen in a long time. It was only close because both teams were awful and stupid.

It really just goes to show you what a massive jump it is to the pros from college. Most college players cant even handle a basic pick-in-roll or bounce pass into the post. Woof. Both team’s Guards were turnover machines. Neither plays any defense off the dribble. Just yikes.


you have to turn off your professional level expectatives

remember most of these kids are not gonna be profesional, let alone nba players

the average G-league guys that make 10 day contracts are a couple levels above the average ncaa final four player and those guys are seen as scrubs at nba level
User avatar
Reeko
Forum Mod - Raptors
Forum Mod - Raptors
Posts: 26,253
And1: 38,449
Joined: Jan 04, 2015
Location: East side, in a deluxe apartment in the sky.
   

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#404 » by Reeko » Tue Apr 5, 2022 3:56 am

Michael Jackson wrote:
Reeko wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:

He might get a good shot at summer league or training camp to attempt it,but I don’t see it.

Yeah, I think he's likely a G Leaguer or Europe bound.



McCormack likely has a better shot, because of his real NBA size, but even him it will be hard to make it as rotational player.

I agree, McCormack needs to add a jump shot if he wants to make it in the league.
Clay Davis wrote:COMPOSED ONLY OF THE COOLEST WOMEN AND THE HOTTEST GUYS, THE TORONTO RAPTORS REALGM BOARD HAS LONG BEEN KNOWN FOR ITS HIGH-QUALITY DISCUSSION, PASSIONATE LOYALTY, TEMPERATE CELEBRATIONS OF VICTORY, AND GRACE IN DEFEAT.
User avatar
CptCrunch
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,675
And1: 4,697
Joined: Jun 30, 2016
   

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#405 » by CptCrunch » Tue Apr 5, 2022 3:57 am

Castle Black wrote:People will talk about what a great game that was, but honestly that was some of the worst basketball I’ve seen in a long time. It was only close because both teams were awful and stupid.

It really just goes to show you what a massive jump it is to the pros from college. Most college players cant even handle a basic pick-in-roll or bounce pass into the post. Woof. Both team’s Guards were turnover machines. Neither plays any defense off the dribble. Just yikes.


College basketball is such a bad product for real. Usually a team of upperclassmen with no NBA prospects wins the tourney. Then let's not forget the talent disparity across teams and the fraudulent one and done era where pretend academics is basically a joke that has taken a backseat to NCAA ba$ketball.
User avatar
Michael Jackson
Forum Mod - Bulls
Forum Mod - Bulls
Posts: 29,756
And1: 11,797
Joined: Jun 15, 2001

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#406 » by Michael Jackson » Tue Apr 5, 2022 4:00 am

Reeko wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:
Reeko wrote:Yeah, I think he's likely a G Leaguer or Europe bound.



McCormack likely has a better shot, because of his real NBA size, but even him it will be hard to make it as rotational player.

I agree, McCormack needs to add a jump shot if he wants to make it in the league.



Which he might. He surely has a big boy NBA body and teams will give him a chance if he wants to improve.
Sprewell4Three
General Manager
Posts: 9,326
And1: 4,772
Joined: Apr 08, 2011

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#407 » by Sprewell4Three » Tue Apr 5, 2022 4:00 am

Castle Black wrote:
GeorgeSears wrote:Caleb Love, who was the hero against Duke, went 1-7 from 3. It always comes down to 3s.


He was 5/24 from the field! And that doesn’t include all his costly turnovers. He was absolutely horrendous. Dude single-handed lost Carolina the game lol.

I wouldn’t even touch him in the 2nd Round of the draft.


There will be a team that will. I think with some coaching and some training he can improve in the nba. He was able to get into the paint just wasn’t able to finish.
falcolombardi
General Manager
Posts: 9,587
And1: 7,184
Joined: Apr 13, 2021
       

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#408 » by falcolombardi » Tue Apr 5, 2022 4:00 am

i dont watch much ncaa but i enjoyed this maybe because the novelty of it

one thingh i wonder about is what would have happened if lebron had to play ncaa if the draft rules were changed earlier

2004 lebron at this level would have been crazy to watch, 18 years old luka would have been crazy too if for some reason he left europe to play in college
CIN-C-STAR
General Manager
Posts: 8,432
And1: 18,301
Joined: Dec 17, 2017

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#409 » by CIN-C-STAR » Tue Apr 5, 2022 4:01 am

Michael Jackson wrote:
Reeko wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:

He might get a good shot at summer league or training camp to attempt it,but I don’t see it.

Yeah, I think he's likely a G Leaguer or Europe bound.



McCormack likely has a better shot, because of his real NBA size, but even him it will be hard to make it as rotational player.


Both are listed as 6' 10"
I thought Bacot played bigger than McCormack tbh, on offense and defense.
Neither is quite big enough to play starter minutes at center at the NBA level though, and neither is skilled enough to be a power forward. Backup center at best would be my guess.
"I'd rather have Kevin Love spacing out to the three point line than anything (Karl) Malone brings"
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Sprewell4Three
General Manager
Posts: 9,326
And1: 4,772
Joined: Apr 08, 2011

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#410 » by Sprewell4Three » Tue Apr 5, 2022 4:04 am

Of course the skill level is not going to be as good as the NBA. Cmon. The NBA still has its flaws with the foul fest and barely any defense being played. One thing I liked about this game was that the refs were letting the kids play and not calling too many ticky tack fouls.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sprewell4Three
General Manager
Posts: 9,326
And1: 4,772
Joined: Apr 08, 2011

Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#411 » by Sprewell4Three » Tue Apr 5, 2022 4:05 am

Bacot is a big body that can rebound and score a little bit. I think he has a place in the NBA as a back up.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CIN-C-STAR
General Manager
Posts: 8,432
And1: 18,301
Joined: Dec 17, 2017

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#412 » by CIN-C-STAR » Tue Apr 5, 2022 4:08 am

CptCrunch wrote:
Castle Black wrote:People will talk about what a great game that was, but honestly that was some of the worst basketball I’ve seen in a long time. It was only close because both teams were awful and stupid.

It really just goes to show you what a massive jump it is to the pros from college. Most college players cant even handle a basic pick-in-roll or bounce pass into the post. Woof. Both team’s Guards were turnover machines. Neither plays any defense off the dribble. Just yikes.


College basketball is such a bad product for real. Usually a team of upperclassmen with no NBA prospects wins the tourney. Then let's not forget the talent disparity across teams and the fraudulent one and done era where pretend academics is basically a joke that has taken a backseat to NCAA ba$ketball.


So college basketball is a bad product because:
1) Players with more experience do better in the postseason (just like in the NBA)
2) There is talent disparity in a league with hundreds of teams. Presumably this is supposed to be contrasted with the NBA, where there isn't a massive talent disparity between, let's say, the Orlando Magic and the Milwaukee Bucks?
3) The basketball players don't have rigorous enough academic hurdles and that somehow makes the basketball worse :crazy:

I'm not going to argue it's a great product but none of this reasoning makes much sense to me tbh
"I'd rather have Kevin Love spacing out to the three point line than anything (Karl) Malone brings"
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Perseus1966
Veteran
Posts: 2,784
And1: 1,159
Joined: Nov 29, 2018
   

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#413 » by Perseus1966 » Tue Apr 5, 2022 5:09 am

Watched first half and said ok its done ,then ...
I want RoLo to be my son in law!
User avatar
WestGOAT
Veteran
Posts: 2,597
And1: 3,520
Joined: Dec 20, 2015

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#414 » by WestGOAT » Tue Apr 5, 2022 5:26 am

falcolombardi wrote:i dont watch much ncaa but i enjoyed this maybe because the novelty of it

one thingh i wonder about is what would have happened if lebron had to play ncaa if the draft rules were changed earlier

2004 lebron at this level would have been crazy to watch, 18 years old luka would have been crazy too if for some reason he left europe to play in college


I was also thinking how Luka would have fared in college. Would he have been more dominant than Kevin Durant who played for Texas?

That said for Luka's development it was definitely better to play against professionals than this level of talent. I don't think he would have as NBA ready playing against fellow kids :lol:
Image
spotted in Bologna
FreeThrowLine
Veteran
Posts: 2,584
And1: 4,276
Joined: Jun 12, 2020

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#415 » by FreeThrowLine » Tue Apr 5, 2022 6:01 am

The only guy I saw out there that looks like he could be an NBA player was that Agbagi kid, I think he has potential if he can be a little more aggressive
User avatar
PlatinumState
Veteran
Posts: 2,763
And1: 3,234
Joined: Jul 26, 2016
     

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#416 » by PlatinumState » Tue Apr 5, 2022 8:38 am

FreeThrowLine wrote:The only guy I saw out there that looks like he could be an NBA player was that Agbagi kid, I think he has potential if he can be a little more aggressive


Agbaji is the only one thats gonna get drafted in the first round (lottery)
leolozon
General Manager
Posts: 8,309
And1: 7,995
Joined: Nov 08, 2009

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#417 » by leolozon » Tue Apr 5, 2022 10:27 am

falcolombardi wrote:i dont watch much ncaa but i enjoyed this maybe because the novelty of it

one thingh i wonder about is what would have happened if lebron had to play ncaa if the draft rules were changed earlier

2004 lebron at this level would have been crazy to watch, 18 years old luka would have been crazy too if for some reason he left europe to play in college


Yeah, Doncic in this tournament instead of being in Europe would have been crazy. He would have done what he wanted to. I still can't believe the scouts couldn't see the enormous gap between Europe and the NCAA.
User avatar
SmoothLefty21
Starter
Posts: 2,177
And1: 2,414
Joined: Jun 15, 2011

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#418 » by SmoothLefty21 » Tue Apr 5, 2022 12:00 pm

Castle Black wrote:People will talk about what a great game that was, but honestly that was some of the worst basketball I’ve seen in a long time. It was only close because both teams were awful, sloppy, and stupid.


This has been college basketball for about a decade now. It's been a terrible product.
dribble1614
Pro Prospect
Posts: 849
And1: 769
Joined: Mar 09, 2020

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#419 » by dribble1614 » Tue Apr 5, 2022 12:42 pm

bill self is officially, if he wasn't already, a mount rushmore legend head coach. one of the top 5 college coaches of all-time.
Billy Goat
Analyst
Posts: 3,344
And1: 1,804
Joined: Mar 08, 2017
 

Re: Kansas vs North Carolina championship - Monday night 9:20pm ET, TBS 

Post#420 » by Billy Goat » Tue Apr 5, 2022 2:21 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:Bacot is a big body that can rebound and score a little bit. I think he has a place in the NBA as a back up.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Hell be a good NBA player on rebounding alone.

Return to The General Board