Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic

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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#481 » by ryguy613 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:36 pm

this thread has 500 posts in like 12 hours. my lord is this topic charged. can everyone please just take a deep breath, no matter which side of the fence you're on?
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#482 » by Capn'O » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:38 pm

Laimbeer wrote:As with other incidents, Draymond tried to sell it as unintentional. It wasn't a punch or an open handed slap - more of a flailing forearm.

Nurkic played after the incident and had no visible injury. It wasn't a flat footed, full on shiver. He was falling (flopping) as he threw it. That doesn't clear Draymond, but it's a consideration.

I'm going to say it's 2-3 games with no history. For Draymond 5. Silver could surprise me with 7-10 but I'd be shocked if it was more than that.


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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#483 » by beeshma » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:42 pm

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BrianFitz wrote:People are letting their feelings cloud their judgement at the moment. No way Draymond doesn't get into the HOF

I think this would make an interesting question for a separate thread.

No doubt Draymond has the rings, and defensive accolades to be a candidate. But remember, the ultimate role of even having a Hall of Fame is to shine a positive light on the history of the game.

When people tell stories about Draymond in five, ten or twenty five years, are they going to talk about his rings, or are they going to talk about him suckerpunching other players? Does the NBA want his image lingering over the game?


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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#484 » by shmoosicle » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:45 pm

ryguy613 wrote:this thread has 500 posts in like 12 hours. my lord is this topic charged. can everyone please just take a deep breath, no matter which side of the fence you're on?

It's not that charged... just a lot of people sharing their opinion; relax.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#485 » by Roger Murdock » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:48 pm

Ultimately the Warriors need to suspend him for 10ish games

The league suspending him only furthers his victim complex “they are out to get me”

Warriors have enabled Draymond for over 10 years and it’s gotten out of control
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Post#486 » by ryguy613 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:49 pm

uh, ive just given this a cursory glance and ive already seen multiple people literally arguing about race. i would say that qualifies as charged.
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Post#487 » by NBA Sheady » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:58 pm

Shut him down for the rest of the season. Seriously. This clown doesn't respect anything.
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Post#488 » by NZB2323 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:02 pm

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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
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Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back and forth about this.

There's a difference of pointing out to use a different word to remove any perceived racially charged language Vs threatening to ban someone for insinuating it was racially charged.

Thug - "a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal." Green has assaulted multiple players in public. I think the core definition fits. I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO


Would you ever call a white person with blond hair a thug. No you wouldn’t. The word is used to describe black men that are acting out of control. That s what it means in a societal context. You can always go back to the dictionary but words change form and meaning over time. This one is meant to stereotype black people.


I'd call these guys thugs.

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Post#489 » by TRik » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:11 pm

ryguy613 wrote:this thread has 500 posts in like 12 hours. my lord is this topic charged. can everyone please just take a deep breath, no matter which side of the fence you're on?


Also that’s like a slow day on the Raptors board. Lol
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Post#490 » by maverick_41 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:29 pm

Someone will earn PhD studying Draymond Green syndrome and its development
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Post#491 » by DoctorX » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:34 pm

maverick_41 wrote:Someone will earn PhD studying Draymond Green syndrome and its development


He's the ultimate narcissist for sure.
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Post#492 » by Monix » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:38 pm

NZB2323 wrote:I'd call these guys thugs.

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sure you would :roll:
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Post#493 » by Big J » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:38 pm

Dirk wrote:
Big J wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Lol that you know what I think.

I didn’t say it was ok.

I said you don’t get to regulate my speech. You don’t.



You literally said race is irrelevant. Stop trying to back pedal. I ain’t got time for this kind of ****.


I am not sure if you are aware... it'd be shocking if you were that oblivious, but it appears that you're frequently involved in bad takes that lead to multiple exchanges no one really wants to read except for some occasional comedy moments.

So when you say "I ain't got time for this"... it doesn't align with your pattern of posting.

If you truly "don't got time for this", perhaps you should make better posts and not feed such terrible discussions?


Are you stalking my posts or something? You might be the one who needs therapy if you are doing that brother.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#494 » by thinktank » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:48 pm

NZB2323 wrote:
Miami_Lux wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:There's a difference of pointing out to use a different word to remove any perceived racially charged language Vs threatening to ban someone for insinuating it was racially charged.

Thug - "a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal." Green has assaulted multiple players in public. I think the core definition fits. I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO


Would you ever call a white person with blond hair a thug. No you wouldn’t. The word is used to describe black men that are acting out of control. That s what it means in a societal context. You can always go back to the dictionary but words change form and meaning over time. This one is meant to stereotype black people.


I'd call these guys thugs.

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So you’d use it to describe fictitious white criminals.

Got it.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#495 » by Decipher » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:48 pm

Miami_Lux wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:


Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back and forth about this.

There's a difference of pointing out to use a different word to remove any perceived racially charged language Vs threatening to ban someone for insinuating it was racially charged.

Thug - "a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal." Green has assaulted multiple players in public. I think the core definition fits. I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO


Would you ever call a white person with blond hair a thug. No you wouldn’t. The word is used to describe black men that are acting out of control. That s what it means in a societal context. You can always go back to the dictionary but words change form and meaning over time. This one is meant to stereotype black people.


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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#496 » by Dirk » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:50 pm

Big J wrote:
Dirk wrote:
Big J wrote:

You literally said race is irrelevant. Stop trying to back pedal. I ain’t got time for this kind of ****.


I am not sure if you are aware... it'd be shocking if you were that oblivious, but it appears that you're frequently involved in bad takes that lead to multiple exchanges no one really wants to read except for some occasional comedy moments.

So when you say "I ain't got time for this"... it doesn't align with your pattern of posting.

If you truly "don't got time for this", perhaps you should make better posts and not feed such terrible discussions?


Are you stalking my posts or something? You might be the one who needs therapy if you are doing that brother.


I don't need to stalk any posts. Reports generate instant notifications.

Are you genuinely oblivious to the reactions you generate or do you do it intentionally and this is all an act?
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#497 » by toodarkmark » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:55 pm

Dirk wrote:
Big J wrote:
Dirk wrote:
I am not sure if you are aware... it'd be shocking if you were that oblivious, but it appears that you're frequently involved in bad takes that lead to multiple exchanges no one really wants to read except for some occasional comedy moments.

So when you say "I ain't got time for this"... it doesn't align with your pattern of posting.

If you truly "don't got time for this", perhaps you should make better posts and not feed such terrible discussions?


Are you stalking my posts or something? You might be the one who needs therapy if you are doing that brother.


I don't need to stalk any posts. Reports generate instant notifications.

Are you genuinely oblivious to the reactions you generate or do you do it intentionally and this is all an act?


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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#498 » by thinktank » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:57 pm

Decipher wrote:
Miami_Lux wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:There's a difference of pointing out to use a different word to remove any perceived racially charged language Vs threatening to ban someone for insinuating it was racially charged.

Thug - "a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal." Green has assaulted multiple players in public. I think the core definition fits. I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO


Would you ever call a white person with blond hair a thug. No you wouldn’t. The word is used to describe black men that are acting out of control. That s what it means in a societal context. You can always go back to the dictionary but words change form and meaning over time. This one is meant to stereotype black people.


Common practice in Australia for my entire life


Not a common practice in the U.S., where the NBA is played, except from… certain people. ;)
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#499 » by wadenation305 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:05 pm

Monix wrote:
NZB2323 wrote:I'd call these guys thugs.

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sure you would :roll:


Don't have a bone to pick here, but if I'm not mistaken... quite literally in the movie they are referred to as thugs. People have called me a "Thug", I am not black, I am not white. A Thug is a Thug. Just because a word is used to refer to someone in a negative manner due to their actions doesn't make the word automatically "Racist because it made me feel bad". No one should want to be a thug, a person known for theft, lawlessness, and general mischieve. That goes to humans as a species. Low life's comes in many shapes, sizes, and colors.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#500 » by Big J » Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:06 pm

Dirk wrote:
Big J wrote:
Dirk wrote:
I am not sure if you are aware... it'd be shocking if you were that oblivious, but it appears that you're frequently involved in bad takes that lead to multiple exchanges no one really wants to read except for some occasional comedy moments.

So when you say "I ain't got time for this"... it doesn't align with your pattern of posting.

If you truly "don't got time for this", perhaps you should make better posts and not feed such terrible discussions?


Are you stalking my posts or something? You might be the one who needs therapy if you are doing that brother.


I don't need to stalk any posts. Reports generate instant notifications.

Are you genuinely oblivious to the reactions you generate or do you do it intentionally and this is all an act?


Reports? Why the hell would people report me, I'm not breaking any damn rules here. People are just pissed because I'm not a sheep who blindly agrees with the masses.

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