2017 Isaiah Thomas is better than any version of Iverson.

[Duke4life831]

No i'm saying screw the people who feel like out-smarting themselves to the point of absurdity.

How is it absurd? Take the names out of it

Player A
31.1 ppg (on 25.5 FGA), 4.6 ast, 3.8 rbs, 3.3 TOs on 42/32/81 shooting numbers
24 PER, 51 TS%, 23 AST%, 35.9 USG%, 11.8 WS, .190 WS/48, 4.8 BPM, 5.1 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Player B
28.9 ppg (on 19.4 FGA), 5.9 ast, 2.7 rbs, 2.8 TOs on 46/37/90 shooting numbers
26 PER, 62 TS%, 32 AST%, 34.0 USG%, 12.6 WS, .235 WS/48, 5.5 BPM, 4.8 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Is it really absurd to compare these seasons?

[raptor jesus]

No i'm saying screw the people who feel like out-smarting themselves to the point of absurdity.

How is it absurd? Take the names out of it

Player A
31.1 ppg (on 25.5 FGA), 4.6 ast, 3.8 rbs, 3.3 TOs on 42/32/81 shooting numbers
24 PER, 51 TS%, 23 AST%, 35.9 USG%, 11.8 WS, .190 WS/48, 4.8 BPM, 5.1 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Player B
28.9 ppg (on 19.4 FGA), 5.9 ast, 2.7 rbs, 2.8 TOs on 46/37/90 shooting numbers
26 PER, 62 TS%, 32 AST%, 34.0 USG%, 12.6 WS, .235 WS/48, 5.5 BPM, 4.8 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Is it really absurd to compare these seasons?

Not absurd, but it's apples to oranges imo considering how different the game has become, and is officiated. AI in a smaller league with more space would be a sight to see.

[Mumbles]

No i'm saying screw the people who feel like out-smarting themselves to the point of absurdity.

How is it absurd? Take the names out of it

Player A
31.1 ppg (on 25.5 FGA), 4.6 ast, 3.8 rbs, 3.3 TOs on 42/32/81 shooting numbers
24 PER, 51 TS%, 23 AST%, 35.9 USG%, 11.8 WS, .190 WS/48, 4.8 BPM, 5.1 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Player B
28.9 ppg (on 19.4 FGA), 5.9 ast, 2.7 rbs, 2.8 TOs on 46/37/90 shooting numbers
26 PER, 62 TS%, 32 AST%, 34.0 USG%, 12.6 WS, .235 WS/48, 5.5 BPM, 4.8 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Is it really absurd to compare these seasons?

Lol, you can compare seasons in a vacuum all you want, but in reaction to the 53 point game (no matter what the OP says)..you post 2017 Thomas is better than any version of Iverson you know what that implies and you know what is going to occur. OP already admitted that he dislikes the amount of nostalgic love that Iverson gets, he really just wants to flat out say Thomas is just a better player but instead he's boxed into - new era all-star guy is more efficient scorer, better shooter in a league unlike the one Hall of Famer played in.

Then we argue all the crazy variables in between -- and then we see

First Ballot Hall of Famer
No 1. Pick of the 1996 Draft
NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
NBA Finals (1)
NBA Final Wins (1)
11× NBA All-Star (2000–2010)
2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA First Team (1999, 2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2000, 2002, 2003)
All-NBA Third Team (2006)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (1997)
4× NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)
3× NBA steals leader (2001–2003)
No. 3 retired by Philadelphia 76ers
Consensus first-team All-American (1996)
First-team All-Big East (1996)
2× Big East Defensive Player of the Year (1995, 1996)

....and it's like -- yeah Thomas is havin a hell of a season..but lol smh..

[OsuCavsfan103]

I actually don't think you are watching Thomas all that much if you think he just throws his body at people and flails his head. He's constantly trying to finish and really doesn't flop a lot. You are pretty wrong about his strength. His strength (along with his change in speed) is one of the reasons he is able to make up for his height.

I see it all the time. Pretty much any game I watch he gets to the line as a result of flailing. He ends up on the floor almost more than anyone in the league. Where is this strength you speak of? I have yet to see it. He is quick as hell, and since he is tiny he is hard to get in front of, but I do not see strength at all.

[XxIronChainzxX]

Thomas
28.9 pts
5.9 assist
2.7 rebound
.46 FG
.37 3pt

vs

Iverson
33 pts
7.4 assist
3.2 rebound
.45 fg
.32 3pt

Here are the stats proving this is a huge no. I will also say just watching basketball it's easy to say no as well.

Edit: Did I mention Iverson averaged like 4 times the amount of steals then Thomas?

Can you imagine a room full of all time greats getting this question/statement about Thomas & Iverson..and some kid pulls out an Ipad to bring up advanced stats lmaooo. What a disconnect. OP wants to uses stats show that IT's current offensive season is better than any of AIs, minimize anything defense and than nuance all the crazy variables involved...but at the end is still forced to admit that Allen Iverson is the better and more talented player (he didn't want to say it out right but he did)..That's taking an L. Thomas is more efficient, so what? Laughable indeed. And I like how people are absolutely dismissing Iverson's impact on defense because he wasn't a great defender and obviously would not or could not exert as much effort on that end due to his scoring load. The point is he still made an impact! For the most part he was a willing defender, especially young AI..if you put the ball on the floor he was getting in a stance and making you work. 2017 Thomas isn't even close to Georgetown era Iverson on defense..that alone makes this discussion laughable. Defense is the same reason why i'd take John Wall over Thomas. I think most people who play and watch a lot of basketball would agree. We can celebrate our good offensive talents without getting crazy.

I'm imagining all-time great Michael Jordan with the #1 pick in the NBA draft and thinking - that dude probably won't pick one a huge bust. Or that - again if all-time great Michael Jordan had the opportunity to build a team - it wouldn't be a team that ranges from lottery to playoff bubble. Cause an all-time great can't possibly fail to evaluate talent properly. Everyone knows being good at bball is the same thing as being great at spotting bball talent.

That's why every single coach and GM is a former 1st ballot hall of famer.

[Mumbles]

Thomas
28.9 pts
5.9 assist
2.7 rebound
.46 FG
.37 3pt

vs

Iverson
33 pts
7.4 assist
3.2 rebound
.45 fg
.32 3pt

Here are the stats proving this is a huge no. I will also say just watching basketball it's easy to say no as well.

Edit: Did I mention Iverson averaged like 4 times the amount of steals then Thomas?

Can you imagine a room full of all time greats getting this question/statement about Thomas & Iverson..and some kid pulls out an Ipad to bring up advanced stats lmaooo. What a disconnect. OP wants to uses stats show that IT's current offensive season is better than any of AIs, minimize anything defense and than nuance all the crazy variables involved...but at the end is still forced to admit that Allen Iverson is the better and more talented player (he didn't want to say it out right but he did)..That's taking an L. Thomas is more efficient, so what? Laughable indeed. And I like how people are absolutely dismissing Iverson's impact on defense because he wasn't a great defender and obviously would not or could not exert as much effort on that end due to his scoring load. The point is he still made an impact! For the most part he was a willing defender, especially young AI..if you put the ball on the floor he was getting in a stance and making you work. 2017 Thomas isn't even close to Georgetown era Iverson on defense..that alone makes this discussion laughable. Defense is the same reason why i'd take John Wall over Thomas. I think most people who play and watch a lot of basketball would agree. We can celebrate our good offensive talents without getting crazy.

I'm imagining all-time great Michael Jordan with the #1 pick in the NBA draft and thinking - that dude probably won't pick one a huge bust. Or that - again if all-time great Michael Jordan had the opportunity to build a team - it wouldn't be a team that ranges from lottery to playoff bubble. Cause an all-time great can't possibly fail to evaluate talent properly. Everyone knows being good at bball is the same thing as being great at spotting bball talent.

That's why every single coach and GM is a former 1st ballot hall of famer.

#Fail..All-time greats respect the grind, talent, heart and sustained levels of play from careers of Hall of Famers like Allen Iverson (They knew how unique AI was at the time he came in) I doubt one season from one of the many good scoring guards from this modern era would hold much weight. You decided to turn it into something else in an attempt to be clever, haha.

[RaptorRed]

No i'm saying screw the people who feel like out-smarting themselves to the point of absurdity.

How is it absurd? Take the names out of it

Player A
31.1 ppg (on 25.5 FGA), 4.6 ast, 3.8 rbs, 3.3 TOs on 42/32/81 shooting numbers
24 PER, 51 TS%, 23 AST%, 35.9 USG%, 11.8 WS, .190 WS/48, 4.8 BPM, 5.1 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Player B
28.9 ppg (on 19.4 FGA), 5.9 ast, 2.7 rbs, 2.8 TOs on 46/37/90 shooting numbers
26 PER, 62 TS%, 32 AST%, 34.0 USG%, 12.6 WS, .235 WS/48, 5.5 BPM, 4.8 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Is it really absurd to compare these seasons?

Lol, you can compare seasons in a vacuum all you want, but in reaction to the 53 point game (no matter what the OP says)..you post 2017 Thomas is better than any version of Iverson you know what that implies and you know what is going to occur. OP already admitted that he dislikes the amount of nostalgic love that Iverson gets, he really just wants to flat out say Thomas is just a better player but instead he's boxed into - new era all-star guy is more efficient scorer, better shooter in a league unlike the one Hall of Famer played in.

Then we argue all the crazy variables in between -- and then we see

First Ballot Hall of Famer
No 1. Pick of the 1996 Draft
NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
NBA Finals (1)
NBA Final Wins (1)
11× NBA All-Star (2000–2010)
2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA First Team (1999, 2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2000, 2002, 2003)
All-NBA Third Team (2006)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (1997)
4× NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)
3× NBA steals leader (2001–2003)
No. 3 retired by Philadelphia 76ers
Consensus first-team All-American (1996)
First-team All-Big East (1996)
2× Big East Defensive Player of the Year (1995, 1996)

....and it's like -- yeah Thomas is havin a hell of a season..but lol smh..

Haha exactly , OP is clearly trying to say Thomas was the better player but then when the arguments don't go his way he says 'I just mean this season ' Maybe he meant just the last game ? Im happy I made him admit Iverson is better

[OkcSinceSGA]

How is it absurd? Take the names out of it

Player A
31.1 ppg (on 25.5 FGA), 4.6 ast, 3.8 rbs, 3.3 TOs on 42/32/81 shooting numbers
24 PER, 51 TS%, 23 AST%, 35.9 USG%, 11.8 WS, .190 WS/48, 4.8 BPM, 5.1 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Player B
28.9 ppg (on 19.4 FGA), 5.9 ast, 2.7 rbs, 2.8 TOs on 46/37/90 shooting numbers
26 PER, 62 TS%, 32 AST%, 34.0 USG%, 12.6 WS, .235 WS/48, 5.5 BPM, 4.8 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Is it really absurd to compare these seasons?

Lol, you can compare seasons in a vacuum all you want, but in reaction to the 53 point game (no matter what the OP says)..you post 2017 Thomas is better than any version of Iverson you know what that implies and you know what is going to occur. OP already admitted that he dislikes the amount of nostalgic love that Iverson gets, he really just wants to flat out say Thomas is just a better player but instead he's boxed into - new era all-star guy is more efficient scorer, better shooter in a league unlike the one Hall of Famer played in.

Then we argue all the crazy variables in between -- and then we see

First Ballot Hall of Famer
No 1. Pick of the 1996 Draft
NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
NBA Finals (1)
NBA Final Wins (1)
11× NBA All-Star (2000–2010)
2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA First Team (1999, 2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2000, 2002, 2003)
All-NBA Third Team (2006)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (1997)
4× NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)
3× NBA steals leader (2001–2003)
No. 3 retired by Philadelphia 76ers
Consensus first-team All-American (1996)
First-team All-Big East (1996)
2× Big East Defensive Player of the Year (1995, 1996)

....and it's like -- yeah Thomas is havin a hell of a season..but lol smh..

Haha exactly , OP is clearly trying to say Thomas was the better player but then when the arguments don't go his way he says 'I just mean this season ' Maybe he meant just the last game ? Im happy I made him admit Iverson is better

I never said that. Read the thread title. Read the posts. Arguments have gone my way. The logical posters (including many moderators) have at the very least given credence to the point I was making. All the homers like yourself who have added nothing more than feelings to this discussion have had zero impact on anything.

Also I said multiple times 2017 Isaiah is better than an form of Iverson. Doesn't mean in terms of all time, legacy etc he's better. It takes way more than one season to say he's generally better period. He had a better 2017 season than Iverson has had.

[OkcSinceSGA]

No i'm saying screw the people who feel like out-smarting themselves to the point of absurdity.

How is it absurd? Take the names out of it

Player A
31.1 ppg (on 25.5 FGA), 4.6 ast, 3.8 rbs, 3.3 TOs on 42/32/81 shooting numbers
24 PER, 51 TS%, 23 AST%, 35.9 USG%, 11.8 WS, .190 WS/48, 4.8 BPM, 5.1 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Player B
28.9 ppg (on 19.4 FGA), 5.9 ast, 2.7 rbs, 2.8 TOs on 46/37/90 shooting numbers
26 PER, 62 TS%, 32 AST%, 34.0 USG%, 12.6 WS, .235 WS/48, 5.5 BPM, 4.8 VORP
Lead team to the #1 seed in his conference

Is it really absurd to compare these seasons?

Lol, you can compare seasons in a vacuum all you want, but in reaction to the 53 point game (no matter what the OP says)..you post 2017 Thomas is better than any version of Iverson you know what that implies and you know what is going to occur. OP already admitted that he dislikes the amount of nostalgic love that Iverson gets, he really just wants to flat out say Thomas is just a better player but instead he's boxed into - new era all-star guy is more efficient scorer, better shooter in a league unlike the one Hall of Famer played in.

Then we argue all the crazy variables in between -- and then we see

First Ballot Hall of Famer
No 1. Pick of the 1996 Draft
NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
NBA Finals (1)
NBA Final Wins (1)
11× NBA All-Star (2000–2010)
2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA First Team (1999, 2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2000, 2002, 2003)
All-NBA Third Team (2006)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (1997)
4× NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)
3× NBA steals leader (2001–2003)
No. 3 retired by Philadelphia 76ers
Consensus first-team All-American (1996)
First-team All-Big East (1996)
2× Big East Defensive Player of the Year (1995, 1996)

....and it's like -- yeah Thomas is havin a hell of a season..but lol smh..

Again Strawman and weak arguments. Nobody here once mentioned their careers or said Isaiah ranks higher all time. So a career achievement list is 100% irrelevant. There is no implication. I've stated explicitly like 9 times what EXACTLY I was saying. If I wanted to say Thomas is a flat out better player in general, that's exactly what I Would of said. There is a reason my title and posts are really specific. Somehow that didn't prevent people with faulty comprehension or poor mental acuity from getting sucked into fallacious reasoning and logic such as yourself.

[RaptorRed]

Lol, you can compare seasons in a vacuum all you want, but in reaction to the 53 point game (no matter what the OP says)..you post 2017 Thomas is better than any version of Iverson you know what that implies and you know what is going to occur. OP already admitted that he dislikes the amount of nostalgic love that Iverson gets, he really just wants to flat out say Thomas is just a better player but instead he's boxed into - new era all-star guy is more efficient scorer, better shooter in a league unlike the one Hall of Famer played in.

Then we argue all the crazy variables in between -- and then we see

First Ballot Hall of Famer
No 1. Pick of the 1996 Draft
NBA Most Valuable Player (2001)
NBA Finals (1)
NBA Final Wins (1)
11× NBA All-Star (2000–2010)
2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA First Team (1999, 2001, 2005)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2000, 2002, 2003)
All-NBA Third Team (2006)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1997)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (1997)
4× NBA scoring champion (1999, 2001, 2002, 2005)
3× NBA steals leader (2001–2003)
No. 3 retired by Philadelphia 76ers
Consensus first-team All-American (1996)
First-team All-Big East (1996)
2× Big East Defensive Player of the Year (1995, 1996)

....and it's like -- yeah Thomas is havin a hell of a season..but lol smh..

Haha exactly , OP is clearly trying to say Thomas was the better player but then when the arguments don't go his way he says 'I just mean this season ' Maybe he meant just the last game ? Im happy I made him admit Iverson is better

I never said that. Read the thread title. Read the posts. Arguments have gone my way. The logical posters (including many moderators) have at the very least given credence to the point I was making. All the homers like yourself who have added nothing more than feelings to this discussion have had zero impact on anything.

Also I said multiple times 2017 Isaiah is better than an form of Iverson. Doesn't mean in terms of all time, legacy etc he's better. It takes way more than one season to say he's generally better period. He had a better 2017 season than Iverson has had.

stop saying bullsh*t, you either think he's better or you don't . If you actually believe he is not the better player than why would you make this thread ? Why compare him to iverson ? you could have picked any player ... In fact you didnt even need to compare him to ANYBODY , you could have just explained he is having a great year and asked why he is not getting more support from fans but instead you chose to compare him to Iverson to show that he is better ( for a certain period of time ) why stop there ? im sure Thomas has had some 4th quarters Kobe never had .. but you know im not saying he's better though . And there have been countless arguments not just 'feelings' about how the game was clearly different back then and if Iverson played in this era Thomas wouldn't have any seasons that are even close to Iverson's. But you chose to ignore this and continue with your agenda against Iverson

[Pennebaker]

Anyone who disagrees can fight me with actual data and evidence. I'm addressing this because I see people constantly pissing on IT while Iverson is on some nostalgic pedestal and it annoys me. Both were mediocre defenders who got steals in the passing lanes but not much else (although Iverson was better defensively). Isaiah's efficiency on offense more than makes up for PG defense.

"But defense!" People need to realize PG defense was never a huge thing. Sure, big PG's like Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Dennis Johnson who also guarded 2s and 3s. But most other hall of fame PG's didn't play a lick of defense. Stop being hypocritical.

Call me when Isaiah Thomas leads the league in scoring in 4 seasons.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas wins MVP.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas leads the Boston Celtics to the NBA Finals.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas takes a game off a legendary team like the 2001 Los Angeles Lakers, who were undefeated in the 2001 playoffs until Allen Iverson stepped over Tyron Lue in Game 1 of the 2001 NBA Finals on his way to 48 points. (and in a series with Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal, it was Allen Iverson who led it in scoring).

Look, I'm from the Seattle area - a big Huskies fan - so I'm an eternal supporter of Thomas, but to say that he's better today than a legend like Allen Iverson? That's just ridiculous.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Anyone who disagrees can fight me with actual data and evidence. I'm addressing this because I see people constantly pissing on IT while Iverson is on some nostalgic pedestal and it annoys me. Both were mediocre defenders who got steals in the passing lanes but not much else (although Iverson was better defensively). Isaiah's efficiency on offense more than makes up for PG defense.

"But defense!" People need to realize PG defense was never a huge thing. Sure, big PG's like Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Dennis Johnson who also guarded 2s and 3s. But most other hall of fame PG's didn't play a lick of defense. Stop being hypocritical.

Call me when Isaiah Thomas leads the league in scoring in 4 seasons.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas wins MVP.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas leads the Boston Celtics to the NBA Finals.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas takes a game off a legendary team like the 2001 Los Angeles Lakers, who were undefeated in the 2001 playoffs until Allen Iverson stepped over Tyron Lue in Game 1 of the 2001 NBA Finals on his way to 48 points. (and in a series with Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal, it was Allen Iverson who led it in scoring).

Look, I'm from the Seattle area - a big Huskies fan - so I'm an eternal supporter of Thomas, but to say that he's better today than a legend like Allen Iverson? That's just ridiculous.

He wasn't talking about careers. Did you even bother to read the OP?

[Pennebaker]

Anyone who disagrees can fight me with actual data and evidence. I'm addressing this because I see people constantly pissing on IT while Iverson is on some nostalgic pedestal and it annoys me. Both were mediocre defenders who got steals in the passing lanes but not much else (although Iverson was better defensively). Isaiah's efficiency on offense more than makes up for PG defense.

"But defense!" People need to realize PG defense was never a huge thing. Sure, big PG's like Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Dennis Johnson who also guarded 2s and 3s. But most other hall of fame PG's didn't play a lick of defense. Stop being hypocritical.

Call me when Isaiah Thomas leads the league in scoring in 4 seasons.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas wins MVP.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas leads the Boston Celtics to the NBA Finals.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas takes a game off a legendary team like the 2001 Los Angeles Lakers, who were undefeated in the 2001 playoffs until Allen Iverson stepped over Tyron Lue in Game 1 of the 2001 NBA Finals on his way to 48 points. (and in a series with Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal, it was Allen Iverson who led it in scoring).

Look, I'm from the Seattle area - a big Huskies fan - so I'm an eternal supporter of Thomas, but to say that he's better today than a legend like Allen Iverson? That's just ridiculous.

He wasn't talking about careers. Did you even bother to read the OP?

'any version of Iverson" = every year of Iverson's career.

Iverson's peak > Thomas' peak

In other words.

[jangles86]

John Wall has had a better playoffs then Thomas.

[Pr0nzingis]

Isaiah Thomas would average 10ppg playing in the same era Iverson played. I pee a little everytime i hear someone say "today's sophisticated defenses"

You gotta love this delusional threads.

[Dnt hate]

Haha exactly , OP is clearly trying to say Thomas was the better player but then when the arguments don't go his way he says 'I just mean this season ' Maybe he meant just the last game ? Im happy I made him admit Iverson is better

I never said that. Read the thread title. Read the posts. Arguments have gone my way. The logical posters (including many moderators) have at the very least given credence to the point I was making. All the homers like yourself who have added nothing more than feelings to this discussion have had zero impact on anything.

Also I said multiple times 2017 Isaiah is better than an form of Iverson. Doesn't mean in terms of all time, legacy etc he's better. It takes way more than one season to say he's generally better period. He had a better 2017 season than Iverson has had.

stop saying bullsh*t, you either think he's better or you don't . If you actually believe he is not the better player than why would you make this thread ? Why compare him to iverson ? you could have picked any player ... In fact you didnt even need to compare him to ANYBODY , you could have just explained he is having a great year and asked why he is not getting more support from fans but instead you chose to compare him to Iverson to show that he is better ( for a certain period of time ) why stop there ? im sure Thomas has had some 4th quarters Kobe never had .. but you know im not saying he's better though . And there have been countless arguments not just 'feelings' about how the game was clearly different back then and if Iverson played in this era Thomas wouldn't have any seasons that are even close to Iverson's. But you chose to ignore this and continue with your agenda against Iverson

Great point^, op does have some sort of agenda against iverson for whatever reason, probably hated his tattoos

[Dnt hate]

I should create a new thread iverson was best all time, taking into account teammates and time period he played, it's all opinion at the end of the day and iverson is hated on way too much on realgm, iverson fans should start trolling these trolls

[myronbolitar]

Isaiah Thomas would average 10ppg playing in the same era Iverson played. I pee a little everytime i hear someone say "today's sophisticated defenses"

You gotta love this delusional threads.

Wow.

[jonjames]

I grew up watching iverson when I was younger..that was my era watching basketball..AI was an absolute warrior and one of best small guards to ever play..that being said the original premise is comparing peaks we not talking about resumes/careers we talking about peaks. What IT has done this season is unbelievable. His numbers speak for themselves and if we look at things objectively he's better than AI ever was at least this season.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Call me when Isaiah Thomas leads the league in scoring in 4 seasons.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas wins MVP.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas leads the Boston Celtics to the NBA Finals.
Call me when Isaiah Thomas takes a game off a legendary team like the 2001 Los Angeles Lakers, who were undefeated in the 2001 playoffs until Allen Iverson stepped over Tyron Lue in Game 1 of the 2001 NBA Finals on his way to 48 points. (and in a series with Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal, it was Allen Iverson who led it in scoring).

Look, I'm from the Seattle area - a big Huskies fan - so I'm an eternal supporter of Thomas, but to say that he's better today than a legend like Allen Iverson? That's just ridiculous.

He wasn't talking about careers. Did you even bother to read the OP?

'any version of Iverson" = every year of Iverson's career.

Iverson's peak > Thomas' peak

In other words.

Reverse, but yes. Peak IT season>peak AI season.