Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins

[NPZ]

Watch on YouTube

[DreamTeam09]

Yeah if Warriors just let KD go they would have Iggy (possibly Winslow), their 2024 1st and they wouldn't have been hard capped, which means they could have resigned guys last off-season, they could have used their MLE, they could have multiple vet mins right now.

Myers is surely picking Wiseman, not ideal but it's safe.

Iggy is a + asset?? They got winslow and a bunch of scrubs for iggy.

So what you're telling me is that you would rather winslow and 2024 unprotected 1st instead of Wiggins and a 2021 protected 1st??

Still not seeing all the hysteria here

yes, Iggy is a + asset...dude literally just netted Memphis Winslow...that's the definition of a plus asset. what are you talking about? say we never traded for DLo it could've been us that traded Iggy for Winslow, and i'd rather have Winslow at his contract over Wiggins at his contract...that right there is a win on its own

now include the fact that we also had to give Memphis an unprotected 2024 1st rounder just to GIVE them Iggy...u can be serious here.

So thats were the issue lies. Who cares about what winslow makes compared wiggy when GS will never have cap space as long as they have Curry Klay Draymond green. Wiggy isn't gonna stop the warriors from getting a player due to his contract in comparison to winslow contract, GS is over the cap regardless.

I'd rather have wiggy than winslow imho.

[Ayt]

Curious how nearly everyone who likes this trade is a Raptors fan.

[clyde21]

Iggy is a + asset?? They got winslow and a bunch of scrubs for iggy.

So what you're telling me is that you would rather winslow and 2024 unprotected 1st instead of Wiggins and a 2021 protected 1st??

Still not seeing all the hysteria here

yes, Iggy is a + asset...dude literally just netted Memphis Winslow...that's the definition of a plus asset. what are you talking about? say we never traded for DLo it could've been us that traded Iggy for Winslow, and i'd rather have Winslow at his contract over Wiggins at his contract...that right there is a win on its own

now include the fact that we also had to give Memphis an unprotected 2024 1st rounder just to GIVE them Iggy...u can be serious here.

So thats were the issue lies. Who cares about what winslow makes compared wiggy when GS will never have cap space as long as they have Curry Klay Draymond green. Wiggy isn't gonna stop the warriors from getting a player due to his contract in comparison to winslow contract, GS is over the cap regardless.

I'd rather have wiggy than winslow imho.

what do you mean who the hell cares how much they make? I care...the contract is a huge difference in terms of how potentially tradeable these guys are...Winslow at 13mil is infinitely more valuable asset than Wiggins at 28mil

and, to make matters worse, we had to give up a 2024 UNPROTECTED 1st rounder to do it...we couldn't even get an unprotected 21 from Minny in THIS deal.

[PD28]

Pretty sure it's Canadian basketball fans who hope Wiggins can turn his career around with a better franchise...I don't think it'll happen but time will tell.

Curious how nearly everyone who likes this trade is a Raptors fan.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using RealGM mobile app

[Duke4life831]

Iggy is a + asset?? They got winslow and a bunch of scrubs for iggy.

So what you're telling me is that you would rather winslow and 2024 unprotected 1st instead of Wiggins and a 2021 protected 1st??

Still not seeing all the hysteria here

yes, Iggy is a + asset...dude literally just netted Memphis Winslow...that's the definition of a plus asset. what are you talking about? say we never traded for DLo it could've been us that traded Iggy for Winslow, and i'd rather have Winslow at his contract over Wiggins at his contract...that right there is a win on its own

now include the fact that we also had to give Memphis an unprotected 2024 1st rounder just to GIVE them Iggy...u can be serious here.

So thats were the issue lies. Who cares about what winslow makes compared wiggy when GS will never have cap space as long as they have Curry Klay Draymond green. Wiggy isn't gonna stop the warriors from getting a player due to his contract in comparison to winslow contract, GS is over the cap regardless.

I'd rather have wiggy than winslow imho.

Winslow makes 13 mil a year and when healthy is a valuable player (far more impactful than Wiggins). 13 mill a year with a team option on the final year. Even if GS can't out right sign a free agent, Winslow's contract is far more valuable and easier to move.

[DreamTeam09]

yes, Iggy is a + asset...dude literally just netted Memphis Winslow...that's the definition of a plus asset. what are you talking about? say we never traded for DLo it could've been us that traded Iggy for Winslow, and i'd rather have Winslow at his contract over Wiggins at his contract...that right there is a win on its own

now include the fact that we also had to give Memphis an unprotected 2024 1st rounder just to GIVE them Iggy...u can be serious here.

So thats were the issue lies. Who cares about what winslow makes compared wiggy when GS will never have cap space as long as they have Curry Klay Draymond green. Wiggy isn't gonna stop the warriors from getting a player due to his contract in comparison to winslow contract, GS is over the cap regardless.

I'd rather have wiggy than winslow imho.

what do you mean who the hell cares how much they make? I care...the contract is a huge difference in terms of how potentially tradeable these guys are...Winslow at 13mil is infinitely more valuable asset than Wiggins at 28mil

and, to make matters worse, we had to give up a 2024 UNPROTECTED 1st rounder to do it...we couldn't even get an unprotected 21 from Minny in THIS deal.

And this is where i bow out, again you shouldn't care how much they make when GS will be over the cap regardless. If you care for trading purposes then, again, Winslow was traded for Iggy and Wiggy was traded for DLo, wiggy has more value it seems around the league. I'd rather have wiggy on my team then have winslow on my team, I'll be in the minority here.

[whatisacenter]

yes, Iggy is a + asset...dude literally just netted Memphis Winslow...that's the definition of a plus asset. what are you talking about? say we never traded for DLo it could've been us that traded Iggy for Winslow, and i'd rather have Winslow at his contract over Wiggins at his contract...that right there is a win on its own

now include the fact that we also had to give Memphis an unprotected 2024 1st rounder just to GIVE them Iggy...u can be serious here.

So thats were the issue lies. Who cares about what winslow makes compared wiggy when GS will never have cap space as long as they have Curry Klay Draymond green. Wiggy isn't gonna stop the warriors from getting a player due to his contract in comparison to winslow contract, GS is over the cap regardless.

I'd rather have wiggy than winslow imho.

what do you mean who the hell cares how much they make? I care...the contract is a huge difference in terms of how potentially tradeable these guys are...Winslow at 13mil is infinitely more valuable asset than Wiggins at 28mil

and, to make matters worse, we had to give up a 2024 UNPROTECTED 1st rounder to do it...we couldn't even get an unprotected 21 from Minny in THIS deal.

The Warriors got a top 3 protected pick in 2021 that will convert to an UNPROTECTED 2022 pick when the much anticipated double draft takes place.

[clyde21]

So thats were the issue lies. Who cares about what winslow makes compared wiggy when GS will never have cap space as long as they have Curry Klay Draymond green. Wiggy isn't gonna stop the warriors from getting a player due to his contract in comparison to winslow contract, GS is over the cap regardless.

I'd rather have wiggy than winslow imho.

what do you mean who the hell cares how much they make? I care...the contract is a huge difference in terms of how potentially tradeable these guys are...Winslow at 13mil is infinitely more valuable asset than Wiggins at 28mil

and, to make matters worse, we had to give up a 2024 UNPROTECTED 1st rounder to do it...we couldn't even get an unprotected 21 from Minny in THIS deal.

And this is where i bow out, again you shouldn't care how much they make when GS will be over the cap regardless. If you care for trading purposes then, again, Winslow was traded for Iggy and Wiggy was traded for DLo, wiggy has more value it seems around the league. I'd rather have wiggy on my team then have winslow on my team, I'll be in the minority here.

i don't care how much they make, I care that I would rather my team have a valuable asset on the roster instead of a negative asset on the roster.

[NPZ]

Curious how nearly everyone who likes this trade is a Raptors fan.

They're a positive people in general.

[zimpy27]

Warriors stay laughing. People are going to cry next year when they have curry Thompson wiggins green looney paschall + draft picks. Minnesota is still a lottery team they will still be in the lottery next year as well that pick will be juicy for the warriors

Legit made no sense for them to hold onto DLO especially if they could fill a position of need. Flipping a walking KD into a solid wing and draft compensation is a huge win

There's no guarantee that Wolves will be bad next year.

Starters: DLo, Culver, Layman, PF, Towns
Bench: PG, Beasley, Okogie, JJ, Juancho

They have about $22m in capspace in the offseason for a starting PF and not much competition (Millsap, Favors, Ibaka, Gallo)

Then for backup PG they have a $5m MLE, a top 10 draft pick 2020 and pick 15-18 2020 from nets.

[thinktank]

Correct.

We’re having a hard time tanking enough to get to the top 3 with absolute garbage.

There’s no way we can suck more next year.

Quote me.

That pick will convey in 21.

[SAKURABA216]

Warriors stay laughing. People are going to cry next year when they have curry Thompson wiggins green looney paschall + draft picks. Minnesota is still a lottery team they will still be in the lottery next year as well that pick will be juicy for the warriors

Legit made no sense for them to hold onto DLO especially if they could fill a position of need. Flipping a walking KD into a solid wing and draft compensation is a huge win

There's no guarantee that Wolves will be bad next year.

Starters: DLo, Culver, Layman, PF, Towns
Bench: PG, Beasley, Okogie, JJ, Juancho

They have about $22m in capspace in the offseason for a starting PF and not much competition (Millsap, Favors, Ibaka, Gallo)

Then for backup PG they have a $5m MLE, a top 10 draft pick 2020 and pick 15-18 2020 from nets.

True, but that team is going to get lit up defensively.

[msanchez2725]

I feel like the best asset in this trade is that Minny 1st, so Warriors with the victory IMO. I dont think Russell had as much value across the league as people think. Warriors I'm sure were praying on the Knicks being the Knicks and giving up a boatload for him.

[Soca]

Myers didn't do anything, it's been all West

tell me what good move has he made for the Warriors since West left? just one.

Iggy and a 2024 1st for Wiggy and a 2021 1st / How is that not extracting good value, I'm not madd at that. Why would anyone be, iggy is 35yrs old

okay that 2024 first is completely unprotected, and Iggy is still a + asset, Memphis just turned him into Winslow, so not only did he give Iggy away in a salary dumb to overpay DLo, he gave away that future first to do it

and Wiggins is a complete net negative player, Minny probably needed to include a 1st just to get out of his contract, let alone trade him and a 1st for DLo.

so no, this is not extracting good value AT ALL.

You're aware the alternative was losing Durant for nothing. I'd say a lottery pick from the Twolves in 2021 beats having nothing.

[gorz]

Devin Booker will be ont the wolves by next year.

[rtiff68]

As a Warriors fan, I am surprised to see so much negativity aimed at them for this move.

Had they not traded for DiLo, they would have lost Durant's cap-hold. The Warriors are WAY over the cap-- had Durant just walked, they would have simply lost the ability to take on roughly 30 million in contracts. Overpaying DiLo in a S&T preserved that cap-hold.

DiLo is not a bad player, but he is a not max player and he was never a good fit on the Warriors. The Warriors need to get younger, bigger, and more athletic without any cap space to chase FA's-- all they can do is acquire talent through trades and the draft.

So, what have they done this year thus far after this trade?

-Probably secured themselves a top 3ish pick in this draft and rested Curry, Klay, and Green.

-Probably secured themselves a top 10 pick next year or better the year after; unless, of course, you think building around a ball dominant, lowish-medium efficient volume scorer and a big who plays no defense is a recipe for anything better than .500ish in the WC the next 2 years.

-Traded said ball dominant combo-guard for a Rudy Gay clone who, while massively overpaid, plays a position they need depth and athleticism at. They're not hoping they can get Durant or Iguodala out of Wiggins with their culture, they're hoping they can get Harrison Barnes-- a goal that doesn't seem terribly unrealistic to me. He was a halfway decent fit on their roster few years, after all.

I think some people here overestimated DiLo's value, and are dramatically undervaluing that Minny FRP in '21 or '22.

Better hope Wiggins can improve defensively and shoot . Hope Wiggins looks good with klay and curry

I think we can hope for Barnes his first four years alongside Curry, Klay, and Dray or Rudy Gay on the Spurs. He’d still be absurdly overpaid, but he’d be a useful rotational role player, and the move will have also netted us a pick that could be top 5/10 next year or even better the year after.

It’s not like his salary really affects us. We’re WAY over the cap regardless— if ownership doesn’t blink at the tax (and they shouldn’t with that ATM called the “Chase Center” that they’ve built), then why should fans?

It would be different if his bloated salary was preventing us from signing other FAs...

[IceManBK1]

i wish t-wolves still had covington and taj gibson..dlo/okogie/covington/gibson/towns would have been a nice balanced team with spacing and PnR.

[ILOVEIT]

:evil: I think Wiggins can have a similar impact with the Warriors that Harrison Barnes did.

16 finals Barnes with way way worse defense sure.

Not really. How great is Barnes now that he's not on Warriors? How's his defense. His lateral movement was always slow.

Wiggins is a huge upgrade over HB (and I used to have a man crush on HB lol).

It's in fashion to knock Wiggins as some kind of flop. You can't call a guy that averages 22 a night on an otherwise crappy team a bust.

He's going to be great...and I think the Warriors are going to have a 65 win year next year.

[SF_Warriors]

I still can't believe that I will have to root for Andrew Wiggins...