So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right?

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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#461 » by JB2 » Yesterday 12:33 am

Bucks have to thread that needle of getting a win now player who's young-ish (as there's no incentive to bottom out without their own picks going forward) but also getting some 1st round picks for more opportunities to draft their next young core.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out with Giannis' list, but IMO Houston offers arguably the more well rounded package -- if the above direction is where they want to go. Sengun, Eason, FVV + a couple of higher end picks (27 BK, 27 PHX and/or 29 DAL) . Not to mention, they could probably get FVV healthy next season and sell him off for another pick or some 2nds.

Houston immediately becomes a terrifying team but with all their picks going forward, they can quick re-group around Amen/Reed once KD and Giannis hang it up.
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#462 » by The Master » Yesterday 1:29 am

GiannisAnte34 wrote:Fox and Castle are mid assets IMO

I'd take Scottie over either of them and I'm not high on him either

Well, I'm not saying that Fox, Castle, and picks would be enough to get Giannis, just saying that Spurs are in position to strengthen their team without trading Harper, especially if they're on a shortlist of Giannis of his potential destinations. If this is not enough to get Giannis, that's fine, with Wemby and Harper, they're still in pretty great spot for years. If these 10-12 games of Harper are what his actual level right now is, this is at least an All-NBA player in the future, so the whole 'haha, why would anyone hesitate to trade Harper and other assets for Giannis' isn't that simple.
JB2 wrote:Will be interesting to see how it plays out with Giannis' list, but IMO Houston offers arguably the more well rounded package -- if the above direction is where they want to go. Sengun, Eason, FVV + a couple of higher end picks (27 BK, 27 PHX and/or 29 DAL) . Not to mention, they could probably get FVV healthy next season and sell him off for another pick or some 2nds.
If Rockets are willing to go 'nuclear' for Giannis, and Giannis is willing to re-sign here, they're favorites to get him. With Giannis and KD, it would be a pretty narrow title window, so I wouldn't be so sure that they will be.
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Post#463 » by Upperclass » Yesterday 1:37 am

Upperclass wrote:That was decided before the draft..

Harper
Castle
Barnes
C. Bryant
Picks
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Giannis
T. Bro
Aj Green


Mods.. When hes traded to the Spurs in 2 weeks can this be moved back to its own thread?
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#464 » by Mamba81p » Yesterday 1:55 am

JB2 wrote:Bucks have to thread that needle of getting a win now player who's young-ish (as there's no incentive to bottom out without their own picks going forward) but also getting some 1st round picks for more opportunities to draft their next young core.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out with Giannis' list, but IMO Houston offers arguably the more well rounded package -- if the above direction is where they want to go. Sengun, Eason, FVV + a couple of higher end picks (27 BK, 27 PHX and/or 29 DAL) . Not to mention, they could probably get FVV healthy next season and sell him off for another pick or some 2nds.

Houston immediately becomes a terrifying team but with all their picks going forward, they can quick re-group around Amen/Reed once KD and Giannis hang it up.


Giving up sengun would be dumb. That could be like a SGA trade
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#465 » by knicksfan974 » Yesterday 2:13 am

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JB2 wrote:Bucks have to thread that needle of getting a win now player who's young-ish (as there's no incentive to bottom out without their own picks going forward) but also getting some 1st round picks for more opportunities to draft their next young core.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out with Giannis' list, but IMO Houston offers arguably the more well rounded package -- if the above direction is where they want to go. Sengun, Eason, FVV + a couple of higher end picks (27 BK, 27 PHX and/or 29 DAL) . Not to mention, they could probably get FVV healthy next season and sell him off for another pick or some 2nds.

Houston immediately becomes a terrifying team but with all their picks going forward, they can quick re-group around Amen/Reed once KD and Giannis hang it up.


Giving up sengun would be dumb. That could be like a SGA trade


Yes I agree. The suggested Sengun, Eason, FVV + a couple of higher end picks (27 BK, 27 PHX and/or 29 DAL) for Giannis doesn't make sense for Houston. Considering Sengun is only 23 yo (Giannis is 31) and his numbers have been developing year-by-year fairly similarly to Jokic, even if Giannis is the better player right now, I'd just rather keep Sengun and other assets. Houston is in a good position, there is no pressure to make this kind of move.
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#466 » by Dr Aki » Yesterday 2:20 am

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So how does a random Chicago reporter get "the scoop"?

Me thinks he's just using the Lakers to get clicks
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Post#467 » by The Master » Yesterday 2:27 am

Dr Aki wrote:So how does a random Chicago reporter get "the scoop"?

Me thinks he's just using the Lakers to get clicks

This is what I call a lazy gossiping-journalism. Is it possible that Doncic talked to the Lakers FO about Giannis? Or Lakers made a preliminary inquiry about Giannis' situation? Sure. If so, does it matter? Not really, if Lakers are somehow in position to trade for Giannis, they'll just do it anyways, like any other team would. Is it likely? Not really.
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#469 » by knicksfan974 » Yesterday 5:13 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/283009/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Told-Teammate-Trade-To-Knicks-Was-Close-In-August

"Giannis Antetokounmpo told at least one Milwaukee Bucks teammate during the summer that he believed a trade to the New York Knicks was close to materializing, multiple sources said this week. The two-time MVP gave Milwaukee a preference to be traded to New York, and the teams held discussions in August."
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#470 » by doogie_hauser » Yesterday 5:51 am

Giannis traded to Knicks, in a complicated multi team deal that results in a pick for The Bucks that ends up winning the lottery

Thats how Silver rolls !!!



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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#471 » by NoStatsGuy » Yesterday 11:50 am

Ayt wrote:
NoStatsGuy wrote:
bullsaficianado wrote:
Milwaukee is not going to trade him to an East team. He's going West for sure. Depending on what the Spurs give up to get him OKC and Denver will be their biggest threats.


milwauke is gonna do what giannis tells them to do. Dont get it twisted


Why?


because thats how it works most of the time, when those mega stars want out
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#472 » by Lalouie » Yesterday 12:24 pm

giannis SHOULD stay

all he has to do is step back and look at the league. he cries about getting help??? - look at the clips, looks at the mavs looks at gsw. in fact look ate gsw WITH butler and look at miami WITHOUT HIM!! the modus now is volume scoring speed and depth

this has largely negated the star who mostly are old anyway. giannis otoh is in his prime, what the bucks need is NOT another star but speed up and get younger talent, and because this is parity there's more average to serviceable players coming out of college to build around giannis. there's also a lot of retreads who can become serviceable now. take a look. there are a lot of no names playing good ball. that's parity. teams who were cr@P 2 years ago, are now "good"

the bucks need TWO THINGS. a backup for giannis's oft injured @$$

,,,and fire doc, who was bad anyway and worse now in this current environment. doc plays to his talent. he was only good coaching great hof'ers, and the bucks WILL NOT get that level of talent. no one will. doc is worthless in today's basketball. to wit: miami has a great coach coaching a team without a bonafide superstar,,,,WHICH GIANNIS IS!
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#473 » by symbiotic » Yesterday 3:57 pm

Trading the Giannis haul for Mikal Bridges has set the Knicks back 12-15 years. Many predicted this would happen. I CANNOT BELIEVE anyone was happy when the Knicks traded for Mikal Bridges and only focused on the short term of "Yay the Knicks have Mikal Bridges!!". A lack of delayed gratification will kill a franchise, look at the Clippers in 2019, Knicks in 2004, Nets in 2013

Again, one extremely horrific decision will result in 3-20-many more problems down the road, just like anything else in life. Best to not invest any energy what happens in the NBA when they're too inept.
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Re: So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right? 

Post#474 » by Kiss of Death » Yesterday 4:09 pm

I think the Spurs are out.

At this point, it just comes down to what teams are willing to trade.

You cannot expect to get a top 5 NBA player by trading your 6,7 and 8th best players.

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