Kings trade Fox to Spurs, get LaVine

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Bradley Beal and Devin Vassell?
Beal and Khris Middleton?
The intrigue is killing me…

[AFM]

Kyle Kuzma and Jordan Poole. The trash brothers.

[magee]

Spurs will trade Keldon Johnson and some HEB coupons. Amazing deal imo...

I'd take those HEB coupons if they can* be used for eggs.

[vincecarter4pres]

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Bradley Beal and Devin Vassell?
Beal and Khris Middleton?
The intrigue is killing me…

Are we gonna see some crazy like Trae Young and Cam Johnson?

[CIN-C-STAR]

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Bradley Beal and Devin Vassell?
Beal and Khris Middleton?
The intrigue is killing me…

Are we gonna see some crazy like Trae Young and Cam Johnson?

Lavine and Jimmy B??
Idk man but it’s fascinating…

[Sactowndog]

So those two plus 4 picks for Fox with the plan to extend him past his current contract. He wants 5yrs/300M so 60M per year.Wemby's rookie extension will be over $60M per year. That's 2/3 of the projected cap on two players. Add the rookies they will draft and whoever they might reup that's an even worse team than they have now.

his max is 5/296 if he gets traded and only 4/219 if he signs next season as a FA, his supermax is 5/345. he didn't extend in the summer cuz he was betting on himself to get that All-NBA nod and that supermax, once that flamed out he wants out..

my point is, he wants 5/296 but if a deal doesn't get made and he'll end up leaving in FA, he'll only get 4/219. add that to a change of scenery, going to play in his home state with the the most exciting young player and a generational freak in Wemby, with all the media coverage etc - he'll take a little discount, he's not dumb. maybe it ends up being something like 5/270 which is 54m per, that's not a bad pay day and with the cap projected to go up, shouldn't eat that much of the their future cap in 2 or 3 years

he'll take 5/270 or 5/275 and call it a day imo

he's an all-star caliber guard, in his prime..obviously he expects to get paid and that's about his market value , a top 30 player is a max player basically

Yeah but if the Spurs **** around and cost him his extra money they could well piss him off and lose him to the Lakers.

[CIN-C-STAR]

his max is 5/296 if he gets traded and only 4/219 if he signs next season as a FA, his supermax is 5/345. he didn't extend in the summer cuz he was betting on himself to get that All-NBA nod and that supermax, once that flamed out he wants out..

my point is, he wants 5/296 but if a deal doesn't get made and he'll end up leaving in FA, he'll only get 4/219. add that to a change of scenery, going to play in his home state with the the most exciting young player and a generational freak in Wemby, with all the media coverage etc - he'll take a little discount, he's not dumb. maybe it ends up being something like 5/270 which is 54m per, that's not a bad pay day and with the cap projected to go up, shouldn't eat that much of the their future cap in 2 or 3 years

he'll take 5/270 or 5/275 and call it a day imo

he's an all-star caliber guard, in his prime..obviously he expects to get paid and that's about his market value , a top 30 player is a max player basically

Yeah but if the Spurs **** around and cost him his extra money they could well piss him off and lose him to the Lakers.

I mean, if he’s just using the Spurs to get his max money and doesn’t really care about being in San Antonio, I think most Spurs fans would be fine with it.
In fact I think most of would prefer he didn’t come to San Antonio if that’s the case.

[Pointgod]

Kyle Kuzma and Jordan Poole. The trash brothers.

Bro this is savage my God

[Pointgod]

6 teams involved now, next report will be 8 teams. It just keeps getting bigger! Will be interesting to see if it legitimately involved 6 teams because that's really rare

Could we have the first 30 team trade in NBA history?!!

[G R E Y]

his max is 5/296 if he gets traded and only 4/219 if he signs next season as a FA, his supermax is 5/345. he didn't extend in the summer cuz he was betting on himself to get that All-NBA nod and that supermax, once that flamed out he wants out..

my point is, he wants 5/296 but if a deal doesn't get made and he'll end up leaving in FA, he'll only get 4/219. add that to a change of scenery, going to play in his home state with the the most exciting young player and a generational freak in Wemby, with all the media coverage etc - he'll take a little discount, he's not dumb. maybe it ends up being something like 5/270 which is 54m per, that's not a bad pay day and with the cap projected to go up, shouldn't eat that much of the their future cap in 2 or 3 years

he'll take 5/270 or 5/275 and call it a day imo

he's an all-star caliber guard, in his prime..obviously he expects to get paid and that's about his market value , a top 30 player is a max player basically

Yeah but if the Spurs **** around and cost him his extra money they could well piss him off and lose him to the Lakers.

I mean, if he’s just using the Spurs to get his max money and doesn’t really care about being in San Antonio, I think most Spurs fans would be fine with it.
In fact I think most of would prefer he didn’t come to San Antonio if that’s the case.

I mean $70M is a LOT of money to ask a guy to leave in his prime. We're not the only ones who could afford it. He wants us. Feels like there's some middle ground that could be had. We've wanted him for a while it's been reported so mutual interest and its extension ramifications have surely been discussed and prepared for.

[JM00n69]

So those two plus 4 picks for Fox with the plan to extend him past his current contract. He wants 5yrs/300M so 60M per year.Wemby's rookie extension will be over $60M per year. That's 2/3 of the projected cap on two players. Add the rookies they will draft and whoever they might reup that's an even worse team than they have now.

his max is 5/296 if he gets traded and only 4/219 if he signs next season as a FA, his supermax is 5/345. he didn't extend in the summer cuz he was betting on himself to get that All-NBA nod and that supermax, once that flamed out he wants out..

my point is, he wants 5/296 but if a deal doesn't get made and he'll end up leaving in FA, he'll only get 4/219. add that to a change of scenery, going to play in his home state with the the most exciting young player and a generational freak in Wemby, with all the media coverage etc - he'll take a little discount, he's not dumb. maybe it ends up being something like 5/270 which is 54m per, that's not a bad pay day and with the cap projected to go up, shouldn't eat that much of the their future cap in 2 or 3 years

he'll take 5/270 or 5/275 and call it a day imo

he's an all-star caliber guard, in his prime..obviously he expects to get paid and that's about his market value , a top 30 player is a max player basically

Projected cap for 27/28 is 189M. Wemby and Fox would take up 130M with nobody else on the roster. Good luck

[SacTown Kings]

Bradley Beal and Devin Vassell?
Beal and Khris Middleton?
The intrigue is killing me…

Are we gonna see some crazy like Trae Young and Cam Johnson?

Lavine and Jimmy B??
Idk man but it’s fascinating…

I could see Lavine, not Butler. 2 players the Kings have shown a lot of past interest is Lavine and JCollins.

[DusterBuster]

Is it weird that if I'm the Spurs, I'm not sure pushing all chips in for Fox is the move? To steal an old Kevin Pritchard phrase... let the cake bake.

[The Master]

Is it weird that if I'm the Spurs, I'm not sure pushing all chips in for Fox is the move?

Nope, it's not.

- Fox doesn't align well timeline-wise with Wemby (6-7y of difference)
- he's not a playmaker nor strong 3pt shooter nor strong defender, so the fit may be questionable
- all-star level contract for Fox in 2nd apron league

But I'll wait for the ultimate package that Spurs will have to offer. If that's a promotion, go for it, if they pay a legit price for Fox - not really.

Let's say they trade Hawks '25, '27 picks, '31 Kings swap and fillers for Fox (and that would be quite a lot for a year and half of Fox contract). It basically means they traded Dejounte Murray for Fox and got Wemby in between, it's hard to imagine a better rebuilding.

In this scenario, they still would have Hawks '26 swap, Dallas/Minnesota '30 swap, Minnesota '31 pick - and all their picks (and 15/16 2nd rounders), plenty of assets to improve later.

So it's understandable why going for Fox already is so tempting. But again, let's wait for an ultimate price.

[G R E Y]

Well look who's on board.

Wemby knows what is at stake. I love him so damn much.

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Victor Wembanyama on the idea of ​​getting a major player at the deadline:

"Every team has made trades throughout their history and we know it will happen one day. I trust the front office."

PATFO and Wemby

Onwards we go...

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Popovitch and The Front Office, figured it out just before seeing it on reddit.

Never ask me to decode some tweet in a weird foreign language.

Part of me is hoping Masai doesn't poach Fox from your spurs, grey, and part of me wants him to do it...

[G R E Y]

Popovitch and The Front Office, figured it out just before seeing it on reddit.

Never ask me to decode some tweet in a weird foreign language.

Part of me is hoping Masai doesn't poach Fox from your spurs, grey, and part of me wants him to do it...

lol good luck

(And thanks, I've added the translation)

Seems like your FO is busy with other acquisition attempts and you have your PG of the future already. Plus both sides have to agree...

[Exp0sed]

Yeah but if the Spurs **** around and cost him his extra money they could well piss him off and lose him to the Lakers.

I mean, if he’s just using the Spurs to get his max money and doesn’t really care about being in San Antonio, I think most Spurs fans would be fine with it.
In fact I think most of would prefer he didn’t come to San Antonio if that’s the case.

I mean $70M is a LOT of money to ask a guy to leave in his prime. We're not the only ones who could afford it. He wants us. Feels like there's some middle ground that could be had. We've wanted him for a while it's been reported so mutual interest and its extension ramifications have surely been discussed and prepared for.

why 70M? i suggested he'd take something like 270 instead of 296, that's 25M over 5 years....

[Up-And-Coming]

IF it does happen I actually think the fit is good. I feel like those criticizing the fit envision Wemby as a paint dominant player but that's just not the case offensively. The vast majority of his shots are jump shots and almost half of his shots are specifically above the break 3's (44% of his shot attempts by shot chart). Only 36% of his attempts are in the paint and 64% are outside the paint and mostly jump shots. He's a perimeter oriented scorer who has the ability to get dunks in transition or off dribble hand-offs/put backs and the occasional one to two dribble finger roll.

A quick downhill player like De'Aaron Fox could in theory take advantage of the spacing and is a good enough playmaker and is just starting his prime. What player would you want to save all your chips for that can consistently put that downhill pressure on the rim? Shai is great at that but he's in a good situation right now. Anthony Edwards has a great first step but he seems like the kind of player that wants to be the alpha 1A option and isn't a great playmaker. Castle has promise but is still so young and highly inefficient. Trae isn't as good an overall player on both ends as Fox imo although he's a very creative playmaker and crafty enough to attack the paint (albeit not with the same downhill force).

The Spurs still aren't quite there yet as a play-in/playoff team but a move like this can help catapult Wemby to get a taste of the postseason and perhaps give some of these teams a run for their money. While it probably costs them at least a couple prospects + picks the Spurs should still have a handful of picks leftover.

[-Luke-]

6 teams involved now, next report will be 8 teams. It just keeps getting bigger! Will be interesting to see if it legitimately involved 6 teams because that's really rare

Could we have the first 30 team trade in NBA history?!!

With some team giving up some cash and receiving the same amount of cash from another team, just to get in.