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The High Cyde wrote:This is why Philly is gonna have a bad time in the playoffs, they’re too reliant on refs and don’t have a fallback plan.
Gimli wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Gimli wrote:
It's simple. Doncic can't be stopped. No one has prevented Doncic from scoring the ball himself or getting his teammates open looks. He can't be stopped. It's not possible. You can't prevent both. You can either stop Doncic from getting the open looks or you can stop his teammates. You can't stop both. No 1 vs 1 defense will stop him, maybe Kawhi can, but Doncic will just call a screen and Kawhi can't fight over a screen. Maybe if he was younger. And the moment he gets a screen, it's either lob to powell, open three somewhere or Doncic finishes himself. It's unguardable play. And Doncic does it by himself.
Jokic needs other players for that. He needs guy circling around him, cutting to the basket and so on. Doncic only needs people to stand at the 3 point line. But he does need a solid screener, though he doesn't have to be really anything special. He did magic with Mike Tobey and the Olympics as well, and Toby is an average spanish league starting center.
And Doncic has never been stopped. Jokic was against the best possible defense against him, AD + Lebron + Howard. Jokic had very bad series against them. On the other hand, Doncic demolished the best possible defense against him. And Jokic lost without a fight against the Suns. Everyone excepcted the Mavs to lose 4-1 or 4-0, they almost won the series. Everyone also excepted the Suns to win what 4-1, 4-2, 4-0, well they lost 4-0.
Today Giannis had difficulty scoring at the rim. Did he pass the ball good enough out of double teams? No he didn't. He didn't create good enough opportunites for his teammates, Doncic did. It's either Doncic or his teammates, that wasn't the case for Giannis today.
And Embiid needs someone to feed him in the post, you need to have a proper PG for him, no one else needs that. And Embiid isn't on the same level as a playmaker as Joker and Doncic.
And if you bring defense into it, fine, Doncic isn't as good. But the Mavs still have very good defense with him and also Brunson on the floor. You've seen it today against the Bucks. Doncic can't be so bad at defense, if you can still have good team defense with him. And if you still keep bringing defense into it, how did this 2x DPOY help the Bucks tonight? They couldn't stop Doncic and the Mavs. Neither did the Clipps. What good is defense if you can't prevent the Mavs team from getting open looks? I'm not sure why I should be bother with how good Giannis is on defense, if he can't stop Doncic anyway, and Giannis today was stopped, mainly by DFS, Bullock and Powell... Like these are some all-nba defenders... Okay DFS is.
As for MVP, Doncic didn't have good enough stats at the start. I think a lot of people say if he had the current stats early, he would be the MVP. The same effect Doncic had on people when he played against the Clippers, I see pretty much everytime Doncic plays. Other people just don't, I don't know why. I guess if DFS misses a corner three, they're just like "ehh".... I see an open look generated by Doncic, that just happened to be missed. Perhaps they look at the points at the end of the game, at the %, at the TS% and are not impressed. All I see is, how many good looks did Doncic create. And I can't find this with any other player and no one so far has managed to stop this.
Watch Jokic play. He will wait until someone gets open. I mean he that does quite a lot of the time. Doncic doesn't wait for anyone. Doncic creates the open look, pretty much always. Jokic, on the other hand, doesn't play 1 vs 1 often enough, so he also can't create often enough and he also doesn't have gravity enough like Curry somehow. Thus Jokic isn't as good. Jokic needs someone else, Doncic doesn't.
Doncic is like Steve Nash and LBJ combined on offense, without the athleticism of LBJ, but the same strength. Put Doncic's body into Nash, you'll get the same result.
Maybe you right...but I would be willing to bet you any money amount of money that Luka won’t get more mvp votes than Giannis this year...Luka won’t get more mvp votes than Embiid, and Luka won’t come close to Jokic in mvp votes....so at best he is 4th....
Your opinions are cool but the 4th guy in the mvp race isn’t worth arguing about.
File your Luka love letters in the all nba first team section with Trae young, Booker, Curry, KD and all the other great players not named Jokic, Embiid, or Giannis- This year Luka hasn’t ascended to Mount Olympus with the MVPs...he is great but not on that level yet....
Eh, I don't really care about MVPs... It's almost an empty stat to me. We all know LBJ was clearly the best player from 2010+, and he didn't get the MVP each year, because MVP has its own "rules" who should get an award. I was mainly arguing that Doncic is the best in the nba right now (and has been for some time).
Well, let's hope the Mavs play the Nuggets then in the 1st round. I like such direct matchups...
PS: since you think the mavs will get to the finals as well... Let's just hope they don't have to play both GSW with Curry and the Suns. Imo Doncic gets tired, they can beat any of those two teams if they have some luck, but not both.
Arsenal wrote:The High Cyde wrote:This is why Philly is gonna have a bad time in the playoffs, they’re too reliant on refs and don’t have a fallback plan.
PHI is only "reliant" on the refs to call it when they are blatantly hacked all game by a team that can't defend straight up. That's what happened tonight.
Learn to defend without fouling.
Arsenal wrote:The High Cyde wrote:This is why Philly is gonna have a bad time in the playoffs, they’re too reliant on refs and don’t have a fallback plan.
PHI is only "reliant" on the refs to call it when they are blatantly hacked all game by a team that can't defend straight up. That's what happened tonight.
Learn to defend without fouling.
i think wrapping up the 1 seed was a double edged sword. they are in no position to start phoning in games to finish the season.The High Cyde wrote:Phoenix getting punked by a team with no facial hair, smh turrible
The High Cyde wrote:Phoenix getting punked by a team with no facial hair, smh turrible
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
Arsenal wrote:The High Cyde wrote:This is why Philly is gonna have a bad time in the playoffs, they’re too reliant on refs and don’t have a fallback plan.
PHI is only "reliant" on the refs to call it when they are blatantly hacked all game by a team that can't defend straight up. That's what happened tonight.
Learn to defend without fouling.
Richard Miller wrote:Arsenal wrote:The High Cyde wrote:This is why Philly is gonna have a bad time in the playoffs, they’re too reliant on refs and don’t have a fallback plan.
PHI is only "reliant" on the refs to call it when they are blatantly hacked all game by a team that can't defend straight up. That's what happened tonight.
Learn to defend without fouling.
The only team in the league that gets hacked. Amazing
The High Cyde wrote:This is why Philly is gonna have a bad time in the playoffs, they’re too reliant on refs and don’t have a fallback plan.
spanishninja wrote:i think wrapping up the 1 seed was a double edged sword. they are in no position to start phoning in games to finish the season.The High Cyde wrote:Phoenix getting punked by a team with no facial hair, smh turrible
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i disagree. you wanto dominate the league all the way to the end of the regular season, so teams dont think they have a chance against you. you think anybody is scared of the Sums now, based on Friday and today?The High Cyde wrote:spanishninja wrote:i think wrapping up the 1 seed was a double edged sword. they are in no position to start phoning in games to finish the season.The High Cyde wrote:Phoenix getting punked by a team with no facial hair, smh turrible
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Meh, it don't matter, just need everyone healthy in time for the postseason. These are exhibition games at this point for them, no biggie.
bebopdeluxe wrote:The High Cyde wrote:This is why Philly is gonna have a bad time in the playoffs, they’re too reliant on refs and don’t have a fallback plan.
Embiid with 44 points, 17 rebounds, 3 assists and 5 blocks.
Harden with a 21-point triple-double.
I think if we get games like this in the playoffs, we might be OK.
blind prophet wrote:Spud2nique wrote:LETS GO KINNNGS!!!! Hit the Warriors with something. You guys got nothing to lose, close out hard and give very little room on the landing space of Klay.
LETS GO!!!
We always win meaningless games at the end of the year to worsen our draft potential.
spanishninja wrote:i disagree. you wanto dominate the league all the way to the end of the regular season, so teams dont think they have a chance against you. you think anybody is scared of the Sums now, based on Friday and today?The High Cyde wrote:spanishninja wrote:i think wrapping up the 1 seed was a double edged sword. they are in no position to start phoning in games to finish the season.
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Meh, it don't matter, just need everyone healthy in time for the postseason. These are exhibition games at this point for them, no biggie.
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getting Cam back into the rhythm works best if he is playing in his intended role. you dont have him start in his second game back while being expected to shoulder a larger role than usual.Mr Puddles wrote:spanishninja wrote:i disagree. you wanto dominate the league all the way to the end of the regular season, so teams dont think they have a chance against you. you think anybody is scared of the Sums now, based on Friday and today?The High Cyde wrote:Meh, it don't matter, just need everyone healthy in time for the postseason. These are exhibition games at this point for them, no biggie.
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It's not realistic to expect these guys to come out and compete when they have nothing to play for anymore. They're treating this like summer league. I don't buy into the whole "scaring the other team" notion. All I'm looking for in the remaining games of the season is 1. no injuries, 2. get Cam Johnson some playing time now that he's back from injury, and get him back into a rhythm in time for the playoffs.