OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years

[Wonka]

Personal responsibility and accountability are still things in this day and age, right? Seems like a lot of people here would be those “blame Mom and Dad for every mistake I’ve made” types. She smuggled drugs into one of the worst countries to do that in. It’s not about her being black, gay or a woman. It’s about her making a very stupid choice and learning a very real lesson due to the current political landscapes in Russia.

Don’t worry, we’ll end up trading a murderous arms dealer for her and all of you bleeding hearts can be satisfied.

[ReddoverKobe]

I literally dislike most things about Brittney. Like... she exemplifies the mannerisms and personality of most dudes I wouldn't even kick it at the bar with.

She's an idiot that deserves some sort of fine/punishment in Russia for breaking the law.

However, siding with Russia on this, which follows a right wing culture trend for the last 6 years, is about as un-American/undemocratic as you can get.

Please spare us your everyone who disagrees with me is a commie with mix of nonsense patriotic propaganda. Nobody cares a toss about being un American.
She would have gotten jail time for smuggling drugs on an airport in like half of countries in the world (probably in almost every country. Just few might have let her walk with massive fine). Or not because she is semi famous and different rules for such people I guess.. Penalty is too long in almost everyone's mind but a lot of people justified think smuggling drugs is one of rare things that would deserve light prison sentence.
Just because Russia is terrible country doesn't mean everyone should be fine with drug use.

YA! She should have drank a 5th of jack instead, that is way better then the hard drug that is weed!

[Heat3]

Personal responsibility and accountability are still things in this day and age, right? Seems like a lot of people here would be those “blame Mom and Dad for every mistake I’ve made” types. She smuggled drugs into one of the worst countries to do that in. It’s not about her being black, gay or a woman. It’s about her making a very stupid choice and learning a very real lesson due to the current political landscapes in Russia.

Don’t worry, we’ll end up trading a murderous arms dealer for her and all of you bleeding hearts can be satisfied.

If it was your family member instead of her would you be in favor of trading an arms dealer? It’s a pretty callous attitude that you have.

[Wonka]

Personal responsibility and accountability are still things in this day and age, right? Seems like a lot of people here would be those “blame Mom and Dad for every mistake I’ve made” types. She smuggled drugs into one of the worst countries to do that in. It’s not about her being black, gay or a woman. It’s about her making a very stupid choice and learning a very real lesson due to the current political landscapes in Russia.

Don’t worry, we’ll end up trading a murderous arms dealer for her and all of you bleeding hearts can be satisfied.

If it was your family member instead of her would you be in favor of trading an arms dealer? It’s a pretty callous attitude that you have.

What’s more callous is acting like the freedom of a basketball player who smuggled drugs is more important to society than keeping a murderous arms dealer in prison. Anything to make you feel like you’re “a good person” though, yeah? **** outta here with that. She can stay for the full 9 years if it keeps Viktor Bout behind bars.

EDIT: And for the record, no one in MY family would be dumb enough to smuggle an illegal substance into Russia

[tbhawksfan1]

Patriotism is exactly like religious fundamentalism. What is America? America is everything and everyone in America. All that they do and all that they are is America. Patriotism is a descrimination against all of the people that don't spew narrow minded nationalistic propaganda.

A flag isn't and never will be more important than a person. An anthem is not more important than a person. A person has a right to like or dislike an anthem or a flag. If you disagree with this then you are being fascist

[DaPessimist]

I think a harsh sentence was expected. Russia essentially increases her trade value by issuing a large sentence.

[Ckay]

Get ready yall.

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[tbhawksfan1]

The war on drugs is a misnomer. It is and always has been a war on people

[Admiral-Kizaru]

So many mask off comments in this thread. If some of you draconians truly believe in American exceptionalism then America should be strong enough to take some criticism while also acting in the best interests of its citizens.

[G35]

well this thread has lifted the hood off of a few posters.

This is the problem. This is a basketball forum.

Why have we ever decided to bring politics into sports. Politics and sports should not mix.

That is what sports are for...a neutral arena to engage without politics affecting outcomes...but some people just can't resist.....

[Sedale Threatt]

So many mask off comments in this thread.

You're obviously new here. This is nothing.

[Wonka]

How exactly is releasing Viktor Bout, The Merchant of Death, a man who has been proven responsible for many deaths…and then trading that man for BRITTNEY GRINER in the best interest of anyone worldwide? American or not? You’re talking about releasing a murderer so that we can feel good about ourselves for “saving” BG? Think how many lives will be lost and how many families will be ruined when Viktor Bout gets back to his ways. All in the name of progress!

[G35]

Somewhat unrelated but related is the strange pro-Russian sentiment that is making it's way through the North American populace. Ironically through the 'freedom' convoy group that is coming.

As if none of them understand what Putin and this government is. What they've done and what they continue to do.

We are in a Christo fascist movement and a lot of people are not realizing it. You see it with the right cheering on Russia (as shown in this thread) and them hosting Hungarys PM

No one is cheering on Russia...people are pointing out that laws, fairness, justice is relative.

You can think that the US is oppressive and uncaring...until you go to a place like Russia.....

[mtron929]

Get ready yall.

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It seems like in general, there isnt much disagreement on the course of action here? Seems like there is a consensus that the us shouldnt trade bout for griner but one group of people are asking for more empathy towards griner where as the other group is saying that griner doesnt deserve much sympathy. So essentially everyone is against the trade but are bickering over how one should feel.

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[GamecockFan1024]

I seriously hope our government doesn't trade a Russian arms dealer for freaking Brittney Griner.

[cpower]

I would not go to Russia if i was her...is she not aware of what is happening around the world?

[Pharmcat]

Personal responsibility and accountability are still things in this day and age, right? Seems like a lot of people here would be those “blame Mom and Dad for every mistake I’ve made” types. She smuggled drugs into one of the worst countries to do that in. It’s not about her being black, gay or a woman. It’s about her making a very stupid choice and learning a very real lesson due to the current political landscapes in Russia.

Don’t worry, we’ll end up trading a murderous arms dealer for her and all of you bleeding hearts can be satisfied.

If it was your family member instead of her would you be in favor of trading an arms dealer? It’s a pretty callous attitude that you have.

What’s more callous is acting like the freedom of a basketball player who smuggled drugs is more important to society than keeping a murderous arms dealer in prison. Anything to make you feel like you’re “a good person” though, yeah? **** outta here with that. She can stay for the full 9 years if it keeps Viktor Bout behind bars.

EDIT: And for the record, no one in MY family would be dumb enough to smuggle an illegal substance into Russia

Arm dealers are dime a dozen , we sell weapons to Saudi Arabia so they can kill people in Yemen.

[Ruma85]

I seriously hope our government doesn't trade a Russian arms dealer for freaking Brittney Griner.

Let me understand this, is usa considering trading a russian arms dealer for Griner, afther that russia plans on realeasing him?

[The Rebel]

Patriotism is exactly like religious fundamentalism. What is America? America is everything and everyone in America. All that they do and all that they are is America. Patriotism is a descrimination against all of the people that don't spew narrow minded nationalistic propaganda.

A flag isn't and never will be more important than a person. An anthem is not more important than a person. A person has a right to like or dislike an anthem or a flag. If you disagree with this then you are being fascist

You guys really need to learn more words than just calling everybody fascists.

[Nate505]

How do you feel about Nazi Germany?

According to the Reich Citizenship Law from 1935, only persons of "German or kindred blood" were legal citizens.

What is your opinion on this law?

It's pretty bad and inhumane.

Hell, you don't have to go back that far. In some Middle Eastern countries the penalty for engaging in homosexual acts is death. Can't say that's a good law either and I would also say it's inhumane.

Huh? It's the Law, dude. NTA, their country their rules.

No need to criticise fascist dictatorships for being fascist dictatorships. Much easier to victim blame instead.

First...why does everyone use **** abbreviations and expect everyone to know them. "NTA." Does that mean "not the a-hole"? So, uh, were you trying to say "it's the law, dude. Not the a-hole, their country their rules? " Which doesn't even make much sense, but I'm guessing the point your getting across is that it's their country, their rules, so they aren't being inappropriate?

Sorry, I disagree. Actions don't become appropriate or inappropriate just because one person steps across the line of a border. They can become legal or illegal, but morality doesn't die at borders. Killing someone because they are gay or were caught having consensual sex with someone of their same sex is wrong, and it doesn't make it right just because it happens in a Saudi Arabian or Iranian border.

And I have no **** clue what your second point was, at least related to anything I was saying. Like none at all. If you were trying to make a point, for ****'s sake, please do better. This is a forum where written communication actually does matter.