Do you consider Jordans Bulls a Super Team?

[NZB2323]

He averaged 20ppg after his acl tear

Which is irrelevant since he didn't fit the triangle as a scorer.

Relevant to the idea that he was a former shell of himself

1989 Harper: 19, 5, and 5, 57 TS%, 19.8 PER, 10.2 WS, .171 WS/48, 4.7 BPM, 4.8 VORP

1994 Harper: 20, 6, and 5, 49.6 TS%, 15.7 PER, 2.9 WS, .073 WS/48, 0.1 BPM, 1.5 VORP

I don’t know why people keep bringing up Harper scoring 20 ppg on 49.6 TS% on a team that led the league in pace.

Westbrook averaged 22, 12, and 12 before joining the 2022 Lakers. Does that mean he was in his prime?

Harper was a good defensive player who was valuable to the Bulls as a defender. Him scoring 20 ppg on 49.6 TS% for a team that led the year in pace before joining the Bulls didn’t provide them a lot of value, as he averaged 6.9 ppg on 48.3 TS% for the Bulls in 1995.

[NZB2323]

Has there ever been another team with 2 All-NBA 1st team selections and 3 All-defensive 1st team selections?

Seems like a pretty SUPER team to me.

The 1996 Bulls are the only team with 3 All-defensive 1st team selections.

The 1959 Celtics had 3 All-NBA 1st team selections, but there was no all-defensive team back then. The first all-defensive teams in 1969 had 3 Celtics.

[NbaAllDay]

Wrong. He was brought in to score, he just didn't fit the triangle offense as a scorer. Which is why he was averaging single digits in '95 even before MJ returned.

If he can't score in high numbers in that system, then he objectively is not a player who forms a superteam.

Not that they were a superteam anyway regardless of how much revisionist history you guys like engaging in.

1996 Bulls
-MVP of the year
-Coach of the year
-Scoring champ
-Rebounding champ
-2 All-NBA 1st team
-3 All-defensive 1st team
-6th man of the year
-2nd best 3-point shooter
-DPOY runner-up
-2 players in Top 5 in MVP voting

NoT a SuPeRtEaM!1

The rebound champ couldn't score 10 points in an empty gym. The sixth man was never an All-NBA player. Pippen played like trash after the All-Star break. Kerr was a spot up shooter who couldn't create his own shot or play defense. The coach only stayed relevant after Chicago because he had a Jordan clone available the whole time. Most overrated coach in history.

So yes, not a superteam.

Do you think the 2013 Miami Heat was a superteam?

[OdomFan]

I was being slightly facetious there. But the 91-93 team was absolutely a superteam.

- Unquestionably the best player in the league, top SG defender
- top 10 player in the league, top SF defender
- fringe all-star and multiple all-defensive player (Horace Grant)
- great depth with players like BJ, Paxson, Cartwright.

The biggest reason was Jordan-Scottie-Horace. We all know about their accolades, but the fact that they were all DPOY candidates and all-defensive players was huge. That's half the damn game, and they were phenomenal on that end.

That's a superteam, fam. 96-98 was so obviously a superteam that it doesn't need anymore justification.

Are role players that are put around a star(s) generally not supposed to be good at the game? because I'm not getting your logic here. BJ Armstrong was a good role player. capable of putting the ball in the basket and playing solid defense, but no where close to a consistent star. Same with Kukoc, Paxon, Cartwright, Kerr, Caffey, Williams, Longley, and Burrell to name a few from both eras.

Neither of those rosters were super by any stretch of the imagination.

1996 Bulls
-MVP of the year
-Coach of the year
-Scoring champ
-Rebounding champ
-2 All-NBA 1st team
-3 All-defensive 1st team
-6th man of the year
-2nd best 3-point shooter
-DPOY runner-up
-2 players in Top 5 in MVP voting

"nOt A sUpErTeAm"

Yea. they played well together and earned all of that. That still doesn't = super team. Some times a team can be very good but not super. Mind blowing stuff I know.

[michaelm]

Are role players that are put around a star(s) generally not supposed to be good at the game? because I'm not getting your logic here. BJ Armstrong was a good role player. capable of putting the ball in the basket and playing solid defense, but no where close to a consistent star. Same with Kukoc, Paxon, Cartwright, Kerr, Caffey, Williams, Longley, and Burrell to name a few from both eras.

Neither of those rosters were super by any stretch of the imagination.

1996 Bulls
-MVP of the year
-Coach of the year
-Scoring champ
-Rebounding champ
-2 All-NBA 1st team
-3 All-defensive 1st team
-6th man of the year
-2nd best 3-point shooter
-DPOY runner-up
-2 players in Top 5 in MVP voting

"nOt A sUpErTeAm"

Yea. they played well together and earned all of that.

Exactly.

[TheChaser]

Short answer, nah. Longer answer, absolutely not.