Early Top 8 in the East projections.

Rasheeed!!! · Post #461 » by **Rasheeed!!!** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:10 am

Q C wrote:I don't get how people don't realize how overrated the Raptors are.

+1

I don't think they will be better than last season....certainly not top 3 record in the East.

LofJ · Post #462 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:13 am

I agree that the Raptors are getting a bit over hyped, but they play in the worst division in the NBA. They're pretty much guaranteed to win the Atlantic.

Troubadour · Post #463 » by **Troubadour** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:17 am

LofJ wrote:I agree that the Raptors are getting a bit over hyped, but they play in the worst division in the NBA. They're pretty much guaranteed to win the Atlantic.

What about what they did last year was a fluke? In terms of ORTG and DRTG, they were the best in the East.

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LofJ · Post #464 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:25 am

Troubadour wrote:
LofJ wrote:I agree that the Raptors are getting a bit over hyped, but they play in the worst division in the NBA. They're pretty much guaranteed to win the Atlantic.

What about what they did last year was a fluke? In terms of ORTG and DRTG, they were the best in the East.

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You're confusing me for the people that posted above me, I never said your season last year was a fluke. You guys have a good, young team. I just agreed with them that some people are getting ahead of themselves with how good you will be next year.

Chriscross · Post #465 » by **Chriscross** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:57 am

Troubadour wrote:
LofJ wrote:I agree that the Raptors are getting a bit over hyped, but they play in the worst division in the NBA. They're pretty much guaranteed to win the Atlantic.

What about what they did last year was a fluke? In terms of ORTG and DRTG, they were the best in the East.

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The one thing I will say is that we were extremely healthy last season

I think we will take a small step backwards but in the grand scheme of things, nothing to be worried about

Effercon · Post #466 » by **Effercon** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:44 am

1) Chicago
2) Cleveland
3) Charlotte
4) Indiana
5) Miami
6) Washington
7) Toronto
8) Orlando

basketballRob · Post #467 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:06 am

sca wrote:It's so hard to predict the EC teams right now, but if I had to put them in tiers, here's what I got:

1st tier: Pacers, Cavaliers, possibly Bulls
2nd tier: Raptors, Wizards, Heat, Hawks
3rd tier: Nets, Bobcats, Pistons, Knicks
4th tier: Celtics
5th tier: Magic, Bucks
6th tier: Sixers

lol, Love people aren't expecting anything out of the Magic!

TDotsfinest97 · Post #468 » by **TDotsfinest97** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:21 am

LofJ wrote:
Troubadour wrote:
LofJ wrote:I agree that the Raptors are getting a bit over hyped, but they play in the worst division in the NBA. They're pretty much guaranteed to win the Atlantic.

What about what they did last year was a fluke? In terms of ORTG and DRTG, they were the best in the East.

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You're confusing me for the people that posted above me, I never said your season last year was a fluke. You guys have a good, young team. I just agreed with them that some people are getting ahead of themselves with how good you will be next year.

The only thing most us Raptors fan will say is that we are a 4th seed team winning the Atlantic, I personally wouldn't be surprised if we get eliminated in the first round so I don't know where you get that overhyped stuff

RollingWave · Post #469 » by **RollingWave** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:33 am

I guess the team I really don't have a feeler for right now is probably the Pacers, since they were two totally different team at the start and end of last year.

But simply in terms of intuition I guess it would be.

1. Cavs
2. Bulls
3. Wizard
4. Raptors
5. Pacer
6. Hawks
7. Heat
8. Hornets / Nets

Something like that. I'm not sure how far the Heat would fall, but they are relying a lot on Wade and Birdman who were both rather old and creaky at this point. I'm going to guess that they are going to have some bad streaks when health and depth becomes a serious problem.

Something like that, but it's really hard to feel for a lot of these teams, the Nets probably move backwards but it's hard to see them really fall out of a division this weak, the Hornets are moving in the right direction but it's hard to see them beating any of the team above them, the Hawks should be better , the teams Pacers are so hard to figure out at this point so I'm just hedging on them a bit. the Heat is still very talented but they're relying so much on injury / age risk guys. etc.

So the conclusion is, I'm fairly sure, barring a Rose comeback of epic proportion, that the Cavs would win the East, Love trade or not, and one of these 9 teams won't make it due to some luck / injury issue, I suppose Boston / NY have a punchers chance at the 9th seed but I don't see enough there to expect it. Boston still can't shoot to save their life and NY would need time to adjust to new system not to mention Bargs is a automatic -5 win for any team he plays serious minutes on. Unless Amare eat some magic beans there seem to be very little chance .

mateo82 · Post #470 » by **mateo82** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:33 am

Every year the Bulls get overrated.

sca · Post #471 » by **sca** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:53 am

basketballRob wrote:
sca wrote:It's so hard to predict the EC teams right now, but if I had to put them in tiers, here's what I got:

1st tier: Pacers, Cavaliers, possibly Bulls
2nd tier: Raptors, Wizards, Heat, Hawks
3rd tier: Nets, Bobcats, Pistons, Knicks
4th tier: Celtics
5th tier: Magic, Bucks
6th tier: Sixers

lol, Love people aren't expecting anything out of the Magic!

Well, you won 27 games last year and traded away your best player, so...

Illmatic12 · Post #472 » by **Illmatic12** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:04 am

basketballRob wrote:
sca wrote:It's so hard to predict the EC teams right now, but if I had to put them in tiers, here's what I got:

1st tier: Pacers, Cavaliers, possibly Bulls
2nd tier: Raptors, Wizards, Heat, Hawks
3rd tier: Nets, Bobcats, Pistons, Knicks
4th tier: Celtics
5th tier: Magic, Bucks
6th tier: Sixers

lol, Love people aren't expecting anything out of the Magic!

Well excuse us for not expecting great things out of Jacque Vaughn and a team of 19 year olds..

jangles86 · Post #473 » by **jangles86** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:11 pm

1-Cavs 52-30
2- Wizards 50-32
3-Raptors 48-34
4-Pacers 48-34
5-Heat 45-37
6-Bulls 45-37
7-Bobcats 42-40
8-Pistons 41-41

Nets, Knicks, Hawks in that order

TheBabyMaker · Post #474 » by **TheBabyMaker** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:21 pm

basketballRob wrote:
sca wrote:It's so hard to predict the EC teams right now, but if I had to put them in tiers, here's what I got:

1st tier: Pacers, Cavaliers, possibly Bulls
2nd tier: Raptors, Wizards, Heat, Hawks
3rd tier: Nets, Bobcats, Pistons, Knicks
4th tier: Celtics
5th tier: Magic, Bucks
6th tier: Sixers

lol, Love people aren't expecting anything out of the Magic!

So what do you expect out of the Magic??? Just ask an honest question. They may be ready by 2020

ATLHawksfan21 · Post #475 » by **ATLHawksfan21** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:49 pm

People are sleeping way too hard on the Hawks.

Budenholzer is about to open a lot of eyes this season.

TheBabyMaker · Post #476 » by **TheBabyMaker** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:57 pm

ATLHawksfan21 wrote:People are sleeping way too hard on the Hawks.

Budenholzer is about to open a lot of eyes this season.

Ok what position does he play.??? That division is still the Heat to lose and the Wizards second.

Rockice_24 · Post #477 » by **Rockice_24** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:02 pm

LofJ wrote:I agree that the Raptors are getting a bit over hyped, but they play in the worst division in the NBA. They're pretty much guaranteed to win the Atlantic.

The Nets aren't going to go down without a fight. That division will probably come down to the end of the year similar to last season unless the Nets get thrashed by injuries which is possible.

shmoosicle · Post #478 » by **shmoosicle** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:02 pm

ATLHawksfan21 wrote:People are sleeping way too hard on the Hawks.

Budenholzer is about to open a lot of eyes this season.

I agree, and people are sleeping on the Hornets too.
In terms of wins:

1) Cleveland
2) Chicago
3) Charlotte
4) Atlanta
5) Raptors
6) Washington
7) Indiana
8) Brooklyn

TheBabyMaker · Post #479 » by **TheBabyMaker** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:05 pm

Rockice_24 wrote:
LofJ wrote:I agree that the Raptors are getting a bit over hyped, but they play in the worst division in the NBA. They're pretty much guaranteed to win the Atlantic.

The Nets aren't going to go down without a fight. That division will probably come down to the end of the year similar to last season unless the Nets get thrashed by injuries which is possible.

A fight LOL, maybe a little league fight, Toronto has that division locked up, the silly (NY) boroughs may fight for 8-10th seed.

NekiEcko · Post #480 » by **NekiEcko** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:10 pm

TheBabyMaker wrote:
ATLHawksfan21 wrote:People are sleeping way too hard on the Hawks.

Budenholzer is about to open a lot of eyes this season.

Ok what position does he play.??? That division is still the Heat to lose and the Wizards second.

He is a very good coach and I believe that Atlanta will contend in the Southeast besides with a heathly Horford/Milsap/Teague/Korver/Thabo, they are a very good squad. Dont overlook this team.