Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#461 » by Kilo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:13 pm

whitehops wrote:what a joke.

not condoning stewart's behaviour but he didn't even TOUCH a player on the opposing team yet he got suspended longer than the guy who actually punched him in the face. it's almost like the league is saying, "punching someone in the face isn't cool but getting mad about being punched in the face REALLY isn't cool".

for those that are familiar with letterkenny i wouldn't be surprised if lebron came down with the "native flu" for their rematch this coming sunday.


Davis and Westbrook as well? They were bowed up tough guys chirping away as well.
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Post#462 » by MrBigShot » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:14 pm

$950k fine on top of 2 games suspended pay is pretty brutal. After you factor in taxes that's over half his salary this season...he definitely overreacted but the league office went overboard. To put that into perspective, Donald Sterling got fined 2.5mil.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#463 » by NyKnicks1714 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:15 pm

Kilo wrote:Does Lebron get the one game if Stewart didn't react like he did? I bet not. So good on Stewart in a way - get a spotlight on what Lebron would have otherwise got away with because according to his very self serving teammates "he's not a dirty player".


Yes, he would have. And no other player would have received anything other than one game. Not everything has to fit into a narrative.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#464 » by Bruin » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:15 pm

We have people unhappy on both sides so I guess that makes it fair lol

(I personally think it should’ve been 1 game each)
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Post#465 » by eyeatoma » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:15 pm

This is messed up. So Lebron was a bitch and had to punch Stewart in the face. Stewart who has every right to retaliate goes crazy. I get it suspend him, but you literally took $950k from a man that makes less 3 million dollars. All because Lebron had to be a bitch. I've lost all respect for this man.

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Post#466 » by Cavsfansince84 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:16 pm

Antinomy wrote:So Lebron does something that happens on nearly every play, causing him to accidentally hit someone & he games suspended for 1 game….

Silly but whatever.

Isaiah Stewart nearly incites an all-out brawl & gets suspended for 2 games….

Here’s where I have a problem.

This is a classic case of the reaction causing everything to be blown out of proportion.

Did Joel Embiid get suspended for nearly knocking Lonzo Ball into Wisconsin?


Agree on your premise though with Embiid had he actually connected **** might have gotten crazy. We don't know because luckily for everyone there he missed. I get Stewart trying to go at LeBron at the start and acting like he did while getting pulled away but then he literally runs through his own asst coaches twice after that before getting dragged away and running into the tunnel like he was gonna go find LeBron. That was close to an Artest moment for him. A 4-5 game suspension actually does him good in the long run and he also needs to get some sort of counseling before it happens again. Because if he does this again he is gonna be done for the season and might get sent to the g league.
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Post#467 » by Michael Jackson » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:16 pm

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that's a fair resolution if people like it or not. It was LeBron's fault it started and he got his game, which is appropriate IMHO. Stewart could have walked away with no suspension but literally disrupted and potentially could have injured more people. LeBron was wrong... Stewart made the matter worse. You can't justify Stewart in saying his emotions just got away, or then you are saying LeBron's emotions getting away from him was also justified. Stewart needs the lesson though, if you are wronged you can't keep going back. Mind you this happened in Detroit too where the history makes the issue even bigger. Also if this was Obi Toppin and Wendel Carter Jr and it happened in Orlando likely none of us would know about it.
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Post#468 » by JJ_PR » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:17 pm

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DoctorX wrote:I have to laugh. The national media got what they wanted with the bs narrative they were pushing today which was "Even though Lebron punched Isaiah in the face you have to suspend Isaiah for more games because of his reaction." Such bs but comical at the same time.


If Stewart doesnt act like he did, neither gets suspended. I truly believe that


That's not even debatable.
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Post#469 » by GSWFan1994 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:18 pm

Papa Adam came to the rescue, as expected.
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Post#470 » by HMFFL » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:20 pm

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HMFFL wrote:$950k fine for Stewart

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Fake news lol

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Post#471 » by Wolfgang630 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:20 pm

The nba has no issues with the physicality and players going at each other. That’s why the sentencing’s are lighter. This is good that suspensions are short.
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Post#472 » by the_flash__ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:22 pm

Synciere wrote:If Stewart really wanted to fight the whole team I feel like they should've let him try. LOL

We need a celebrity boxing tournament. Like Charley Ward vs. Deron Williams but only with current players. Then we could go to teams. Nuggets vs Heat have already gotten the preliminaries out of the way. Lebron vs. Anybody would be box office too. Then we could have a certified class with guys like James Johnson who are known black belts or who train. I really feel like the NBA is missing out on an opportunity here.


Lebron refused to do the dunk contest because he didn't wanna get embarrassed. Doubt he'd participate in this.
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Post#473 » by PaulieWal » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:22 pm

eyeatoma wrote:This is messed up. So Lebron was a bitch and had to punch Stewart in the face. Stewart who has every right to retaliate goes crazy. I get it suspend him, but you literally took $950k from a man that makes less 3 million dollars. All because Lebron had to be a bitch. I've lost all respect for this man.

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This is how fake news and outrage spreads. Sure, lose respect for Bron on a non-existent $950K fine.
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Post#474 » by DoctorX » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:22 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:The nba has no issues with the physicality and players going at each other. That’s why the sentencing’s are lighter. This is good that suspensions are short.


They do have a problem judging by the fine they gave Isaiah which was nearly a million dollars. The fine is what's really going to stick out from this.
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Post#475 » by Wolfgang630 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:23 pm

DoctorX wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:The nba has no issues with the physicality and players going at each other. That’s why the sentencing’s are lighter. This is good that suspensions are short.


They do have a problem judging by the fine they gave Isaiah which was nearly a million dollars. The fine is what's really going to stick out from this.

The fine was fake news. It’s not real.
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Post#476 » by Michael Jackson » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:24 pm

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Kobeskillz wrote:I think Bron tried to aggressively move his arm cause he was frustrated that they were playing like Garbage and hit him in the face instead.

That dude had a right to be mad but also not to that display. He acted out of line knocking all his own coaches and stuff out of the way.


Yes, this is what I was thinking, Lakers had been losing up to that point, he got fed up, plus Stewart was playing unnecessarily extra physical on the boxout (plus Stewart was supposed to box out the other guy), and Stewart might have lost his balance and kind of leaned on LeBron, so it was his head closest to LeBron's shoulder instead of his arm, which got hit aggressively by LeBron. This is my interpretation: it was an accident, he meant to hit Stewart's arm but hit his head instead.

Throughout his long career, LeBron has shown he's not one to initiate or escalate fights, even when other players in his position would probably have in some highly provoking instances because he has a remarkable ability to not only keep his cool but also regain his cool when he lost it momentarily.

I think 18 years of clean sheet deserves some benefit of the doubt, but dudes just want to put LeBron in jail, smh...

I am a LeBron fan, but in a general basketball sense, not because he's my fave player, just like I'm a fan of Steph and Luka.



What he did to Embiid was pretty gross though. Yeah he doesn't get in fights but he absolutely has initiated things. He also has a history of being overly dramatic when he is hit. Not saying this makes him evil or anything like that but be honest and don't paint him as some choir boy. The chop to Stewart was not legal in basketball but it surely happens all the time. The reaction by Stewart was over the top no doubt, but lets not paint LeBron as never having an incident either. Punishment was fair. Everyone can move on and have a happy thanksgiving now.
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Post#477 » by iamworthy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:24 pm

Where are people getting this Stewart fine from? It seems terribly wrong
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Post#478 » by DoctorX » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:24 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:
DoctorX wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:The nba has no issues with the physicality and players going at each other. That’s why the sentencing’s are lighter. This is good that suspensions are short.


They do have a problem judging by the fine they gave Isaiah which was nearly a million dollars. The fine is what's really going to stick out from this.

The fine was fake news. It’s not real.


That's good to hear.
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Post#479 » by eyeatoma » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:25 pm

PaulieWal wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:This is messed up. So Lebron was a bitch and had to punch Stewart in the face. Stewart who has every right to retaliate goes crazy. I get it suspend him, but you literally took $950k from a man that makes less 3 million dollars. All because Lebron had to be a bitch. I've lost all respect for this man.

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This is how fake news and outrage spreads. Sure, lose respect for Bron on a non-existent $950K fine.
Looks like it was fake news, my apologies. Lebron still is a classless, dirty POS regardless.

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Post#480 » by iamworthy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:25 pm

Bobby marks tweet:

The suspension will cost LeBron James $284,004 and Isaiah Stewart $45,201 ($22,601 per game).

In addition, the Lakers will receive a $142,002 credit toward the luxury that that projects to save them $532,508.
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