prophet_of_rage wrote:I'm not saying what if MJ played today. I'm saying the league today won't allow for a team to go 6-0 because max contracts exist. You won't have an underpaid MJ and Scottie. Just like Jordan's league won't allow for 11 rings because there were more teams and deeper talent.AlexanderRight wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:Are you pretending that the Bulls the following year didn't lose Horace Grant?
And if hypothetically MJ and Co could.have matched their performance in today's era there is no basis to discount what Russell could have done had he been transported holus bolus to the 80s. You simply cannot discount Russell and his titles.
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I'm not discrediting Russell's titles. I'm pointing out that Russell was the 3rd and 4th option on offense on his own team. That matters when you're talking best player in history. A quarter of his teammates made the HOF. That matters. His only competition was 7 other teams. That definitely matters if you're just counting rings. He was an average at best offensive player and arguably wasn't the best player of HIS OWN era. Your arguments against MJ is a hypothetical placing him OUTSIDE his era.
I don't have to go into make believe land and say "what if he played today?" to bring a fair argument against Russell. There's a valid case of him not being best player of his own decade. Your case against MJ is pure speculation and assumption. Do you see the difference?
And talking about 95 is dumb. The man played 16 games in two years. Nobody should kill him cause he lost in 6 games to a Finals team after sitting out damn near 2 years. Him sweeping Orlando the very next year more than made up for that.
For the 100th time. YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT. That is pure speculation and assumption. A GOAT argument cannot be based off hypothetical.
Duncan and Pop were a rebound away from going 6-0 in the new millennium and were a strong championship contender for the majority of Lebron's prime. You have no basis to claim a greater player and a greater coach in MJ and Phil would be stonewalled out of similar success.