Old_Blue wrote:Chauncey should just pay Trump the $25 million or whatever the going rate is for a Presidential pardon and be done with it.
Or just have same access to autopen Biden family and others had. Either way, right?
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Old_Blue wrote:Chauncey should just pay Trump the $25 million or whatever the going rate is for a Presidential pardon and be done with it.
xdrta+ wrote:Pattycakes wrote:Curmudgeon wrote:Why is this such a massive scandal? It looks to me like a politically motivated attack by the right on "uppity" NBA players.
1. What Billups did had nothing to do with basketball.
2. Yes, players manipulating their own statistics to help others win prop bets is a scandal, but that has been going on for years. What did the NBA think was going to happen when it got in bed with the gambling industry?
Now the Ballmer thing is a huge scandal because it undermines the integrity of the entire collective bargaining structure and makes it almost impossible for an owner to win without cheating.
People want to play pretend that there is no political driven reasoning to it, and they’re too ignorant to realize that literally everything the fbi/feds etc do is politically and profit driven.
They were not receiving a cut most likely in which case it’s the only reason it’s such a “massive” national scandal. Anytime there’s character assassination involved I am highly skeptical.
There are some weird takes here. This was an investigation over a number of years under both Democratic and Republican administrations. What is the political motive? It turned up wire fraud and money laundering involving organized crime over eleven states. That makes it national, whether it's massive (a subjective media term) or not.
Wolveswin wrote:Old_Blue wrote:Chauncey should just pay Trump the $25 million or whatever the going rate is for a Presidential pardon and be done with it.
Or just have same access to autopen Biden family and others had. Either way, right?
Jester_ wrote:(Referring to the practice of butt caning) Yeah that's why we (Singapore) have beautiful streets and safe communities while y'all (San Francisco) live in bum-adled squalor and think it's freedom
TinmanZBoy wrote:Those dudes are guilty and trump is after the NBA… both things could be true at the same time… you think Trump would forget what Kerr, Pop, and warriors did to him easily?

Old_Blue wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Old_Blue wrote:Chauncey should just pay Trump the $25 million or whatever the going rate is for a Presidential pardon and be done with it.
Or just have same access to autopen Biden family and others had. Either way, right?
Biden isn't President. Only Trump can save Chauncey. I don't know how much Trump charges for a pardon. I'm sure it's a $hit ton of money (or crypto). But, it's got to be better than rotting in a prison cell.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/article/trump-pardons-convicted-binance-founder-changpeng-zhao-prompting-concerns-over-crypto-ties-223927480.html
BadMofoPimp wrote:TinmanZBoy wrote:Those dudes are guilty and trump is after the NBA… both things could be true at the same time… you think Trump would forget what Kerr, Pop, and warriors did to him easily?
FYI. The FBI investigation started under Biden.
Wolveswin wrote:Old_Blue wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Or just have same access to autopen Biden family and others had. Either way, right?
Biden isn't President. Only Trump can save Chauncey. I don't know how much Trump charges for a pardon. I'm sure it's a $hit ton of money (or crypto). But, it's got to be better than rotting in a prison cell.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/article/trump-pardons-convicted-binance-founder-changpeng-zhao-prompting-concerns-over-crypto-ties-223927480.html
Or just have the autopen like Biden admin used. Either way, right?
Jester_ wrote:(Referring to the practice of butt caning) Yeah that's why we (Singapore) have beautiful streets and safe communities while y'all (San Francisco) live in bum-adled squalor and think it's freedom
Wolveswin wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:TinmanZBoy wrote:Those dudes are guilty and trump is after the NBA… both things could be true at the same time… you think Trump would forget what Kerr, Pop, and warriors did to him easily?
FYI. The FBI investigation started under Biden.
Hey, don’t let facts stop a good self supported narrative.

BadMofoPimp wrote:Wolveswin wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:
FYI. The FBI investigation started under Biden.
Hey, don’t let facts stop a good self supported narrative.
I lost my dog today for an hour. I blame Trump.
Jester_ wrote:(Referring to the practice of butt caning) Yeah that's why we (Singapore) have beautiful streets and safe communities while y'all (San Francisco) live in bum-adled squalor and think it's freedom
Wolveswin wrote:Old_Blue wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Or just have same access to autopen Biden family and others had. Either way, right?
Biden isn't President. Only Trump can save Chauncey. I don't know how much Trump charges for a pardon. I'm sure it's a $hit ton of money (or crypto). But, it's got to be better than rotting in a prison cell.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/article/trump-pardons-convicted-binance-founder-changpeng-zhao-prompting-concerns-over-crypto-ties-223927480.html
Or just have the autopen like Biden admin used. Either way, right?
Curmudgeon wrote:Why is this such a massive scandal? It looks to me like a politically motivated attack by the right on "uppity" NBA players.
1. What Billups did had nothing to do with basketball.
2. Yes, players manipulating their own statistics to help others win prop bets is a scandal, but that has been going on for years. What did the NBA think was going to happen when it got in bed with the gambling industry?
Now the Ballmer thing is a huge scandal because it undermines the integrity of the entire collective bargaining structure and makes it almost impossible for an owner to win without cheating.
leolozon wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Old_Blue wrote:
Biden isn't President. Only Trump can save Chauncey. I don't know how much Trump charges for a pardon. I'm sure it's a $hit ton of money (or crypto). But, it's got to be better than rotting in a prison cell.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/article/trump-pardons-convicted-binance-founder-changpeng-zhao-prompting-concerns-over-crypto-ties-223927480.html
Or just have the autopen like Biden admin used. Either way, right?
Presidential pardons are out of control and shouldn’t even exist. There is so much conflict of interest it’s crazy.
BadMofoPimp wrote:TinmanZBoy wrote:Those dudes are guilty and trump is after the NBA… both things could be true at the same time… you think Trump would forget what Kerr, Pop, and warriors did to him easily?
FYI. The FBI investigation started under Biden.
Wolveswin wrote:leolozon wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Or just have the autopen like Biden admin used. Either way, right?
Presidential pardons are out of control and shouldn’t even exist. There is so much conflict of interest it’s crazy.
Maybe so, and that could be a worthy discussion. But first step is admitting it could be from either side of the political aisle. Right? Just maybe possible since we know of the autopen. Right?
Jester_ wrote:(Referring to the practice of butt caning) Yeah that's why we (Singapore) have beautiful streets and safe communities while y'all (San Francisco) live in bum-adled squalor and think it's freedom
Wolveswin wrote:leolozon wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Or just have the autopen like Biden admin used. Either way, right?
Presidential pardons are out of control and shouldn’t even exist. There is so much conflict of interest it’s crazy.
Maybe so, and that could be a worthy discussion. But first step is admitting it could be from either side of the political aisle. Right? Just maybe possible since we know of the autopen. Right?
Old_Blue wrote:Wolveswin wrote:leolozon wrote:
Presidential pardons are out of control and shouldn’t even exist. There is so much conflict of interest it’s crazy.
Maybe so, and that could be a worthy discussion. But first step is admitting it could be from either side of the political aisle. Right? Just maybe possible since we know of the autopen. Right?
It's actually not possible. Only the current President can issue a Presidential pardon. Chauncey's only hope is to pay Trump a bunch of money for a pardon. It's that or rot in prison.
Wolveswin wrote:Ummmm k.
Jester_ wrote:(Referring to the practice of butt caning) Yeah that's why we (Singapore) have beautiful streets and safe communities while y'all (San Francisco) live in bum-adled squalor and think it's freedom