Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 11, all quarter finals teams known, Italy shocks Europe, eliminates Serbia

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Who will win 2022 Eurobasket?

Serbia
62
21%
France
41
14%
Spain
10
3%
Lithuania
12
4%
Greece
53
18%
Slovenia
74
25%
Croatia
5
2%
Turkey
12
4%
Montenegro
1
0%
other
25
8%
 
Total votes: 295

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Post#421 » by lambchop » Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:47 pm

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lambchop wrote:Nor can you simply scream and shout at players and expect a positive reaction.

I am not sure shouting at players is an european coaching style these days, in any sport. As far as I have seen, it seems to me shouting is more of a slavic and american style. The best head-coaches in Europe, no matter which sport, seem to have good people skills and able to delegate tasks to specialist coaches in the team. Just look at the time-out situations in basketball, icehockey, football, rugby, volleyball -> it is the assistant coaches talking about the tactics, drawing up the plans, and usually the head-coach just overwatch the situation.


Which countries and leagues do you mean though? It's definitely not the case in the ACB. I honestly haven't seen an assistant coach take over a multiple timeouts in an ACB game.

This would be a typical Real Madrid timeout. Luka responds accordingly. Also note that in Europe a lot of coaches just do timeouts in the domestic language while the American players don't understand a word. Sometimes the assistant coaches will translate, but that's not always the case. Translation would actually be one of the special tasks delegated to them tbh.



But, yea, I do agree that the Slavic coaches take it to a whole notha level. I can remember when I playing in Germany for a Slavic coach and my man scored a couple of buckets on me. The coach took a timeout and told me that it would be better for me to get naked so that the scorer could penetrate me more smoothly since he was essentially already f****** me.
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Post#422 » by Pachinko_ » Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:31 am

lambchop wrote:The coach took a timeout and told me that it would be better for me to get naked so that the scorer could penetrate me more smoothly since he was essentially already f****** me.

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Post#423 » by CharityStripe34 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:34 am

My Spanish is good, that timeout clip was hilarious.

Couldn't even imagine an NBA coach getting to that point.
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Post#424 » by Swuul » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:52 am

lambchop wrote:
Which countries and leagues do you mean though? It's definitely not the case in the ACB. I honestly haven't seen an assistant coach take over a multiple timeouts in an ACB game.

I have watched quite a few of the various European national team matches this summer (World Cup qualifiers, practise matches), and in practically all of those (exception being the teams with slavic coaches) it has been been the offensive or defensive assistant coach going through the tactics during the timeouts. May be a confirmation bias thing, because that is what I have started to notice since Tokyo Olympics and then further strengthened in the Beijing Olympics.
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Post#425 » by LuDux1 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:36 am

Allegedly last season in Lithuanian League Zalgiris' head coach (Martin Schiller, NBA G League Coach of the Year (2020)) once took timeout and spent it listening to assistant coach (Tautvydas Sabonis). Then he took another time out and spent it talking to players
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Post#427 » by UcanUwill » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:36 am

Swuul wrote:
lambchop wrote:
Which countries and leagues do you mean though? It's definitely not the case in the ACB. I honestly haven't seen an assistant coach take over a multiple timeouts in an ACB game.

I have watched quite a few of the various European national team matches this summer (World Cup qualifiers, practise matches), and in practically all of those (exception being the teams with slavic coaches) it has been been the offensive or defensive assistant coach going through the tactics during the timeouts. May be a confirmation bias thing, because that is what I have started to notice since Tokyo Olympics and then further strengthened in the Beijing Olympics.


Watching Euro games, I've never seen such a thing really, HC is always gives the instructions from what I have seen.
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Post#428 » by remi_222 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:42 am

No one mentionned the most important factor between coaching in NBA and Europe :

In europe you can be relegated to the lower division if you **** up, no time for "rebuilding", some clubs are going to struggle for another 200 years coming to league 1 then 2, 1, 2 ... it's hard to have a plan bc a lot of money is coming depending on which level you play.
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Post#429 » by UcanUwill » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:37 pm

Bosnia and Herzegovina lost to Estonia. 2 great players, but team itself leaves a lot to be desired. I wonder how real is that warning that they might not even go to Eurobasket, and how much players think about it. Most of time it happens, it is usually just a plea and federations always find the money, but we will see, at least they are playing.
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Post#430 » by lambchop » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:16 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Bosnia and Herzegovina lost to Estonia. 2 great players, but team itself leaves a lot to be desired. I wonder how real is that warning that they might not even go to Eurobasket, and how much players think about it. Most of time it happens, it is usually just a plea and federations always find the money, but we will see, at least they are playing.


Tbh they could simply ask a major NBA player with a huge endorsement deal, like LBJ, if him and Nike can sponsor them. Their warmups would have lebrons face all over the back and a huge nike sign on the front. They'd all wear LBJ sneakers and this would be a done deal.

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Post#431 » by Ruma85 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:37 pm

lambchop wrote:
Swuul wrote:
lambchop wrote:Nor can you simply scream and shout at players and expect a positive reaction.

I am not sure shouting at players is an european coaching style these days, in any sport. As far as I have seen, it seems to me shouting is more of a slavic and american style. The best head-coaches in Europe, no matter which sport, seem to have good people skills and able to delegate tasks to specialist coaches in the team. Just look at the time-out situations in basketball, icehockey, football, rugby, volleyball -> it is the assistant coaches talking about the tactics, drawing up the plans, and usually the head-coach just overwatch the situation.


Which countries and leagues do you mean though? It's definitely not the case in the ACB. I honestly haven't seen an assistant coach take over a multiple timeouts in an ACB game.

This would be a typical Real Madrid timeout. Luka responds accordingly. Also note that in Europe a lot of coaches just do timeouts in the domestic language while the American players don't understand a word. Sometimes the assistant coaches will translate, but that's not always the case. Translation would actually be one of the special tasks delegated to them tbh.



But, yea, I do agree that the Slavic coaches take it to a whole notha level. I can remember when I playing in Germany for a Slavic coach and my man scored a couple of buckets on me. The coach took a timeout and told me that it would be better for me to get naked so that the scorer could penetrate me more smoothly since he was essentially already f****** me.


:lol: :lol: That’s certainly what a Slavic would’ve said I have no doubt, that’s the post of the year right there.
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Post#432 » by Maf » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:03 am

I am starting to be pretty optimistic about ours (Czech´s) chances. Quarter finals seems to be more than realistic and maaaybe we could fight for medal. Yesterday we crushed Croatia while resting Vít Krejčí from OKC and our starting center Balvín. This team has great chemistry, experienced players, I believe we will surprise a lot of people.
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Post#436 » by LuDux1 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:17 am

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Post#437 » by BadWolf » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:00 am

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Post#438 » by remi_222 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:34 am



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Post#439 » by Bologna Smasher » Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:34 pm

It's good to see Lithuania playing well. Was looking forward to seeing Sabonis and Valanciunas during the olympics, but they were pretty disappointing. Brazdeikis looks to be a good addition already.
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