Wembanyama. I'm concerned

[Chokic]

Victor is way better as a rookie than lebron as a rookie. Playing nearly 10 min less than with much lower ball usage a less developed body/frame and a coach that's not even putting him in the best position to succeed and is still better than lebron across the board.

[Gusto1903]

Wemby is crazy good. People out here we're panicking and claiming chet was better, after Pop tried out stuff with Wemby.

[Iplaytolose]

Victor is way better as a rookie than lebron as a rookie. Playing nearly 10 min less than with much lower ball usage a less developed body/frame and a coach that's not even putting him in the best position to succeed and is still better than lebron across the board.

Comparing Wemby to LeBron is weird. They aren't even within the same player archetype. LeBron was a wing that came straight out of HS into the league 20 years ago during the dead ball era, which is one of the worst eras of basketball for offense. LeBron also has never had a coach like Pop in his career. Pop knows what he is doing.

[Chokic]

Victor is way better as a rookie than lebron as a rookie. Playing nearly 10 min less than with much lower ball usage a less developed body/frame and a coach that's not even putting him in the best position to succeed and is still better than lebron across the board.

Comparing Wemby to LeBron is weird. They aren't even within the same player archetype. LeBron was a wing that came straight out of HS into the league 20 years ago during the dead ball era, which is one of the worst eras of basketball for offense. LeBron also has never had a coach like Pop in his career. Pop knows what he is doing.

Wemby is a transcendent talent like LeBron not that hard to figure out. Also pop isn't exactly doing wemby any favors for his rookie development. He's making it even harder than it should be. Wemby is playing very well IN SPITE of pops not BC Of pops.

[HeartBreakKid]

Victor is way better as a rookie than lebron as a rookie. Playing nearly 10 min less than with much lower ball usage a less developed body/frame and a coach that's not even putting him in the best position to succeed and is still better than lebron across the board.

Comparing Wemby to LeBron is weird. They aren't even within the same player archetype. LeBron was a wing that came straight out of HS into the league 20 years ago during the dead ball era, which is one of the worst eras of basketball for offense. LeBron also has never had a coach like Pop in his career. Pop knows what he is doing.

Wemby is a transcendent talent like LeBron not that hard to figure out. Also pop isn't exactly doing wemby any favors for his rookie development. He's making it even harder than it should be. Wemby is playing very well IN SPITE of pops not BC Of pops.

Lebron was younger and started in the most defensive oriented era, Wemby is in the most offensive friendly era.

Wemby scores a bit more Per 36 (22 points to 19) but his efficiency is barely better despite playing in a league where the average TS is like 58%.

Wemby is not really doing any better as a scorer and he obviously not a playmaker. He my very well be better than James due to defense, but you should take into account that Lebron James was basically an all-nba player when he was Wemby's age.

[KG Leonard]

Comparing Wemby to LeBron is weird. They aren't even within the same player archetype. LeBron was a wing that came straight out of HS into the league 20 years ago during the dead ball era, which is one of the worst eras of basketball for offense. LeBron also has never had a coach like Pop in his career. Pop knows what he is doing.

Wemby is a transcendent talent like LeBron not that hard to figure out. Also pop isn't exactly doing wemby any favors for his rookie development. He's making it even harder than it should be. Wemby is playing very well IN SPITE of pops not BC Of pops.

Lebron was younger and started in the most defensive oriented era, Wemby is in the most offensive friendly era.

Wemby scores a bit more Per 36 (22 points to 19) but his efficiency is barely better despite playing in a league where the average TS is like 58%.

Wemby is not really doing any better as a scorer and he obviously not a playmaker. He my very well be better than James due to defense, but you should take into account that Lebron James was basically an all-nba player when he was Wemby's age.

Come on man that's historically not true at all! Lebron wasn't all nba at 19, he is months younger than wemby rookie season, he was inefficient in first two seasons. He was a "bad" as many rookies, specially compared to Lebron 2007-2008 when he was 22+. Sure he is scored alot in 2005-2006(his 3rd year!) but he was more of a scorer in a bad team compared to the real Lebron.


41.7 FG% 29%3pt % 2P% 43.8
eFG% 43.8 is Lebron rookie numbers and it jumped barely in his second 20 years old season. Even those numbers was eons away from All NBA level. Just because Lebron became great 3-4 years in doesn't means we should lie, erase his typically bad teenage star years.

[Homer38]

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Wemby is almost a year older than rookie LeBron, LBJ his age averaged 27-7-7.

That being said, Wembanyama is the best blocker in the NBA + one of the best rebounders (actually first or second in defensive rebound percentage) as a 19yo, he's obviously very fine.

LeBron was 19 as a rookie too

LeBron started his career at 18 years old(his age in the first 21 games) vs 19 for Wemby

[KembaWalker]

Can't take anyone that compares stats from 2003 to 2023 seriously

[KG Leonard]

Can't take anyone that compares stats from 2003 to 2023 seriously

Yeah we shouldn't compare eras advanced stats etc but you can make the comparison 18 year old or 19 year rookie needs patience, the licence to be bad,make mistakes and learn. That is the same truth 2003 or 2023.

We shouldn't rewrite history because 2003 was slower offence, different. Very few rookies even the best ever didn't led to helping alot to winning seasons.

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[Roger Murdock]

Wemby is a transcendent talent like LeBron not that hard to figure out. Also pop isn't exactly doing wemby any favors for his rookie development. He's making it even harder than it should be. Wemby is playing very well IN SPITE of pops not BC Of pops.

Lebron was younger and started in the most defensive oriented era, Wemby is in the most offensive friendly era.

Wemby scores a bit more Per 36 (22 points to 19) but his efficiency is barely better despite playing in a league where the average TS is like 58%.

Wemby is not really doing any better as a scorer and he obviously not a playmaker. He my very well be better than James due to defense, but you should take into account that Lebron James was basically an all-nba player when he was Wemby's age.

Come on man that's historically not true at all! Lebron wasn't all nba at 19, he is months younger than wemby rookie season, he was inefficient in first two seasons. He was a "bad" as many rookies, specially compared to Lebron 2007-2008 when he was 22+. Sure he is scored alot in 2005-2006(his 3rd year!) but he was more of a scorer in a bad team compared to the real Lebron.


41.7 FG% 29%3pt % 2P% 43.8
eFG% 43.8 is Lebron rookie numbers and it jumped barely in his second 20 years old season. Even those numbers was eons away from All NBA level. Just because Lebron became great 3-4 years in doesn't means we should lie, erase his typically bad teenage star years.

LeBron was second team all NBA his second season and finished 6th in MVP voting

He was first team all NBA his third season and second in MVP voting. He was also a major +TS% added player by his second season despite mostly creating his own offense

Wemby is on pace to have double the negative TS% add LeBron did as a rookie despite taking 80% of his field goals attempts assisted and playing center which historically is a position that’s +6% league average on TS% whereas SF is about average. Point guards, which was functionally LeBrons role, tend to have a TS% 4-5% worse than league average historically

[GrandTheftRondo]

Who cares about the comparisons to LeBron?

This dude is having a great rookie season and defensively especially it’s already obvious he’s something special.

He’s really starting to take off now regardless of his team being absolutely junk

[HeartBreakKid]

Wemby is a transcendent talent like LeBron not that hard to figure out. Also pop isn't exactly doing wemby any favors for his rookie development. He's making it even harder than it should be. Wemby is playing very well IN SPITE of pops not BC Of pops.

Lebron was younger and started in the most defensive oriented era, Wemby is in the most offensive friendly era.

Wemby scores a bit more Per 36 (22 points to 19) but his efficiency is barely better despite playing in a league where the average TS is like 58%.

Wemby is not really doing any better as a scorer and he obviously not a playmaker. He my very well be better than James due to defense, but you should take into account that Lebron James was basically an all-nba player when he was Wemby's age.

Come on man that's historically not true at all! Lebron wasn't all nba at 19, he is months younger than wemby rookie season, he was inefficient in first two seasons. He was a "bad" as many rookies, specially compared to Lebron 2007-2008 when he was 22+. Sure he is scored alot in 2005-2006(his 3rd year!) but he was more of a scorer in a bad team compared to the real Lebron.


41.7 FG% 29%3pt % 2P% 43.8
eFG% 43.8 is Lebron rookie numbers and it jumped barely in his second 20 years old season. Even those numbers was eons away from All NBA level. Just because Lebron became great 3-4 years in doesn't means we should lie, erase his typically bad teenage star years.

Lebron James was born in December and Wemby is born in January. They were not the same age at all as rookies. A year difference.

When Lebron James was Wemby's age he was in his 2nd season, and was not a scrub in the slightest. He a top 10-15 player in the league. I think you're a bit confused on the timeline.

Yes, James was inefficient as a rookie, though Wemby is nearly as inefficient and plays in a more efficient era.

I think the point people are trying to make is that you're comparing a straight out of HS rookie to a one and done rookie. Not quite the same.


Lebron James was a borderline top 5 player in 2006. You're comparing James to himself, in 2006 he was nowhere near as good as 08-10 but he was still objectively speaking a first team all nba caliber player. If James never got better than his 06 version he would still be a hall of famer very easily.

[DwayneSchintzus]

i think the point of showing his stats next to LeBron's is not "zomg he's better than lebron" but rather "look how lebron performed early on and what he went on to accomplish"

its not wemby's life goal to be a better 19 year old than lebron james

[Roger Murdock]

I don’t even understand the point of comparing them

LeBron is a point forward who’s biggest strengths are passing, ball handler, playmaking, positional versatility, and attacking the rim

Wemby is a 7’5” player whose biggest strength is defense and covers an absurd amount of ground.

Wemby will never be close to what LeBron was on offense and he should be a considerably better defensive player.

[JHFVF07]

I'm concerned too. A lanky teenager growing into his body, playing without a PG, in his first 20 games, with 19/10 while leading the league in blocks. What will he do 3/4 years from now?!

[BobbyPortisEyes]

Victor is way better as a rookie than lebron as a rookie. Playing nearly 10 min less than with much lower ball usage a less developed body/frame and a coach that's not even putting him in the best position to succeed and is still better than lebron across the board.

Comparing Wemby to LeBron is weird. They aren't even within the same player archetype.

It doesn't matter, Wemby's still been better. To be fair he's a year older than Lebron was.. but it's quite an accomplishment.

[Bum Adebayo]

Lebron was better in his rookie season, like no comparison at all, 20.9 PPG on an era where scoring was much more difficult and pace was much lower, 95 TS+, compared to 19.3 PPG on 91 TS+, this is scoring, then in terms of playmaking it's not even a contest, with Wembanyama having more turnovers than assists with less than 3 APG, compared to Lebron's almost 6 APG with fairly low TOV.
Stop overrating the kid now, he has not been that good, future is bright ok but in this season not that good.

[Bornstellar]

Lebron was better in his rookie season, like no comparison at all, 20.9 PPG on an era where scoring was much more difficult and pace was much lower, 95 TS+, compared to 19.3 PPG on 91 TS+, this is scoring, then in terms of playmaking it's not even a contest, with Wembanyama having more turnovers than assists with less than 3 APG, compared to Lebron's almost 6 APG with fairly low TOV.
Stop overrating the kid now, he has not been that good, future is bright ok but in this season not that good.

Good points but you're also forgetting rookie LeBron was playing like 40mpg whereas Wemby plays around 30. That's a pretty substantial difference in playing time for those numbers

[SNPA]

Lebron was better in his rookie season, like no comparison at all, 20.9 PPG on an era where scoring was much more difficult and pace was much lower, 95 TS+, compared to 19.3 PPG on 91 TS+, this is scoring, then in terms of playmaking it's not even a contest, with Wembanyama having more turnovers than assists with less than 3 APG, compared to Lebron's almost 6 APG with fairly low TOV.
Stop overrating the kid now, he has not been that good, future is bright ok but in this season not that good.

Scoring and passing. What about defense and rebounding? Its levels out a lot.

[Bum Adebayo]

Lebron was better in his rookie season, like no comparison at all, 20.9 PPG on an era where scoring was much more difficult and pace was much lower, 95 TS+, compared to 19.3 PPG on 91 TS+, this is scoring, then in terms of playmaking it's not even a contest, with Wembanyama having more turnovers than assists with less than 3 APG, compared to Lebron's almost 6 APG with fairly low TOV.
Stop overrating the kid now, he has not been that good, future is bright ok but in this season not that good.

Scoring and passing. What about defense and rebounding? Its levels out a lot.

First is more important than the second. Offense > defense. Besides, the gap between their offense was bigger than the gap in defense.