James Harden Wants To Be Traded To Philadelphiia; Won’t Formally Demand Trade Due To Public Backlash

[Marvin Martian]

Kyrie is the one that should be shopped not Harden. Irving is the least impactful of the big 3, the most injury prone, and now is a part time player due to the NYC mandate.

I'm shocked that Harden hasn't given the ultimatum of it's Kyrie or me. Maybe he did and durant was like "nah".

kyrie is much younger and has shown no sign of decline even with missing games this yr. harden has more perceived trade value in morey's eye and nobody wants to pay 33yr old guy 50mil until 36.

Irving is 29. Not exactly "much younger" than Harden. And of course Kyrie is going to look fresher considering that he barely played this season. Not that he has made any impact anyway.

In comparison to Harden, Kyrie is more injury prone and a maniac who can leave the team at any moment. Also there is no indication that NYC will ever lift its vaccine mandate, so Kyrie may likely spend his entire Nets career as a part time player. Let's see them win a ring with that lol.

Investing in Kyrie long term is just a much bigger risk than Harden

[LloydFree]

Kyrie at this stage is better than Harden. And its not that close.

If he were not a crazy anti-vaxxer this would be obvious. Look at their numbers.

I know right? Darn near leading the league in assists and grabbing 8 rebounds per game from the guard position is so overrated...

Yeah with bad efficiency and the possibly the worst defense in the entire NBA.

If you want to look at raw numbers then how do you feel about Westbrook?

Try watching the damn games. He has not been good.

Try using something other than Defense when trying to make an argument for Kyrie Irving over anybody.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm shocked that Harden hasn't given the ultimatum of it's Kyrie or me. Maybe he did and durant was like "nah".

kyrie is much younger and has shown no sign of decline even with missing games this yr. harden has more perceived trade value in morey's eye and nobody wants to pay 33yr old guy 50mil until 36.

Irving is 29. Not exactly "much younger" than Harden. And of course Kyrie is going to look fresher considering that he barely played this season. Not that he has made any impact anyway.

In comparison to Harden, Kyrie is more injury prone and a maniac who can leave the team at any moment. Also there is no indication that NYC will ever lift its vaccine mandate, so Kyrie may likely spend his entire Nets career as a part time player. Let's see them win a ring with that lol.

Investing in Kyrie long term is just a much bigger risk than Harden

Harden is injury prone, declining out of shape, quitter. How is he any better than Kyrie?

He can't bother to take care of his body. And he has ruined every partnership hes ever had with any player.

Kyrie may be nuts. But at least you know he can stay in shape. Man didn't play for 6 months and came out dropping 30.

Harden's game also relies on foul hunting which the NBA is cutting out. And as he loses his conditioning he has less ways to score.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I know right? Darn near leading the league in assists and grabbing 8 rebounds per game from the guard position is so overrated...

Yeah with bad efficiency and the possibly the worst defense in the entire NBA.

If you want to look at raw numbers then how do you feel about Westbrook?

Try watching the damn games. He has not been good.

Try using something other than Defense when trying to make an argument for Kyrie Irving over anybody.

Kyrie is a far better defender than Harden. Its not close.

You don't watch basketball if you watch otherwise.

Watch clips of him guarding Middleton in last years playoffs.

Hes no great defender. But hes not close the the liability that Harden is.

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[John Murdoch]

Philly salary dump tobes , okc adds valuable pick and russ expires next yr, lakers take on tobias deal in hopes of a shake up

[Zetsword]

Philly salary dump tobes , okc adds valuable pick and russ expires next yr, lakers take on tobias deal in hopes of a shake up

I like it, those are some nice gymnastics.

[Marvin Martian]

kyrie is much younger and has shown no sign of decline even with missing games this yr. harden has more perceived trade value in morey's eye and nobody wants to pay 33yr old guy 50mil until 36.

Irving is 29. Not exactly "much younger" than Harden. And of course Kyrie is going to look fresher considering that he barely played this season. Not that he has made any impact anyway.

In comparison to Harden, Kyrie is more injury prone and a maniac who can leave the team at any moment. Also there is no indication that NYC will ever lift its vaccine mandate, so Kyrie may likely spend his entire Nets career as a part time player. Let's see them win a ring with that lol.

Investing in Kyrie long term is just a much bigger risk than Harden

Harden is injury prone, declining out of shape, quitter. How is he any better than Kyrie?

He can't bother to take care of his body. And he has ruined every partnership hes ever had with any player.

Kyrie may be nuts. But at least you know he takes basketball seriously. Man didn't play for 6 months and came out dropping 30.

Harden's game also relies on foul hunting which the NBA is cutting out. And as he loses his conditioning he has less ways to score.

Harden's TS% this season is at 57%
Kyrie's TS% this season is at 55%

Not to mention that Harden is one of the best playmakers in the league and Kyrie is mediocre at best.

Harden at his worst is still much better than Kyrie this season.

And how is Harden a quitter? He has been an iron man for most of his career. And played against the Bucks in the playoffs with one leg.

Kyrie on the other hand, has only played in 86 games over the past 3 years as a Net. This is the guy you want to build around over Harden?

[bebopdeluxe]

Morey is an idiot. Why do you need to help out of mess division rival team?

KD is injury prone
JH is aging and wants 230mln
KI can play only away games.
No defence
Harden not happy
Nash is good at anything

Hali and Barnes would be already with PHI uniforms if he would be smart

Embiid Drummond
Harris Barnes
Thybulle Barnes
Haliburton Curry
Maxey Haliburton

Maxey and Haliburton would be only 22y old next year.

It is possible that Haliburton wasn't available for the Sixers. A Simmons/Fox backcourt would be a bricklover's delight. I bet McNair might have even taken Harris as well...if Morey would take Fox. Sixers, of course, don't need Fox (they have Maxey) and they probably didn't want that 4/136 left on Fox's contract AFTER this season.

McNair realized that Fox wasn't tradable for anything he wanted, so he traded Haliburton for the best asset to go with Fox - which is Sabonis.

[SpreeS]

Morey is an idiot. Why do you need to help out of mess division rival team?

KD is injury prone
JH is aging and wants 230mln
KI can play only away games.
No defence
Harden not happy
Nash is good at anything

Hali and Barnes would be already with PHI uniforms if he would be smart

Embiid Drummond
Harris Barnes
Thybulle Barnes
Haliburton Curry
Maxey Haliburton

Maxey and Haliburton would be only 22y old next year.

It is possible that Haliburton wasn't available for the Sixers. A Simmons/Fox backcourt would be a bricklover's delight. I bet McNair might have even taken Harris as well...if Morey would take Fox. Sixers, of course, don't need Fox (they have Maxey) and they probably didn't want that 4/136 left on Fox's contract AFTER this season.

McNair realized that Fox wasn't tradable for anything he wanted, so he traded Haliburton for the best asset to go with Fox - which is Sabonis.

I dont see difference on total shooting, but defence would have improved

Sabonis/Barnes/Fox

Or

Simmons/Hield/Fox

[Mamba81p]

Philly salary dump tobes , okc adds valuable pick and russ expires next yr, lakers take on tobias deal in hopes of a shake up

No way OKC takes Westbrook. that puts them into luxury tax for sure. You might trade him to Sixers, but not sure if Jeannie Buss is ok with taking Harris' contract, or Lebron for that matter.

[bebopdeluxe]

Morey is an idiot. Why do you need to help out of mess division rival team?

KD is injury prone
JH is aging and wants 230mln
KI can play only away games.
No defence
Harden not happy
Nash is good at anything

Hali and Barnes would be already with PHI uniforms if he would be smart

Embiid Drummond
Harris Barnes
Thybulle Barnes
Haliburton Curry
Maxey Haliburton

Maxey and Haliburton would be only 22y old next year.

It is possible that Haliburton wasn't available for the Sixers. A Simmons/Fox backcourt would be a bricklover's delight. I bet McNair might have even taken Harris as well...if Morey would take Fox. Sixers, of course, don't need Fox (they have Maxey) and they probably didn't want that 4/136 left on Fox's contract AFTER this season.

McNair realized that Fox wasn't tradable for anything he wanted, so he traded Haliburton for the best asset to go with Fox - which is Sabonis.

I dont see difference on total shooting, but defence would have improved

Sabonis/Barnes/Fox

Or

Simmons/Hield/Fox

Sabonis is a legit 20/10 guy. They don't grow on trees. Fox is the unquestioned PG. If you have Simmons, you better have ALL THE SHOOTERS. I just think that Sabonis is a better fit - as well as being a damn good player.

[Marty McFly]

Kyrie is the one that should be shopped not Harden. Irving is the least impactful of the big 3, the most injury prone, and now is a part time player due to the NYC mandate.

I'm shocked that Harden hasn't given the ultimatum of it's Kyrie or me. Maybe he did and durant was like "nah".

kyrie is much younger and has shown no sign of decline even with missing games this yr. harden has more perceived trade value in morey's eye and nobody wants to pay 33yr old guy 50mil until 36.

Kyrie has averaged about 60 games a season his entire career.

[Pointgod]

As per wire tap.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265753/Nets-Prepared-To-Treat-James-Harden-Like-Raptors-Did-Kawhi-Leonard-During-Title-Season

Like I’ve been saying, Nets shouldn’t feel pressured here. If they don’t like the deal, let this season ride out and see what the Nets can do in the playoffs. The sign and trade will still be available in the offseason. Limited number of teams for Harden to walk to outright. Brooklyn should make a trade to get some immediate help for Harden and part time Kyrie. Then when KD comes back see if they can build chemistry heading into the playoffs.

"I think the mindset in Brooklyn right now is simply when they get those three players back: Durant, Harden, Kyrie Irving, treat the post-All-Star break as almost a six, seven week training camp until you get to the playoffs. Wherever they're seeded, they still believe that's a team that's going to have a tremendous chance to win a championship.

"I think Brooklyn is prepared for the idea that they'll just treat James Harden, if his plans are to leave, treat it like Toronto did Kawhi Leonard. And say 'this is probably a one shot deal. We want to win a championship. Our best chance is to do that.' Who knows what happens when Harden gets back with Kevin Durant. They start playing together again the way they had planned to from the beginning. They've been separated because of the injuries.

[SpreeS]

It is possible that Haliburton wasn't available for the Sixers. A Simmons/Fox backcourt would be a bricklover's delight. I bet McNair might have even taken Harris as well...if Morey would take Fox. Sixers, of course, don't need Fox (they have Maxey) and they probably didn't want that 4/136 left on Fox's contract AFTER this season.

McNair realized that Fox wasn't tradable for anything he wanted, so he traded Haliburton for the best asset to go with Fox - which is Sabonis.

I dont see difference on total shooting, but defence would have improved

Sabonis/Barnes/Fox

Or

Simmons/Hield/Fox

Sabonis is a legit 20/10 guy. They don't grow on trees. Fox is the unquestioned PG. If you have Simmons, you better have ALL THE SHOOTERS. I just think that Sabonis is a better fit - as well as being a damn good player.

Sabas is my native guy and I know exactly that his best position is C. Now SAC has

C Holmes/Len/Jones
PF Bagley/Metu/Barnes

Sabas at PF is bad for defence and spacing.

[Mr Loggins]

I'm shocked that Harden hasn't given the ultimatum of it's Kyrie or me. Maybe he did and durant was like "nah".

Kyrie at this stage is better than Harden. And its not that close.

If he were not a crazy anti-vaxxer this would be obvious. Look at their numbers.

I know right? Darn near leading the league in assists and grabbing 8 rebounds per game from the guard position is so overrated...

exactly. Same people think Russ is washed up, and he’s damn near averaging a triple double again this year

[garrick]

Does Simmons even want to play in Brooklyn?

The Philly fans are tough but NY fans are also known for not being shy about booing one of their own so if he stinks it up in NY he's going to end up in a similar situation.

[Sphynx]

Does Simmons even want to play in Brooklyn?

The Philly fans are tough but NY fans are also known for not being shy about booing one of their own so if he stinks it up in NY he's going to end up in a similar situation.

And in exactly how many games in his career has Simmons "stunk it up"? 3 or 4?

The myths created regarding him in this whole saga are such bull, you would think Embiid carried the worst basketball player in history.

He's a multi all-star, DPOY contender and a playmaking 6"10 PG that whatever his faults shooting, is ALWAYS close to the biggest defensive factor on the court every game.

I think it far more likely they will fkn love him, rather than hate him.

[the_process]

Given that Keith Pompey is an idiot… I choose to take this with a boulder of salt.

[JimmyPlopper]

Given that Keith Pompey is an idiot… I choose to take this with a boulder of salt.

Calling him an idiot gives him the benefit of the doubt. He is a malicious reporter.

[basketballRob]

Given that Keith Pompey is an idiot… I choose to take this with a boulder of salt.

I'm sure the Philadelphia players aren't happy seeing their names being added as throw-ins.

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