Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap...

[RookieStar]

NBA fans will have you thinking every first round pick is 2008 Derrick Rose. Like what the hell is Orlando gonna do with 4 dudes drafted in the low 20s?

This isn't the MJ Bobcats trading first rounders. You mf'ers really out here curving Desmond Bane so you can draft Dalton Knecht.

The problem happens when teams mortgage their future on bad gambles. Older players, bad fits, wild speculation on young players. Or when a team isn't in position to make an all in move. Bane is a known quantity and still in early prime. Magic did well.

Agree... i mean... i actually think being 26yr old is still young and just entering your prime... pluse he is locked up for 4yrs... and you know salary cap is increasog every year...

[knicksfan974]

Same as with the Bridges trade, people overreact over multiple 1sts. These will be most likely late firsts, meaning very low value. This is a great win-now trade by the Magic, they got the best player in the trade, who is perfect for today's NBA.

[knicksfan974]

No freaking way. FIVE total firsts for Bane? Is Orlando crazy?

They got the best player, and these firsts are all projected to be in the low 20s, making them not so valuable. Great trade for the Magic.

[picc]

Also... everyone on our board wanted to trade Cole a season ago and KCP this season...

Your whole GB fanbase cursed me out when I said KCP wouldn't be **** on the Magic. You already had players who did his job and better than he does, and I'm glad Orlando saw that and moved on because I like the team.

Really? A lot of us were just meh... we were hopeful for his reputed 3&D rep..m that sadly did not translate

Yeah. And even if it did translate, it doesn't really move the needle since it's just more of what you already had. You already had a KCP in Suggs, and Suggs is way better than him. So what's the point?

What you needed was point creation outside of Paolo and Franz. Now you got it.

[knicksfan974]

Has Orlando learned nothing from watching the Knicks? What TF is wrong with these franchises lol

The Knicks were two games away from the NBA Finals this year, and will be in the contention for years to come. You could say that the Bridges trade was pretty good for them. I would't cry over lost late firsts, as long as the team makes the trade that will put you strongly in the championship contention.

[RookieStar]

Your whole GB fanbase cursed me out when I said KCP wouldn't be **** on the Magic. You already had players who did his job and better than he does, and I'm glad Orlando saw that and moved on because I like the team.

Really? A lot of us were just meh... we were hopeful for his reputed 3&D rep..m that sadly did not translate

Yeah. And even if it did translate, it doesn't really move the needle since it's just more of what you already had. You already had a KCP in Suggs, and Suggs is way better than him. So what's the point?

What you needed was point creation outside of Paolo and Franz. Now you got it.

Actually last season and this season we were screaking for a legit 3pt threat. Which KCPs reputation was supposed to give us..

Magic curse is too strong. Legit shooters loses their touch when they arrive.

[knicksfan974]

Why, this makes NO sense and we gave up Picks for Desmond Bane. Why?

Because Bane is a perfect SG in todays NBA and will be the key player that will put the Magic in the championship contention. Costs a few future late first? Who cares.

[knicksfan974]

**** them picks

Strongly agree. When you have a great player available that fits your team and your championship aspirations, you do the trade and stop worrying about some future late first that it costs.

[knicksfan974]

The Magic are expecting to be deep in the playoff picture so those picks won't be great. If Banchero goes down however....

If you keep playing it safe you will never get anywhere in today's NBA. You must be ready to make bold moves when the opportunity is there, and that's exactly what the Magic did here.

[knicksfan974]

Memphis fans, do you think JJJ is next?

Wonder what he would cost. He's absolutely phenomenal in my eyes. Wish Raptors can get him.

Ditto for the Knicks. I wonder if a package of Towns and change would be of any interest to Memphis?

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Why, this makes NO sense and we gave up Picks for Desmond Bane. Why?

Because Bane is a perfect SG in todays NBA and will be the key player that will put the Magic in the championship contention. Costs a few future late first? Who cares.

My gripe is that we need a PG and I was hoping we’d use those assets for a starting first.

[RookieStar]

Just surprised we went away with our patented longboi-longarmed archetype of players... lol

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Desmond Bane was drafted as 30th pick. He’s talented yes, but Grizzlies just flipped him for 4 FRPs and a pick swap. Jesus. The Magic must’ve really wanted him to the point the Grizzlies could not say no.

Evaluating or judging a guy currently based on where he once ranked as an nba prospect over yonder times, is kinda weird to me.

[BAMAFREAK]

NBA fans will have you thinking every first round pick is 2008 Derrick Rose. Like what the hell is Orlando gonna do with 4 dudes drafted in the low 20s?

This isn't the MJ Bobcats trading first rounders. You mf'ers really out here curving Desmond Bane so you can draft Dalton Knecht.

The problem happens when teams mortgage their future on bad gambles. Older players, bad fits, wild speculation on young players. Or when a team isn't in position to make an all in move. Bane is a known quantity and still in early prime. Magic did well.

Agree... i mean... i actually think being 26yr old is still young and just entering your prime... pluse he is locked up for 4yrs... and you know salary cap is increasog every year...

On record as thinking this trade is good for both teams, while also acknowledging the Grizz got absolutely as much as possible for Des.
I love Des, but I will say this, he is only 26, BUT his body type tend to wear down quicker than more wiry or lean builds. It was tough watching him in the playoffs, he would come out and just wrapped up in everything just to keep him loose and playable. He avoids big injuries but seems to always have something nagging, it was his lower back late this season if I’m not mistaken

[Rainwater]

When a GM trades a sh#% load of picks like that it always feels like a 'F#%k the future" move in order to keep their job.

KCP was a bad contract and I think Cole Anthony makes like 10m a year for two more years. But that is a lot to pay when you don't have a starting PG on the team. Maybe they try to sign Tre Jones? He is a FA and an actual point guard.

I would judge this move depending on how they manage the starting PG slot. If they have the money and can get one in FA then it helps ease that price tag to bring in Bane and get off that KCP deal. I feel like Cole Anthony was fine as a 6th man and had handled his bench role well but I don't follow the Magic.

Cole nor KCP were good this year. Cole, in fact, was benched multiple times this season for poor play. The magic still need a 6th man, preferably a PG and another shooter to finish off the off season.

[RookieStar]

The problem happens when teams mortgage their future on bad gambles. Older players, bad fits, wild speculation on young players. Or when a team isn't in position to make an all in move. Bane is a known quantity and still in early prime. Magic did well.

Agree... i mean... i actually think being 26yr old is still young and just entering your prime... pluse he is locked up for 4yrs... and you know salary cap is increasog every year...

On record as thinking this trade is good for both teams, while also acknowledging the Grizz got absolutely as much as possible for Des.
I love Des, but I will say this, he is only 26, BUT his body type tend to wear down quicker than more wiry or lean builds. It was tough watching him in the playoffs, he would come out and just wrapped up in everything just to keep him loose and playable. He avoids big injuries but seems to always have something nagging, it was his lower back late this season if I’m not mistaken

I dunno... i think its how you take care of yourself like diet and such. I mean.. looking at him i was shocked that hr is just a 6'6 220lb dude..

[FrobeBryant]

That is what is called a Godfather offer

[JujitsuFlip]

Really? A lot of us were just meh... we were hopeful for his reputed 3&D rep..m that sadly did not translate

Yeah. And even if it did translate, it doesn't really move the needle since it's just more of what you already had. You already had a KCP in Suggs, and Suggs is way better than him. So what's the point?

What you needed was point creation outside of Paolo and Franz. Now you got it.

Actually last season and this season we were screaking for a legit 3pt threat. Which KCPs reputation was supposed to give us..

Magic curse is too strong. Legit shooters loses their touch when they arrive.

Wonder if it has anything to do with Mosley though.

23rd in 3pt attempts this season, dead last in %. 27th offensive rating and dead last in pace.

29th in 3pt attempts last season, 24th in %. 22nd offensive rating and 27th in pace.

27th in 3pt attempts 2 seasons ago, 24th in %. 26th offensive rating and 15th in pace.

11th in 3pt attempts his first season, 28th in %. 29th offensive rating and 10th in pace.

The guy is going against the pace and space offense of the modern NBA with detrimental results. Seems to be a philosophy and schematic issue.

[thelead]

Desmond Bane was drafted as 30th pick. He’s talented yes, but Grizzlies just flipped him for 4 FRPs and a pick swap. Jesus. The Magic must’ve really wanted him to the point the Grizzlies could not say no.

Evaluating or judging a guy currently based on where he once ranked as an nba prospect over yonder times, is kinda weird to me.

right? Jokic should be cheaper by that logic.

[RookieStar]

Yeah. And even if it did translate, it doesn't really move the needle since it's just more of what you already had. You already had a KCP in Suggs, and Suggs is way better than him. So what's the point?

What you needed was point creation outside of Paolo and Franz. Now you got it.

Actually last season and this season we were screaking for a legit 3pt threat. Which KCPs reputation was supposed to give us..

Magic curse is too strong. Legit shooters loses their touch when they arrive.

Wonder if it has anything to do with Mosley though.

23rd in 3pt attempts this season, dead last in %. 27th offensive rating and dead last in pace.

29th in 3pt attempts last season, 24th in %. 22nd offensive rating and 27th in pace.

27th in 3pt attempts 2 seasons ago, 24th in %. 26th offensive rating and 15th in pace.

11th in 3pt attempts his first season, 28th in %. 29th offensive rating and 10th in pace.

The guy is going against the pace and space offense of the modern NBA with detrimental results. Seems to be a philosophy and schematic issue.

Who knows... even when Mos wasnt the coach we noticed that 38% 3pt shooters suddenly become 30% 3pt shooters lol.

We thought it was because they are so tired from playing defense that their knees cannot follow through their shot