2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 2)

[CptCrunch]

This dude is leading the league in contested shot right now. He is smashing the second place Gobert by 46 shots right now. The gap between him and Gobert is the gap between Gobert and 33rd on the list.

All-NBA defense second should already be a given. Good case for All-NBA first team. If this keeps up, with enough media narrative, he could be DPOY his rookie year.

Transcendental defensive player as a rookie.

edit: I have been made aware that there is no 3rd team.

[Dadouv47]

Mobley was by far the prospect I wanted OKC to pick and I'm pissed we couldn't

Cavs always lucky in the lottery but they can thank Houston for passing on him. Gonna be a very fun (and good) team to watch in the next years.

We haven't really been lucky in the lottery since the Bennett draft.

Didn’t you guys win the lottery literally the next year?

fair to get confused...cavs got so many first pick in the draft.

[Bruin]

This dude is leading the league in contested shot right now. All-NBA second/third team should already be a given. Good case for All-NBA first team. If this keeps up, with enough media narrative, he could be DPOY his rookie year.

Transcendental defensive player as a rookie.

You mean defensive team right? Cause he has no shot for an All NBA team right now

And there’s no defensive 3rd team

[CptCrunch]

This dude is leading the league in contested shot right now. All-NBA second/third team should already be a given. Good case for All-NBA first team. If this keeps up, with enough media narrative, he could be DPOY his rookie year.

Transcendental defensive player as a rookie.

You mean defensive team right? Cause he has no shot for an All NBA team right now

And there’s no defensive 3rd team

Yes, all defense second team easily. Very good case for first team. Could be the first ever rookie DPOY>

[Bruin]

This dude is leading the league in contested shot right now. All-NBA second/third team should already be a given. Good case for All-NBA first team. If this keeps up, with enough media narrative, he could be DPOY his rookie year.

Transcendental defensive player as a rookie.

You mean defensive team right? Cause he has no shot for an All NBA team right now

And there’s no defensive 3rd team

Yes, all defense second team easily. Very good case for first team. Could be the first ever rookie DPOY>

I could see him potentially making all defense team but I don’t think he’ll get it as a rookie. Gobert is essentially a lock for 1st team and there Bam too. Competition is tough

Highly doubt he wins DPOY as a rookie but he’s definitely gonna win it at some point in his career, probably sooner rather than later

[10giz]

Gotta see the reply of this NYK game looks like a marquee performance for Mobley.

Anywhere to watch game replays other than league pass?

[basketballRob]

Gotta see the reply of this NYK game looks like a marquee performance for Mobley.

Anywhere to watch game replays other than league pass?

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[MemphisX]

Quietly, Ziaire Williams is the 6th man for Memphis and hit 6 3s in his last two games. Plays good defense...most of the time. Looks way ahead of where I thought he would be at this point.

[LoveMyRaps]

Mobley is so nice.

[INKtastic]

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[yoyoboy]

Really loved that blow by drive and dunk Mobley had from the sideline.

[Jadoogar]

I wonder if Houston regrets taking Green over Mobley. One seems like a high volume scorer but doesn’t bring much else to the table (like a Jordan Clarkson or Bradley Beal type) and struggles defensively while the other seems like a generational type

I wouldn't write off Green so quickly but i agree. i had Mobley #1 mainly because of his versatility and ceiling. Even if Green reaches his peak, you'll end up with a Zach Lavine or Bradley Beal type, definitely a good player but not top 10.

If Mobley reaches his peak, you're looking at bubble Anthony Davis

[10giz]

Gotta see the reply of this NYK game looks like a marquee performance for Mobley.

Anywhere to watch game replays other than league pass?

Read on Twitter

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Very excited to watch this one.

[Peregrine01]

Rockets might be the most athletic team in the league.

[Chuck Everett]

I said in the draft forum that Mobley was who I would have picked number 1 from watching all those guys play, but the NBA has such a stylistic issue that sometimes you overthink the selections. Good for Cleveland though. This guy is the franchise. You build around him first, before you think about anyone else.

[DroseReturnChi]

mobley is a generational talent. i thought he was raw and could bust but hes a better prospect than AD.
i would gift him all nba 3rd, all star, dpoy, roy at this point.
these type of talents i dont need to watch more than 10 games whereas edwards/green are the ultimate boom bust type.

[yoyoboy]

Mobley: 14.9 ppg / 8.0 rpg / 2.5 apg / 1.7 topg / 1.0 spg / 1.3 bpg / 57.6% TS / 52/24/80 shooting / +0.8

Barnes: 16.6 ppg / 8.7 rpg / 2.4 apg / 2.1 topg / 1.1 spg / 0.7 bpg / 55.4% TS / 52/20/71 shooting / +0.8

Weirdly similar statlines.

[JonFromVA]

It's the same reason CLE isn't making Mobley take 20+ shots even though he could easily handle it.

He's doing so much in so many other areas while playing huge minutes as a 20 year old kid.

Young players can be broken mentally if mismanaged. There is no rush to get these guys to that level. You want to build their comfort, confidence and consistency slowly to make sure they're always inn high morale and always hungry for a little bit more.

lol, I read through the raptors game thread vs the Cavs and you guys couldn't stop complaining about Fred dominating the ball and not even looking for Scottie.

A player should only be ignored on offense when the PG thinks that player can't even be trusted to touch the ball.

Is the finger worse than we think? Or are there ego problems in Toronto? If Scottie is what you guys keep telling us it has to be something like that.

I keep trying to convince Cavs fans that we don't want our PGs to try to dominate unless they're on a roll or there's no other option left. The Cavs have been doing a good job sharing the ball and finding the hot hand - hopefully they're noticing. Garland completely deferred to Rubio today and there was nothing wrong with that.

[NRSV]

Mobley will be a better scorer than Barnes if he isn’t already.

Truely ATG potential.

[10giz]

It's the same reason CLE isn't making Mobley take 20+ shots even though he could easily handle it.

He's doing so much in so many other areas while playing huge minutes as a 20 year old kid.

Young players can be broken mentally if mismanaged. There is no rush to get these guys to that level. You want to build their comfort, confidence and consistency slowly to make sure they're always inn high morale and always hungry for a little bit more.

lol, I read through the raptors game thread vs the Cavs and you guys couldn't stop complaining about Fred dominating the ball and not even looking for Scottie.

A player should only be ignored on offense when the PG thinks that player can't even be trusted to touch the ball.

Is the finger worse than we think? Or are there ego problems in Toronto? If Scottie is what you guys keep telling us it has to be something like that.

I keep trying to convince Cavs fans that we don't want our PGs to try to dominate unless they're on a roll or there's no other option left. The Cavs have been doing a good job sharing the ball and finding the hot hand - hopefully they're noticing. Garland completely deferred to Rubio today and there was nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't bother taking the majority opinion in there as anything. Many though Masai was a joke after taking Barnes. Most thought Norm for Trent was a pathetic loss of a trade. That board is hands down the most reactionary of all rand frankly, I question how many have even been watching more than 5-8 years.

This isn't a team where people do whatever they want. Nurse runs the ship. Players respect his gameplan. Nurse has Masai's respect which the players know. There is a culture and process.

Look no further than what Trent has done this year. The coaching staff challenged him. He responded. That's buying into your coaching staff.

No rookie gets that offensive role here. Takes time. What Barnes has already gotten/done is more than any rookie has in years in TO.

Gotta remember this isn't a young growing team. There is an established chain of command. Our top 3 players were a part of a title team here not 3 years ago. Whether we like it or not that's how its been. Now eventually those guys do get the opportunities. Norm great example.

But with entrenched performers and team leaders like Fred, Siakam and OG there. Nurse won't just had Barnes a key offensive role yet. Maybe later in the year, but not now.

Just my two cents. I try not to go against Nurse usually tbh. He's incredibly respected by some of the best players in the league. He's earned the benefit of the doubt IMO.

Just gotta be patient and let things breathe.